adam bussey Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 what do you guys think if I use ABS plastic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david0512 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 You could probably do it but I'd check the relevant sections of the law first just to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Nutster Posted July 28, 2013 Supporters Share Posted July 28, 2013 Think it depends what you were planning to make, and if you were copying anyone's designs, Other than that I can't see any reason not to try it (cost permitting) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tariq Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 If you can buy the parts, you can make the parts. The only thing stopping you is cost and patents. Although since when has patents stopped us with copywrite issues. Our guns are jut unlicensed gun replicas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmusie Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Entirely possible as peeps have eluded to above. A fella in the states has managed to develop plans for 3D printers to produce an m4 lower receiver and magazine, and who knows he may have succeeded in developing the remaining items since i last saw. He did manage to get it firing on live rounds. If he can manage that then there shouldnt be anything to prevent it being possible for an airsoft rifle. /Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacMaster Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Cost you more to get the plastic then the cost of the part you'd be making, I think it's around £40 for a roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmusie Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Cost you more to get the plastic then the cost of the part you'd be making, I think it's around £40 for a roll Thats and the cost of the printing machine itself /Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacMaster Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Yeah lol I do a GCSE BTEC course at my local college which has a 3D printer, they can't make anything bigger than tiny clockwork kits. They are barely able to afford the plastic because of the generous funding the engineering department gets from engineering firms around Hampshire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam bussey Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share Posted July 28, 2013 i am thinking parts for my own use not sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacMaster Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 What I meant was that it'd be cheaper to buy the parts then to buy a 3D printer, rolls of plastic and a 3D CAD program (which can cost £££'s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam bussey Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share Posted July 28, 2013 my dad is a land surveyor and as part of his business we are going to start making architectural models using a makerbot as well as model railway kits that I'll sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacMaster Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Yeah, but what CAD package are you going to use for it? If you're making something from your own designs then you're screwed without something like AutoCAD, SolidWorks or TurboCAD. And those software packages are damn expensive and need a decent PC to run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobySnacks Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Autocad isn't amazing for 3D, Solid Works is popular. When I did my degree it was all about Rhino and CATIA. Used to have to have a complete dedicated network setup for CATIA! These packages cost thousands for the full licence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacMaster Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Solidworks is extremely popular, and very simple to learn as well. Don't deal with university level CAD at BTEC Level 2-3 so I can't say anything on that matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam bussey Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share Posted July 28, 2013 we have autocad already and my dad gets discounted software because he is CEO of the company (VAT back amongst other things) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacMaster Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 You'd probably be better off with SolidWorks, but fair do's. Either way it would be cheaper just to buy the parts you need, since you won't have to spend lotsa money on plastic to make a tiny wee part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam bussey Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share Posted July 28, 2013 no I am thinking ergo/long ris handguard for my G36 made out of ABS:) muhahahahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tariq Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Its a good thing i have full editions of AutoCAD, Solidworks and Catia :L CATIA FTW though. Prefer AutoCAD for 2D work, but 3D work Catia wins hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacMaster Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 no I am thinking ergo/long ris handguard for my G36 made out of ABS:) muhahahahaha! Sorry to rain on your parade, but that will cost you a LOT of money to make. It's about £22.99 for 1KG of grey 3D printer plastic. And you'd need quite a few spools to make the ergo handguard you have in mind. Using data from MakerGeeks.com, one spool of 1.75mm thick filament is about 3m long. Think that's a lot? For making multiple small parts it's enough for a fair few. However, as the G36 handguard needs to be thick and roughly the shape of a rounded trapezium, this would require a lot of plastic. a lot indeed. As for adding in RIS rail fitting threads, which need to be thick, you may be spending a lot of money to make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam bussey Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share Posted July 28, 2013 Sorry to rain on your parade, but that will cost you a LOT of money to make. It's about £22.99 for 1KG of grey 3D printer plastic. And you'd need quite a few spools to make the ergo handguard you have in mind. Using data from MakerGeeks.com, one spool of 1.75mm thick filament is about 3m long. Think that's a lot? For making multiple small parts it's enough for a fair few. However, as the G36 handguard needs to be thick and roughly the shape of a rounded trapezium, this would require a lot of plastic. a lot indeed. As for adding in RIS rail fitting threads, which need to be thick, you may be spending a lot of money to make it. the spools I have seen are 400m of filament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Ian_Gere Posted July 28, 2013 Supporters Share Posted July 28, 2013 I think it'd be great, since you'll have access to it anyway. You could make all sorts of things that aren't available but should be. Like a long barreled version of a Goblin single shottie with a grip and rail attachments to sling it under your G36 and mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PT247 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 gotta be worth giving it a go if you want to try it :-) custom parts, one offs and a unique weapon could be proper cool :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted July 29, 2013 Supporters Share Posted July 29, 2013 If the printer isn't yours, will the owner be OK with you tying up his machine for the length of time it'll take to print something like that? Plus there's also the resolution of the machine. Is it high enough to make a smooth(ish) finish or are you going to have to hand work it afterwards? Instead of the RIS you'd be better off making something that's hard to machine and therefore works out cheaper as a 3D print. Anything that can be injection moulded (like a handguard) will always work out expensive to print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam bussey Posted July 29, 2013 Author Share Posted July 29, 2013 If the printer isn't yours, will the owner be OK with you tying up his machine for the length of time it'll take to print something like that? Plus there's also the resolution of the machine. Is it high enough to make a smooth(ish) finish or are you going to have to hand work it afterwards? Instead of the RIS you'd be better off making something that's hard to machine and therefore works out cheaper as a 3D print. Anything that can be injection moulded (like a handguard) will always work out expensive to print. it called experimentation, so why not make stuff no one else makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacMaster Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Maybe when it'd be cheaper to injection mould it instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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