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I'm really set on this gun, love the longer barrel of bullpups plus the auto/semi auto trigger.

So do any of you have this gun or similar, can I extend the barrel, is there much in the way of mods, what sight do you use or recommend.

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I have one. I love it to bits! It comes with an adapter so you can attach a silencer, it is also compatible with other AUG outer barrels. I use a WE Con RDS sight. 

 

An AUG can be upgraded quite easily. Standard Version 3 gearbox, there are upgrade AUG hop units as well. 

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as asmodai said, you can run a longer inner barrel and put a can over it, or just change the whole top end. from what i've seen of others doing top end changes it's about as quick as changing the mag if you have the spare barrel handy.

 

as for sights, it's up to you what you like. personally i like the honest and simple red dot with an optional magnifier.

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The TM AUG is something I've not had a lot of dealings with. A good portion of AUG users tend to have the cheaper models and tweak them a bit.

JG and APS AUGs I do know.

The style of the gun you are looking at is the AUG commando. It is available from all 3 of the main aug manufacturers. JG, APS, TM. Each one has slight differences but are functionally identical.

JG sell the basic commando for £120, re-branded as snow wolf.

https://gunfire.pl/product-eng-1152215959-SW-020T-Carbine-Replica-Tan.html

It is not a high cycle gearbox, and will do 15-18rps on a regular 7.4 lipo.

APS also make a commando variant for £140, Re-branded by Gunfire in this instance.

https://gunfire.pl/product-eng-1152216089-GFG54-carbine-replica-tan.html

It is also not a high cycle gearbox, and will do 12-16rps on a regular 7.4 lipo.


Externally both are very close to the TM. APS models have a raised texture on the pistol grip and body but other than that they all look the same.

The high cycle in contrast will be doing 25+rps on a 7.4 lipo.

ASG AUGs can be either APS or JG depending on the model of gun. They cherry pick contracts.



You have several options in my mind.

You go with the high cycle, Consider adding a mosfet, Grab 5+ mags. Cost £345-355 ish (not including the labour for the fet installation, batteries or charger).

Or you go with the JG. Add a fet (£10), a quality high speed motor (asg ultimate 35K) (£50),Steel bushings (£10), SHS silent head system (£25)(optional), A tight bore barrel like a ZCI(£20)(optional), Grab 5 mags (£45). £235-280 (not including labour,batteries charger). You still get 25ish rps, But also a box built for 350fps that should be durable as well.

Either way would work from my perspective, I'd probably err on the side of the JG just because you have some cherry picked components, and a TBB as well as a few spare parts for messing about with.

APS guns are also upgradable in the same way the JG is, However with the aps gun the piston head upgrade is essential as the stock APS ones are garbage.
 

13 hours ago, Huxley said:

can I extend the barrel


Why would you want to? If you want a longer aug variant they already exist. The A1 A2 and A3 models all have 509mm internal barrels. The Commando variant has 320mm just under what is normal on an M4.

If you are adamant on the TM then adding inner barrel length may also cause other problems. Those guns use ported cylinders. Adding barrel length means that the cylinder no longer has the volume of air to get the BB out of the barrel effectively. In short you loose FPS and accuracy. You can still add a suppressor by using the adapter that comes with the TM, The JG doesn't come with an adapter so you would have to buy an aftermarket one.





 

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Thanks, given me a lot to think about.

Never really thought about buying a cheaper model and modding it.

And from what I've seen the Steyr is the way to do it, as it comes apart so easily.

 

I think I've found my gun, and I'm in love.

 

https://www.taniemilitaria.pl/pl,steyr-aug-gfg28-a2-multicam-gfc,0,5,6,7,6199.html#.WxTorZXTU0M

 

Seen videos of them switching barrels for can which will be useful.

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That's an APS gun.

I would do the same modifications to it that I listed for the JG. And I would pay someone to do them if you haven't done gun tech before.

Shimming, Motor, Mosfet, Silent head system, TB Barrel. It will have steel bearings so they don't need to be done.

The SHS bore up aug kit is what I have in both of my AUG's. And both run a 20x2.5mm oring. If you can't find that kit then the standard  silent head set (non bore up) for V3, Using the original aug airseal nozzle and cylinder running a 19x2.5mm oring is the next best option.

It's already got a QC spring system, and the inner barrel is 509mm. Personally I'd drop the inner barrel length to 430-450mm and use a ZCI stainless budget barrel. The hop unit doesn't need changing. Don't be tempted to shim the inner barrel, Augs need the inner barrel and hop to move, as that movement keeps the gun locked together nice and tight.

The Aug is like lego, you can swap the inner barrels and hop, or the full upper in a very short amount of time. The only exception to this is the A3 style full ris AUG's. You can still swap the uppers, but to swap the inner barrel and hop you need to remove the Ris section.

Again personally I wouldn't pay for the milticam paint job. You pay double for the same gun. If you went with plain olive green the gun you are looking at is half the price!

https://gunfire.pl/product-eng-1152215955-SW-020B-Carbine-Replica-Olive-Drab.html

Added to that that is the JG so the head upgrades are an option rather than a necessity.

heads.

https://gunfire.pl/product-eng-1152214527-Piston-Cylinder-Head-CNC-Set-for-Gearbox-V3.html

mags

https://gunfire.pl/product-eng-1152199189-Hi-Cap-AUG-Magazine-330-BBs.html



I'm assuming you are in the UK as well. So I'll link off some UK parts.

Cheap mosfet.

https://www.ak2m4.co.uk/internal-parts/mosfets

 

Inner barrel

https://www.ak2m4.co.uk/internal-parts/inner-barrels/zci-inner-barrel-450mm

Hop rubber

https://www.ak2m4.co.uk/internal-parts/hopups-rubbers/maple-leaf-macaron-60-aeg

 

Hop nub

https://www.ak2m4.co.uk/internal-parts/hopups-rubbers/maple-leaf-nub

motor

http://www.patrolbase.co.uk/airsoft-motor/asg-infinity-cnc-motor-u-35000-blue-short-shaft.htm#.WxUciIrTVes


All of that in a stock JG aug you should be seeing 22-25 rps from a 30C 7.4 lipo. You will start to see problems if you try to run it with 11.1v Those components are selected to work at 7.4v on a full cylinder. It's about £240 for the gun and the upgrade parts and 5 additional mags before postage. So even upgraded it's still £60 cheaper than the base TM before upgrades! Resale on the gun if the upgrades are done right should still be reasonable. I would expect to be able to sell it with those mods done right with the mags for £160-180 just under what a second hand TM would cost. Those upgrades add the correct value to the gun, Rather than expensive mods like PDI inner barrels, and CNC hop units.

I would do the swap to deans and order batteries on deans from the start.

Provided you put the mosfet behind the gearbox wall you should have space for one of these.

https://www.componentshop.co.uk/7-4v-2200mah-30c-continuous-discharge-airsoft-lipo-battery.html

2 of those will last a full day at most sites. Failing that if you are super cheap grab one and a charger and charge when on your lunch break. Should last all day doing that.

Get a decent charger as well.

https://www.componentshop.co.uk/accucel-6-digital-charger-with-5a-power-supply.html

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