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If you could change the joule limit, would you?
Adolf Hamster replied to Gunboat Diplomat's topic in General Discussion
I think it would be a site dependant thing. A site with wide open fields/sightlines could afford a higher general level if managed well. If we throw out any realistic concerns and assume people always stick to the rules and judge things like med correctly free from accidental or intentional breaches i'd work along the lines of: 1j for pews to be used point blank, so cqb sites would have that as a flat peak. So your subguns, shotguns, handguns etc all fall into this category. Up to 1.5j for "assault" style pews outdoors, but with an med to ensure the impact owchie is 1j (i cba doing the math but lets assume it works out that ~10m on 0.48's sees them dropped to 1j) Up to 2j for "battle" rifles, same as before with a higher med calculated to our 1j owchie standard and the requirement that you need to be carrying a bulkier pew to justify it, like a fal or scar h. This would apply to big support guns, but you cant just slap a drum into an arp9 you gotta be lugging around a pkm or fn mag to join that party. Up to 3j for bolty, again you're gonna be landing a chunky med. Those would be maximums, and our hypothetical situation would have sites adjusting limits up/down based on their field characteristics so a dense woodland site might be running flat 1j if the terrain prevents people engaging at any major distance. The idea is that you arent getting hit by anything higher than 1j. Of course this is firmly rooted in a dreamland and in reality such a system would fail spectacularly given even benign isntances like people popping up right infront of a hedge as they pull the trigger on a farther target let alone that sites still dont know the difference between fps and joules and before we acknowledge the existence of the kickingmustangs of this world. In reality i'd be more inclined to go for a flat limit until sites learn how to understand and police energy limits well given everyone shows up with different ammo weights and different gun types, then maybe we could introduce complexity. -
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Rickwales replied to Gunboat Diplomat's topic in General Discussion
Im new to this, but I don't think I want it increased either for the reasons above. -
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If you could change the joule limit, would you?
LMKipper replied to Gunboat Diplomat's topic in General Discussion
For the most part, no. I think we have a very nice balance, however I do sometimes wish it was possible for LMGs to have a higher power limit for a touch more range. You’d need associated rules (MED, only fire mounted etc) but would make them serve more of a purpose than they currently do. - Today
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If you could change the joule limit, would you?
Tackle replied to Gunboat Diplomat's topic in General Discussion
No thank you, I agree that we have a good balance in all the categories. Airsoft guns are like vehicles, if a car has 100bhp & you tune it to 200bhp, you don't therefore get double its top speed or acceleration, airsoft guns are no different, plus harnessing that extra power is another issue with hops etc. And extra power will likely shorten the lifespan of the internals, another negative 👎 -
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BigStew replied to Gunboat Diplomat's topic in General Discussion
No I wouldn't. I really don't know if it's sadism but i don't get the more power lot in airsoft!. I have seen people get their teeth shot out, i have had to dig BBs out my arm, still got a mark on my collar over a month after i got shot. All at UK limits most from long range shots. It's been proved time again you don't need power to get range and personally think airsoft would better with out snipers. -
If you could change the joule limit, would you?
EDcase replied to Gunboat Diplomat's topic in General Discussion
I agree with marcusr. I think we currently have the best balance -
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marcusr replied to Gunboat Diplomat's topic in General Discussion
I think the current limits keep gameplay at a close range that encourages action and fun. I think having higher range is good up to a point (see paintball vs airsoft) but the 50-70m limit from a well tuned 1.14j airsoft gun is about right. Also, might be an unpopular opinion, but getting shot at close range by 1.14j hurts plenty for me. Much higher and I'd be less inclined to do CQB. -
Been thinking about airsoft joule limits in other countries and wondering who has the ‘optimal’ limit to balance effective range against injury. I would personally happily take a higher UK limit, although tempered by the fact I still want my kids to be able to take part and I wouldn’t want an increase in field limits to result in site insurance policies that start mandating additional armour beyond eye protection. Where is your happy middle ground? Or if you are not in the UK, what is your limit and are you happy with it?
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Good price that.
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They're gunna be rare for a while. I'm ngl, I thought about it.
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I'm worried he'll drop and break all my mags... 😂 I sent him your posts, can't let him read it all or he'll know what he's getting. Thanks again, appreciate your time and effort mate. He's buzzing now.
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Sadly, some poor barsteward will probably end up paying for this. Sooo unbelievably cheeky.
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A PS …. Aim to practice reloads from either hand, which means you can keep the left pistol on the left and the right on the right Alternatively if better at reloading in one particular side then you can swap pistols over as they empty, that can mean you always know which will run out before the next and can reload from the optimum side
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Brilliant reply, I'll read it him. Thanks. We have 5 mags for 2 pistols.
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I don't see why they wouldn't let him akimbo. It's worse than just using one gun in game terms, though it is really fun.
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Practically brand new. Styled according to the US Special Forces build. Black/FDE comes with - NPAS - Sig pistol grip FDE - VFC Minimalist stock DDC/FDE + Sig Check Riser BPW - RAM Magwell - Customised 300BLK dust cover - BCM KAG foregrip - Surefire M600 + mlok bracket + unity mod button - BPW Sig SLH 300 FDE Suppressor Price £700 The full black version comes with - NPAS - Magpul K2 XL pistol grip - Airsoft Artisan new version foldable buffer tube + Magpul SL-K Stock - RAM Magwell - Customised 300BLK dust cover - BCM KAG foregrip - Sig SRD762Ti suppressor Optional - VFC V3 FDE 2025 Green Gas Magazine +£60 - VFC V3 Black Green Gas Magazine +£45 - VFC Stanag Grey magazine +£30 - Sig Sauer Romeo 4T + Scaleworks Leap Riser 1.54 +£90 - Aluminium body NGAL fully functional (including IR laser) Black +£90 Can mix and match accessories/attachments. Collection London NW6, shipment +£15Ask for price
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Lovely quality UH-1 clone, was about £130 new from airsoftworld.net. Super rugged, I’ve used this at CQB several times without a protector. Retinal is wicked! Super crisp. Way better than I can photograph. Can send a video if needed tho. cosmetic wear to the externals but I think it looks better with it tbh. Tape on underside just to protect the rails on one of my rifles 😂 no battery included, needed for other stuff. Comes in original hardcase box price plus £5 postage.60.00 GBP
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Mish Mash of random parts that don’t work together fully. Could be a nice dual tone cheap sidearm, HFC frame, been painted a few times, unknown non TM spec slide, will work if worn in together more. Does shoot, but slide is a very tight fit. Will include a stainless metal outer barrel too.No magazine. price plus £5 towards post40.00 GBP
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Lovely feeling heafty chonky Sig Sauer with a leak free mag. Owned it for 4 years, works great. Always keep co2 in it and it’s stayed leak free. Comes with the thread adapter. Nice DA/SA action Few marks to the finish but it functions well. The safety can sometimes not engage. Long DA first trigger pull is also a safety tho. Price plus £5 towards post.100.00 GBP
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Limited options such as pistols change the dynamics, and as such are typically a limiter when up against others with higher capacity. However they are fun, and with the limitations when you get the kills then the payback is higher To be effective twin pistols need to have their reloading managed - not just having a holster to deposit one in order to release your hand for magazine changes, but avoiding them both being empty at once. It feels great to hold out both arms alternatively firing one shot per side, but then they both need reloading at once rendering you ineffective. Start the game favouring one side (eg right hand) until it’s probably half way ahead of the other. Then use them together When you’ve either counted it to empty (or more likely you notice that nothing is coming out) then it’s time to change magazine, but you still have the left one ready to shoot. Practice reloading so you don’t have to holster one - it helps to have big hands and long fingers If in a stable position you can drop a magazine, but it’s most likely that you want to stash it - pull it with your fingertips, drop into a dump pouch or down your shirt. Again with fingertips pull a fresh magazine and insert - your right pistol is now full and your left is half full If convenient move the dumped magazine to a pouch (and remember to manage what pouched magazines are full / empty) By keeping both pistols out when reloading you have the ability to shoot, a holstered pistol can’t shoot anyone (except yourself)
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