Carta4 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Which do you think is best to buy? I know the internals are basically the same but do you think that the polymer of the raider out weighs the rail length and flip front sight of the 18? Any other factors welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Sitting Duck Posted September 16, 2016 Supporters Share Posted September 16, 2016 If you can run to it I personally would choose the CM18 The cheaper Raider has either the short 233mm or long 357mm barrel (there is no medium Raider) The front sight is cast into the outer barrel so if you seek to remove it you will need to saw it off and looks rough To adjust the hop on Raider & Carbines - the dust cover doesn't drop down after pulling charging handle (so you need to open the dust cover & hold it whilst trying to adjust the hop unit on the 2 cheaper G&G's) Yes the Raider (rear wired) has rails which is better than messing around trying to convert a Carbine (front wired) If you have to get a Raider then maybe consider a shorter one if you play CQB - not that it makes much difference But more that you could extend the short Raider but not quite so easy to reduce a long Raider CM18 - more expensive than Raider but dust cover drops down as expected Barrel is 275mm I think & the sights are very nice and easy to fold or remove if fitting your own on there (Raider's front sight is fixed on there so you are stuck with it or use risers or hacksaw) Choice of the Black/Tan or Tan/Black versions - hmmmm would of been nice of them to add a full black & full tan I guess It is a nicer looking gun imho but all the same it is same stuff as Raider inside Two things to point out on the CM18 - it comes with a 120rnd mid cap not a 300/450 HiCap so you will need a speed loader & The front flash hider is not my cuppa tea - it designed for quick screw on suppressor but found cheap ones go on wonky So you might change that like I have done - but that is just my personal opinion/taste Normally you have the good old reliable options of Carbine, Raider, FireHawk, CM18 and some others like G16 G26 + others All are pretty much the same inside - it is really down to your own personal choice of these great polymer receiver guns (there was some 30th edition G16 & G26 made but those were both front wired guns and still think the CM18 is best looking cheap G&G) Think CM18 is a very worthy consideration even though it is a bit more than Raider as you be glad of the removable sights I'd say Best thing is to ask others & maybe try to hold a few guns, if not consider the CM18 over the Raider if you got another £30 or so Hope this answers your questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters jcheeseright Posted September 16, 2016 Supporters Share Posted September 16, 2016 They're both made of the exact same plastic, barrel length is largely irrelevant. Choose the one that matches your budget and you like the look of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacarathe Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 CM18, comes with an old style tube loader, not good enough for a skirmish but okay in the back garden, and the sights on it weight 300g, I thought that was quite a bit. Certainly recommend it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostly Retired Moderators L3wisD Posted September 16, 2016 Mostly Retired Moderators Share Posted September 16, 2016 I'd pick the CM18 on the fact that it's a better base gun for modifying to your liking than the raider. As Duck mentioned, you're not limited to that front sight. Plus the stock gun looks much cooler than the raider I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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