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I know the slides between the Gen 3 and 4 are not compatible, but what about the frames? I recently installed the internals of my Glock 22 into a Guarder nylon Gen 2 frame. Now I would like to put the internals of my Glock 17 Gen 4 into the new Guarder 17 Gen 4 frame. Are there any major differences that I should be aware of? The internals of the Gen4 may be slightly different from those of the Glock 22, but I imagine the general layout or mechanics are pretty much the same. Can anyone confirm this? I know the Guarder Gen 4 frame needs a special one piece serial number tag unit that is different from other Guarder Glock ones, and has to be bought separately, but is there anything else I should know about?

Thanks very much for the response.

Am I correct in thinking that the frames and internals of these two guns are identical? Can the slides just be swapped over?

Thanks.

Thanks a lot.

I am thinking about the CNC aluminium slide kit which comes with a lightweight blowback housing, and wondering what parts I will have to change to run the TM with a metal slide. I believe I will need a stronger recoil spring, but the Guarder ones are often 150% or more and I would prefer something in the 120-140% range. Will I immediately have to replace the TM nozzle for a stronger Guarder one, or will the original last for a while. If I need the Guarder one straight away, will I be able to just transfer the TM internals into it. I know many owners put in a stronger hammer spring to avoid the problem of light strikes. How soon do I need to get one? Is light striking something that only occurs using green gas in higher temperatures? Is there anything else I need to change that I am not aware of? I would appreciate any advice members could give me.

Sorry. I muddied this with my overlong post. What I would really like to know is can a steel hammer work with stock TM alloy parts (disconnector, sear, valve knocker etc) for a while or will it chew them up very quickly. Mike Cripps once told me that the TM parts were tough enough to take pairing with a steel hammer. Is this really the case?

Thanks for the replies. I had thought about anodising, and may go that route. The Airsoft Masterpiece stuff is nice (I have a couple of their slides), but not cheap if you then add their steel sear , disconnector etc.

One of my hi capas is partially customised. All the externals are now black except for the hammer. So I have been looking for a black hammer. At first I tought I would simply buy the 4.3 black hammer since I assumed it would fit. However it was impossible to get one, even from Asia (and I include Japan). So then I wondered if a TM classic 1911 might fit. Doesn't matter since I couldn't find one of those either. In fact I am finding it increasingly difficult to find any airsoft parts I want these days. Then I came across this: ZCI Hammer set for Marui Hi Capa (highpressureairsoft.co.uk) Given the very low price I assumed the parts were made of alloy. But then I saw this from the same vendor: ZCI Steel Hi-Capa Replacement External Hammer (highpressureairsoft.co.uk) It is steel which makes me think the complete hammer set must be steel, which would make the parts even cheaper than I already thought they were. I just wondered if the parts would turn out to be cheap and cheerful or cheap and nasty. The alternative was to go for another steel hammer kit. The prices for most of these were far more than I was prepared to pay. For example anything made by Cow Cow or Dynamic Precision is extremely expensive and just the hammer alone is very pricey.. And then there is the problem of combining steel parts with pot metal ones. If you change the hammer to steel it would seem advisable to change the disconnector and other parts it interacts with to the same material. I though about just painting the silver hammer I have, but paint never lasts long and doesn't always looks good. Then I came across this set of steel parts: KUNG FU Airsoft Toy Steel Hammer Set for TM Hi-Capa 5.1 GBB Series KF51-008 | eBay Once again cheap and I imagine cheerful or nasty. In any case they would probably need some light stoning. And I would need to purchase a steel sear. Or maybe a steel hammer would work for quite a long time with the original TM disconnector, sear etc. I have no idea. My hi capa doesn't get used much - only occasionally at home - so it might last. I am very tempted to try the ZCI since it is readily available and cheap enough not to worry about if it doesn't do the job. I really would be most grateful for some advice from those who know their hi capas.

Probably not a lot, Stew. Good point, Mr Magnon. In fact I never use the slide stop to release the slide. Thanks to you both for answering my question. Buy the gun and leave it alone would appear to be the sensible choice.

I know later TM pistols no longer chew up their slides, but for those earlier models that do is it possible to glue in a small piece of metal to protect the slide from being eaten? Not everyone wants to put a full metal slide on a Marui. I ask because I am tempted to buy the little TM Glock26 but don't have a clue how long the slide will last, even on 144a gas. Do the 1911 range also suffer from this problem?

Thanks. I thought this was the case but needed reassurance.

Slower cycling? Less gas efficiency? Your experience has been very different from mine.

I am not trying to get round the VCR. I wouldn't necessarily sell both parts - for example maybe just an upper which I had replaced with custom parts.

When you say "lower performance" don't you really mean lower power? Very few metal airsoft pistols have the performance or reliability of TM guns. Plastic pistols are fine over 10 to 20 yards (even thirty). That is the sort of range that even real pistols are designed for. Not everybody can shoot like Hickok 45.

Am I right in thinking that UKARA or any other defence would not be required by the seller from a buyer provided the upper and lower were sold separately, and to different people? I know that parts can be sold to people without a defence, but would what is effectively half a pistol be legally regarded as parts?

Thanks for the reply. They are indeed best with their plastic slides.

I understand that it is in the nature of ABS to become shiny quite quickly, and that there aren 't really any fixes for it except painting and repainting. There are plenty of slide kits for TM pistols but not many polymer custom frames. Guarder has plenty for TM Glocks, but that's about it. For other pistols like HKs there doesn't seem to be anything. So do owners just have to use paint or put up with shiny plastic?

Thanks for all the replies.

Thanks for the reply.

I have watched plenty of video reviews of TM plastic pistols over the years. Retailers generally advise the use of 144a gas with them. However quite a few reviewers say things like: I use Abbey Predator Ultra gas instead of green gas in my TM pistols. I have heard it said that the Ultra is not as powerful as green gas, yet I always thought Ultra was green gas - maybe not quite as powerful as something like Nuprol 2.0 but green gas nonetheless. I have also heard that Nuprol 1.0 works better with TM pistols than 144a. And is a bit more powerful. I know most owners go ahead and use Nuprol 2.0 in their TM pistols, but it wasn't my intention to get into a discussion about that. It is just frustrating that manufacturers don't put the psi of their gas on the cans. It would be a more reliable indicator of power than word of mouth. What makes one gas more powerful than another? I thought propane was the base ingredient in all airsoft gas.

Very nice. Thanks.

Thanks. Is your TM USP the compact or full size version?

I suppose you are right. Thanks for the reply.

I never skirmish my pistols and only use 144a gas. I always release the slide by power stroking it, avoid engaging the safety and never use the decocking mechanism. Fancied a more compact TM and have been considering the above. I know the HK is smaller but not unduly light for its size while the PX4 is satisfyingly hefty. I prefer the looks of the HK. In the end though reliability is the most important consideration. Which of the two would you choose?