mrfoxhound

50% mark up

yes but the joules are not gonna change , both post are relevant

still didn't chrono, here's someone else's un bias review of the same day

i think you miss the point of what we are discussing

its combination joules and weighing bbs, joules is the constant if the site limit for full auto aeg is 1.2 j and someone Chronos 1.2 j but the fps is 240 and they said the bb weight is 0.28 they lying cos a 0.28 at 1.2 j would chrono at 300/310 fps at 1.20 j , you would need to then weight to confirm , so technically they have passed chrono but have lied about the bb weight ,if there lying about bb weight what else are they being dishonest about?

yer can you remember when someone was walked off site or banned at your local airsoft?

you dont you weigh his shit , then ban him

that specific example would be related to what the site rules are ... so for example if the site rules where 1.2 j for full auto 1.88 for dmr and 2.3 for bolt action and a guy rolled up and said he was using .32s and his fps was 280/290 and his joules are 1.20/1.25 that's with in an acceptable variance all depending on how much over the site allows , i would be raising eye brows if if he said .32 and his fps is 240 and his joules is 1.20 , i don't think the average person cheating the chrono is going to such efforts to hide small % , but more larger jumps, i would also probly assume that people that are new to the hobby and either dont understand joule creep or that changing the weight is cheating the chrono ,i see it all the time on posts on facebook about people being a little to hot and some peoples advice is to just use heavy ammo , the consequences of that catch up with people

na the fps will not match your joule reading if i have a j reading of 1.2 and say im using 0.2 the fps is gonna be 360 mark if i have the same j reading and they say they are using 0.2 and the fps is 240 , im gonna question that and ask to weigh the bbs cos there using heavy ammo , 0.45 bbs

joules and fps not matching up

first off why are you name calling me for wanting to have more rigours standards for chrono then none at all, site culture and community is better then having a safety procedure?. anyone in mitigation against a site, using AP as an example as a defence would auto win they do not have mandatory chrono and have no way of knowing how many people are cheating the chrono on any given day you are arguing that we dont need seat belts because sometimes people die wearing a seat belt. if they lie about bb weight its easy to tell because of the chrono results , as i said before integral part of the hobby knowing bb weight ,fps and the chrono, the point of chrono is to cover you for insurance and insuring everyone is within the limit the site has set,if your telling porkies at the chrono and airsoft im gonna consider them a bad actor and we dont want that type of person around an honesty type hobby

so we take the assumption he is intentional cheating the chrono and hurts someone , and is then caught? if so, then the site wouldn't be found at fault it would be the player who intentional cheated would be found at fault

still they chrono no one and only spot check , here this is why it is bad, lets say 10 people play , we know 2 are intentionally cheating with hot shooters and the other 8 are as honest as honest can be , we don't do mandatory chrono at the start of the day and only spot check during games, we spot check during the second game, 4 people all pass, 2 people are still out on site with hot shooters.

yea ive seen it a few time ok so if you have full eye seal, type of foam is usually what is contacting skin , bbs can squeeze thru the foam skin part , yes straps and attachment points break when shot all the time

compromise eye protection involves more then breaking , involves straps , skin foam contact , stuff like that which i think people forget about better then no chrono at all also gives better cover with insurance if anything happens,