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Thanks everyone for the advice and guidance. I know the advice was to buy the TM gun but I ended up going with the WE, the weight and balance of the gun was just right and the supplying shop is only 10 mins away if it goes wrong, sorry and genuine thanks to everyone for their time in giving me guidance. Also picked up a couple of 30 round (extended) mags, to my eye the 40 round (extended) mags were just a bit much and standard 24 round were a bit normal. Managed to get a full mag and a full reload before running out of gas on both the standard and extended mags which I was quite happy with as I just took a small speed loader out in my pocket to double my ammo capacity. Tape is just there to help me recognise /recover it if it gets lost on a game day. Gun shot well on Sunday, 255fps on .28's which it shot straight and true. Me on the other hand needs more practice with a pistol before any level of accuracy can be determined. Enjoyed the GBB element so much I'm now wondering a if a GBB rifle should be in my future rather than a bolt action sniper but that's a question for another day.

Another great day at Invicta Woodlands on Sunday, hot and sticky but not a lot you can do about that on a warm day after a thunder storm. Being father's day it was fairly quiet with around 75-80 players, half the usual crowd. No snipers, at least 3 mini guns and a lot of new players ment it was going to be a different kind of day. For kit I took my upgraded MP5K which I used for most of the first game until I got to hot and dumped it and its mags in the safe zone and went pistol only. MP5 with a drum mag for the second game using it as a support weapon to help keep the other team pinned down. For the last game I went with my new Sig 226 pistol only which made for a fun hour. First game was capture and hold the flag, two hour game which felt about right and due to the smaller than usual number of players the game flowed quite well, there weren't enough players to hold all of the flags so with a good push you could take a flag with 3/4 players. This type of game can drag out with bigger teams as once a team are dug in you just can't move them. Dumped the MP5K, mags, belt etc etc towards the end as I was just to hot, took the Sig 226 and a couple of 30 round mags out and just ran at the other team which worked well as everyone was flagging by that point, chalked up 3 back to back frags as I ran around the other teams flank. Second game was recover the boxes to base, first game we were trying to stop the other team. Rules are you need two people to carry a box and you can't fire while carrying. I used the MP5 with a drum mag (mostly) on full auto to help keep the other team from advancing. Really enjoy this type of game as they are very fluid with the action moving around the map with the teams and the boxes so its very fast and fluid, one quick advance or a well placed defender can change the game in a second. Third game was the reverse with our team moving the boxes, decided to leave the AEG(s) in the safe zone as it was scorching by this point, it was getting late in the day so I choose to play carry and run. With just the Sig on my hip, a spare mag and one of the much younger rentals we grabbed a box and ran, and made it to the drop point before the other team got there to stop us. Towards the end of the game when it got more intense I ended up with a riot shield in one hand and the Sig in the other heading to the drop off point, 4 rentals carrying boxes and a few team members providing cover fire, was one of the most intense fire fights I've been in and I will have bruises for a week. A plot twist was each team had 3x traitors who were wearing your colours but actually playing for the other team and you had to flush them out as you played. Got shot in the back while advancing a couple of times and called traitor on a team mate who was actually just a bad shot, LOL. Really great day out, similar games to usual but with much smaller teams the tactics and game play were different. Liked the pistol, just need to learn to conserve the ammo and do some target practice. Bring on the next game!

Think it’s a Cyma thing, somewhere for the battery to go. On the L version (MP5K) you can put the battery in the top of the gun if you use a AK slim stick type. On the G version it usually goes under the hand guard but you need tools to remove it on this version, it’s also full of mlok holes so you would see the battery.

Impressive, new gun is £300, drum mag is £50, the poly mags are £9 each if you buy 5, rail is £9. I bought one of these used recently for £150 which I thought was a good price for a very good out of the box AEG. And it’s 4 years old and looks like crap, if you try and fail to take the two tone off at least respray it black over the top……

Thanks everyone for the feedback and information so far. It will be a fun secondary gun to go with my AEG for sure. There’s a bolt action sniper in my future later this year or maybe early next and I will add a TM or some sort of MK23 to that load out as a serious sneaky pistol. The shop had a universal plastic holster which it did fit in but it was very tight. They had the ‘genuine’ holster at their site shop which they will bring over for me to try as it should be a better fit. How thick is the plastic on pistol holsters? Could I soak it in hot water for 5 mins and stretch it a bit? Will take a look at the TM version, thank you for the suggestion. I try and support the local shop as they are very helpful and always happy to help when I get stuck.

Hello hive mind Currently play only with an AEG but fancy giving a pistol a go, mostly play woodland skirmish and the occasional indoor CQB. Realise a pistol won't have the range or accuracy of a 350fps AEG (or the BB capacity) but it looks it might be fun to use a pistol as a secondary toy, maybe more of a challenge than a point and shoot AEG? My main AEG is a MP5K with a MP5 as a back up so I have had 80's/90's special forces load out in my head while looking at pistols and I have come across the WE version of the Sig F226 MK25 which I am quite taken by. I like the white dots on the sights for easy aiming in the gloom of indoor CQB. I thought the sights on similar Glocks / Hi Cappas were a bit small and would be hard to use indoors and with fairly big hands I found the really flared magwells of some pistols ment they were more challenging to hold. The WE Sig it feels like a solid pistol in the hand, nothing showey about it, it just works, rail for a torch or laser, very special forces. I have watched the YouTube vids and read the reviews but are they any good? Any general comments on WE pistols before I take the plunge? Understand they are one of the better brands? I will be buying from my local shop (who don't have a website) but its the same as the one below. https://www.bespokeairsoft.co.uk/we-mk25-gas-blowback-pistol-black

Invicta Blacksite ask you to bring an empty mag to chrono which you fill with their .20's and speed loader, if under 350fps you can then use your own ammo up to .25. Think it's because most engagements are 1-2m away and it hurts a lot when you are under the limit and I can only imagine what it would be like if you were over. The woodlands site is more of a trust site where you can chrono with your own ammo but then engagements are 10-20m so a significantly lower risk of injury.

Invicta black site is really good fun, indoors, up close and personal, quite dark so you need to use the light to help with tactics, everyone is friendly, according to Google it's about an hour from Woking. It's not full auto as the engagement distance is usually 5-10m and semi is plenty. I use my MP5K with a Gate Astor for fast trigger response so can get a good number of BB's in the air. https://www.invictabattlefield.co.uk/cqb-site

Autobot electric speed loader as I’ve decided I prefer to use mid caps with the MP5 but find I get hand cramps in the afternoon when trying to reload in the 5 min pause between games (when I should be re hydrating/snacking).

The local indoor CQB site chrono with their .20 ammo which is great as typical max engagement distance is 2-5m so they need to be extra sure you aren’t running a hot gun. You can run up to .25 for the game, the safe zone is so small you would be spotted pouring BB’s out of a .28/.30 tub (assuming you were stupid enough to bring them in the original packet) The woodland site is based on trust and will re chrono you if other players let the Marshall know they think you are running hot. Personally no idea if/how they weight the BB’s you use, I have 2xAEG’s which chrono around 320-330 fps on .20 so never been re chrono’ed on field. There are obvious and easy ways to cheat the system but as Jez said above if you cheat from the start airsoft isn’t really for you.

Me in the middle as we move the crates to the base, the guy with the shield did a cracking job of deflecting the incoming BB's from a LMG posted down the track. Really wasn't sure about the leg mounted, open top mag carrier thing but it works really well, reduced the insulation around my body and help keep me cool. Me, parked where the LMG gunner was giving him few rounds back when the teams switched.

I wear either my Apple Watch or no watch. When I wear the Apple Watch I wear it on the inside of my left wrist so its face is against the gun when shouldered. I don’t wear it for indoor CQB, as it’s very up close and personal, I don’t even use an optic as I’ve seen to many shot out.

I have an older Cyma MP5 platinum and it doesn't do this, happily carries on shooting after briefing / lunch with no need to mess with the battery.

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Latest additions to my MP5's Nuprol E1 T1 red dot on a raiser for the MP5k. Won't use the red dot for CQB but I will be playing a woodland game on Sunday so it will come in handy. Short mock suppressor for the full size MP5. Really like the look of this one now, it was a scratched boneyard gun that wouldn't shoot straight when I got it a few weeks ago. It's been serviced, greased, straightened, painted and had the optic, fore grip and suppressor added and looks stunning now.

As above, part of our fields CQB briefing is “Do not pick up anyone else’s reusable grenades” leave them where they are or if they are a trip hazard move them to the side of the corridor or room, if I randomly find one I just tell the Marshall where it is when’s there’s a lull in the action. Distracting you in any other way is fair game, I’d be pleased he didn’t come through the door and shoot me to make sure.

More open top viper mag pouches to go on my belt as I was sweating buckets under my chest rig last week. 2x 1100 mah 11.1v batteries and a 1 point sling as I am taking a mate to airsoft for the first time tomorrow so need to be able to field both guns at the same time instead of choosing between them.

Great day out at Invicta Woodlands. Usual good vibes, some great weapons and tactics deployed, highlight was a HPA M249 LMG with a steam/flash/tracer device on the front of it, you could hear it firing across the field, such a distinctive sound. The guy running it had to go out and reload a couple of times mid game, that’s a lot of ammo given the 2500 BB’s in a box mag. The ghillie snipers taking to the (literal) swamp to flank was exceptionally good work! Played 4 games, capture the flag and hold the base/location, swapping spawns to give both teams the same advantages/disadvantages. Was close until the last game when a few of the red team went home (or we ran out of steam and blew it). Took my recently purchased and rebuilt boneyard Cyma MP5 which shot admirably for its first day on the field with me. Chronoed right at the field limit and shot laser straight. I took the 1200 round drum mag and used it for the first game but switched back to mid caps for the other games as just blasting away on full auto is fun but not very tactical and I found it took something from the game? Usual few not taking their hits and there seemed to be a few players with very long range DMR’s who were impossible to hit back, even though I was right at the max limit on the chrono, 340 vs 400fps makes a difference but it felt like a bigger distance than usual. Food truck was ace, bacon, sausage and hash brown roll for brekkie and a burger with chips made a great lunch. Bought a mock suppressor for the MP5 from platoon stores on site just to add to the look. Overall throughly enjoyed, thanks to AJ and the team!

Just finished putting this together, it was a boneyard Cyma Platinum MP5 CM0.41G which was scratched, bashed and wouldn’t shoot straight. A good clean and service on the inside, fresh coat of paint to the metalwork, fore grip, Nuprol torch, theta optic, a bit of camo tape and extended battery tube for the stock and she’s ready to skirmish on Sunday. Might pull it apart again and paint the metal parts in camo and add a dummy suppressor at some point but trying to decide if it should stay Matt black as it is a MP5?

Have a couple of Cyma Platinum MP5’s which have a nice, snappy trigger, good range and rate of fire. One was bought second hand, run both on 11.1v LiPo without issue. Had one upgraded with a Gate Aster/brushless high speed motor (for snappier trigger) and longer barrel/hopup (for Accuracy and range) which improved it but not by a huge amount. can’t comment on their life as I’ve not had them for very long.

I’ve seen earthy browny coloured BB’s somewhere and did think about getting them but then I played a night CQB game where everyone was shooting bright green/red tracers and I realised seeing what/where you were shooting was more important than stealth so didn’t buy them.

That is stunning, planning to do something similar with my new (used) Cyma

The Marshalls said they only have another 4-6 weeks but other players said that's been the story for a while now. The surrounding area is a very flat and muddy building site now so they must be getting close to demolishing it.

Played the Invicta Black Site evening CQB for the first time. Very different to woodlands, fast, tactical and very close (as it should be for CQB). Used my upgraded Cyma MP5K which was perfect, 3 x mid cap mags and my battle belt, it was far to hot for a plate carrier. Plenty of very interesting looking kit taken into the game, lots of HPA, mostly very rapid and accurate pistols. Got shot more in this 4 hour session than I have in 5/6 woodlands full day events I've played, but also got more hits. Covered in bumps and bruises but had an amazing time. 5x 20/25 min games with a cool down in-between. I was unsure how the 300 round ammo limit (per game) would work out but with no full auto, the games being very short and all the walking back to re spawn I only used 100 to 200 rounds per game so pleased I chose the mid caps. It was dark when we started, around 7pm and was pitch black but the time we finished at 11pm. Great fun trying to understand watching the shadows and tactically using a gun mounted light. Lots of room clearing pyro and tracer BB's added to the experience. The safe zone is small and tight so it was really fun discussing the last round and how it played out then as soon as the game started it was full on no mercy, then back to mates agin. I've found woodlands is a bit more spread out so everyone splits off into their own groups so you don't get the same level of chat.

Cheap ex demo Cyma Platinum MP5 CM0.41K, longer hand guard of the one I already have, if it works I plan to either go full Die Hard replica or upgrade it similar to my MP5K PDW and add a longer internal barrel with suppressor outer so I can have a bit more range and accuracy. Theta Optics TO551 Red Dot to go on top of it. Roll of camo wrap, 11.1v lipo and a bag of 0.28 BB's Black t shirt, black thin tacticool long sleeve top and black jumper and an extra 2 x 130rd mid caps for evening indoor CQB