More blank firers being banned.

[novioman]

https://basc.org.uk/amnesty-announced-for-bruni-top-venting-blank-firing-pistols/

[DerDer]

That email from a retailer announcing a blank pistol clearance sale last month, makes a lot more sense now. 

[novioman]

2 hours ago, DerDer said:

That email from a retailer announcing a blank pistol clearance sale last month, makes a lot more sense now. 

Nice dealer, getting rid of his stock of guns that will be banned in a few months. Bet he wasn’t passing on the information to the buyers.

[DerDer]

51 minutes ago, novioman said:

Nice dealer, getting rid of his stock of guns that will be banned in a few months. Bet he wasn’t passing on the information to the buyers.

Correct, it's described in the email as a "commercial decision" to discontinue their lines. If I wanted to be charitable, most of the offerings weren't on that home office list. However a certain design based on an Italian firm's products was included in the ban list, was among the offerings of the sale (Both in black and blue). Not very good behavior. 

Edited 8 hours ago by DerDer
clarity.

[Tackle]

I'm on the fence on this, obviously i get why kit like this gets banned due to the criminal element exploiting them, but ive always wondered why they're so popular amongst a section of the law abiding general populace ?. 

Its not like there's a lot of opportunities to use them, safe places to fire them without inviting unwanted attention, so for most they'll be wall hangers or paperweights, in which case they should never come to the attention of the authorities ☝️, so i wouldn't lose any sleep over the ban.

 

 

[Lyndication]

6 minutes ago, Tackle said:

ive always wondered why they're so popular amongst a section of the law abiding general populace ?

 

Popular for LARPs, MilSims, theater industry, the film industry, etc, etc.

 

Basically any time you want a really loud bang out of a gun but no risk of an Alec Baldwin incident.

 

[Tackle]

1 minute ago, Lyndication said:

 

Popular for LARPs, MilSims, theater industry, the film industry, etc, etc.

 

Basically any time you want a really loud bang out of a gun but no risk of an Alec Baldwin incident.

 

Obviously im aware of the legitimate uses for blank firers, im not exactly thick as 💩 lol, but i reckon a majority of those sold are to private owners with no intention of participating in the scenarios you mentioned, so a retailer offloading their stock at sale prices isn't necessarily a dodgy move imho.

Unless he flogs the lot to a scally in a bally, no questions asked 😉

[novioman]

21 minutes ago, Tackle said:

I'm on the fence on this, obviously i get why kit like this gets banned due to the criminal element exploiting them, but ive always wondered why they're so popular amongst a section of the law abiding general populace ?. 

Its not like there's a lot of opportunities to use them, safe places to fire them without inviting unwanted attention, so for most they'll be wall hangers or paperweights, in which case they should never come to the attention of the authorities ☝️, so i wouldn't lose any sleep over the ban.

 

 

Like a lot of these bans, some will ignore it and just hang on to them, it’s happened with all these types of legislation ideas.

Had a guy come to our club a few months ago who still had 3 air cartridge guns, he hadn’t heard about the ban which was many years ago. He handed them into the police, they just took them & made no fuss apparently.

Edited 8 hours ago by novioman

[Lyndication]

8 minutes ago, Tackle said:

Obviously im aware of the legitimate uses for blank firers, im not exactly thick as 💩 lol, but i reckon a majority of those sold are to private owners with no intention of participating in the scenarios you mentioned, so a retailer offloading their stock at sale prices isn't necessarily a dodgy move imho.

Unless he flogs the lot to a scally in a bally, no questions asked 😉

 

I mean, a lot of people who go to LARPs, etc are private owners innit. Also sometimes used to scare birds, one of my old jobs used to have a guy go up on the roof and fire a few off to scare the gulls away.

 

Plus some rich bastards have nice, big gardens where they don't have to worry about bothering their neighbours, and much like Airsofters, a lot of them buy the shiny thing, fire it twice, then hang it on the wall for 17 years.

[Tackle]

Just now, novioman said:

Like a lot of these bans, some will ignore it and just hang on to them, it’s happened with all these types of legislation ideas.

Agree, & imnot advocating lawbreaking, but just like rif ownership, common sense & responsibility needs to be used to ensure they're not misused, anyone who doesn't do that, whether its blank firers, airsoft, air rifles etc, deserves everything they've got coming to them, my only worry there is they don't take us down with them.

@novioman regarding the guy with the, im guessing Brocock revolvers, he, & & anyone like him should be compensated, if they've been honest enough to hand them over, they shouldn't be left out of pocket for doing so, for once it would be a positive use of public funds, rather than the absolute bollocks they usually squander it on🤬

[novioman]

26 minutes ago, Tackle said:

Agree, & imnot advocating lawbreaking, but just like rif ownership, common sense & responsibility needs to be used to ensure they're not misused, anyone who doesn't do that, whether its blank firers, airsoft, air rifles etc, deserves everything they've got coming to them, my only worry there is they don't take us down with them.

@novioman regarding the guy with the, im guessing Brocock revolvers, he, & & anyone like him should be compensated, if they've been honest enough to hand them over, they shouldn't be left out of pocket for doing so, for once it would be a positive use of public funds, rather than the absolute bollocks they usually squander it on🤬

The government were crafty with the brocock ban as you were given the option to keep them if you applied to put them on FAC. 
As I understand it, please correct me if iam wrong. If the government ban a gun because it could be converted to fire live rounds they don’t have to offer compensation.

If for example they choose to ban replica airguns because they didn’t want them in circulation for some reason, then they would have to compensate owners. 

[Tackle]

1 hour ago, novioman said:

The government were crafty with the brocock ban as you were given the option to keep them if you applied to put them on FAC. 
As I understand it, please correct me if iam wrong. If the government ban a gun because it could be converted to fire live rounds they don’t have to offer compensation.

If for example they choose to ban replica airguns because they didn’t want them in circulation for some reason, then they would have to compensate owners. 

Dodgy b#stards the lot of them, while im not up on the precise laws on this situation, the government would have benefited via taxation when these products, & all their ancillaries, when they were bought, so if they then want them handed over, for whatever reason, those who lawfully comply should have been compensated/rewarded, especially as pre ban there was no registration process on these, so nothing to stop anyone selling them to the highest criminal bidder, rather than give them away for nothing.

But what do we know compared to the crooks that run the country 😉

(IMHO, not the forums)

[novioman]

30 minutes ago, Tackle said:

Dodgy b#stards the lot of them, while im not up on the precise laws on this situation, the government would have benefited via taxation when these products, & all their ancillaries, when they were bought, so if they then want them handed over, for whatever reason, those who lawfully comply should have been compensated/rewarded, especially as pre ban there was no registration process on these, so nothing to stop anyone selling them to the highest criminal bidder, rather than give them away for nothing.

But what do we know compared to the crooks that run the country 😉

(IMHO, not the forums)

I know that the air cartridge (brocock ban) was a complete failure as only a small percentage that the police thought were in circulation got accounted for. In the House of Lords a few years ago they were discussing the lever release rifles as that law was changing, one of the members obviously knew his stuff and reminded his colleagues that compensation would be needed to avoid the farce of the air cartridge ban were 60-80 thousand went underground.