Supporters jcheeseright Posted August 12, 2013 Supporters Share Posted August 12, 2013 the PTS ones are still $40-50, £9.99 is guaranteed cheapo clone, regardless of what it says on the packet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 12, 2013 Author Share Posted August 12, 2013 the PTS ones are still $40-50, £9.99 is guaranteed cheapo clone, regardless of what it says on the packet! Ok, could you give me a link to where i could buy these sights? Thanks (btw uk based please) i would do it myself but i dont know how to tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 12, 2013 Author Share Posted August 12, 2013 Aw snap! I have quite a few Rifles here and i do not know which one to choose! Please help me http://www.zerooneairsoft.com/product_info.php?cPath=268_318_403_497&products_id= http://www.proairsoftsupplies.co.uk/acatalog/tr_15_raider_l_top_tech.html http://www.proairsoftsupplies.co.uk/acatalog/TR16-Ranger--GEN3--TGR_016_RAN_BBB.html http://www.zerooneairsoft.com/product_info.php?cPath=268_318_403_495&products_id=8518 http://www.zerooneairsoft.com/product_info.php?cPath=268_318_403_495&products_id=6095 http://www.zerooneairsoft.com/product_info.php?cPath=268_318_403_494&products_id=5774 http://www.zerooneairsoft.com/product_info.php?cPath=268_318_403_494&products_id=5645 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters sp00n Posted August 12, 2013 Supporters Share Posted August 12, 2013 pick that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike636 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Aside from the two top techs they are pretty much the same just different barrels and exteriors, at some point you'll just have to decide which one you like best and get it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 pick that one And ummmmmm WHICH ONE IS THAT!!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters jcheeseright Posted August 13, 2013 Supporters Share Posted August 13, 2013 MBUS here: http://proairsoftsupplies.co.uk/acatalog/magpul_pts_mbus_2_de.html As for the gun, get what you like the look of, anything by G&G, G&P, TM, ICS, VFC should be a solid performer out of the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 MBUS here: http://proairsoftsupplies.co.uk/acatalog/magpul_pts_mbus_2_de.html As for the gun, get what you like the look of, anything by G&G, G&P, TM, ICS, VFC should be a solid performer out of the box. Well i would rather stick with G&G but out of that list, which one would you recommend for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike636 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Any of them will do! Which do YOU prefer, it's your money and gun after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 So, now i can get the Magpul Official Mbus sights for around £40 each, as i will be getting some sort of M4 / M16 variend (which comes with a front sight anyway) should i buy both sights, just the one back sight or this? --> http://www.airsoftworld.net/gun-accessories/sights-scopes-and-mounts/multi-reticle-holo-sight-1851.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 Any of them will do! Which do YOU prefer, it's your money and gun after all Haha, yeah i guess so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 Ok, my final (not really) question, should i spend the extra money and get a G&G Top Tech rifle (much better internals / exterior and a higher build quality) or the Combat Machine version (which is a lower build quality; plastic, internals are not as great) but much cheaper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters sp00n Posted August 13, 2013 Supporters Share Posted August 13, 2013 And ummmmmm WHICH ONE IS THAT!!!? that one with this selection of guns ... there is no right there is no wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters jcheeseright Posted August 13, 2013 Supporters Share Posted August 13, 2013 also, with regards the quality of the internals between a toptech and combat machine... you will not notice the difference unless you take it apart. don't make the rookie mistake of thinking metal gun with big price tag am bestest! it's simply not true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Ian_Gere Posted August 13, 2013 Supporters Share Posted August 13, 2013 If you can exercise a little patience, without straining something, and keep an eye on the auction lots from Joy's Optics, you will be able to get a holographic sight at least as good and probably better than the one you linked much cheaper than the buy it now price, which is still cheaper than the ASW one. Also, a piece of injection moulded plastic which isn't required to withstand any pressure or strain is not worth £30-40, let alone £60, no matter who made it. Had I not added this sentence, it would no doubt be argued that a Chinese clone could not be relied upon for accuracy, however the truth is that a mould is a mould and anybody can take the original item pieces, lightly grease them, and 1/2 immerse them in fine wet plaster to create a preliminary from which to cast metal which is then polished to perfection, bla, bla, bla, so that the final production mould produces exactly the same shape as the original part. Your gun is not going to heat up risking melting, should the plastic be inferior in any way, and you will find that recycled plastic bottles, although producing shorter polymer molecules than the first production of the plastic, are nonetheless strong enough to use in street furniture, so a clone MBUS will be pretty indistinguishable from the original in resistance to bumps, etc. Finally, quality control is the go to catch all argument of an inveterate Chinastuffophobe, but the plain fact is that even the best airsoft gun is so inaccurate that a few microns, tens even, of difference in size and/or shape of sight will make far less difference to shots than gun design parameters such as the microscopic amounts of lube which inescapably get spat out of the air nozzle with each shot and wind up, in part, on the hop rubber and all down the barrel, changing the various friction coefficients the BB's encounter with every shot, but more importantly even a silent fart's worth of breeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinobi Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Yeah i know, but they are aimed at real guns like an AR for example,but the PTS version is for the Airsoft Version The same PTS's that are discontinued and cost the same as the realsteel ones? Yes there both aimed at different things but a pair of PTS ones costed just as much as the realsteels. (I believe?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 The same PTS's that are discontinued and cost the same as the realsteel ones? Yes there both aimed at different things but a pair of PTS ones costed just as much as the realsteels. (I believe?) If thats so, that a rip-off, as the real steel sights are made of a higher grade im sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 If you can exercise a little patience, without straining something, and keep an eye on the auction lots from Joy's Optics, you will be able to get a holographic sight at least as good and probably better than the one you linked much cheaper than the buy it now price, which is still cheaper than the ASW one. Also, a piece of injection moulded plastic which isn't required to withstand any pressure or strain is not worth £30-40, let alone £60, no matter who made it. Had I not added this sentence, it would no doubt be argued that a Chinese clone could not be relied upon for accuracy, however the truth is that a mould is a mould and anybody can take the original item pieces, lightly grease them, and 1/2 immerse them in fine wet plaster to create a preliminary from which to cast metal which is then polished to perfection, bla, bla, bla, so that the final production mould produces exactly the same shape as the original part. Your gun is not going to heat up risking melting, should the plastic be inferior in any way, and you will find that recycled plastic bottles, although producing shorter polymer molecules than the first production of the plastic, are nonetheless strong enough to use in street furniture, so a clone MBUS will be pretty indistinguishable from the original in resistance to bumps, etc. Finally, quality control is the go to catch all argument of an inveterate Chinastuffophobe, but the plain fact is that even the best airsoft gun is so inaccurate that a few microns, tens even, of difference in size and/or shape of sight will make far less difference to shots than gun design parameters such as the microscopic amounts of lube which inescapably get spat out of the air nozzle with each shot and wind up, in part, on the hop rubber and all down the barrel, changing the various friction coefficients the BB's encounter with every shot, but more importantly even a silent fart's worth of breeze. Wow, thank you for your time put into this, and i really understood what you have said, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 also, with regards the quality of the internals between a toptech and combat machine... you will not notice the difference unless you take it apart. don't make the rookie mistake of thinking metal gun with big price tag am bestest! it's simply not true! Ok, but what about endurance wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzuki Yamamoto Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Jourdan S, do you live anywhere near an Airsoft shop? If so, pop in and have a look at the weapons on offer and chat to the store staff to get their opinions. Until you've held an Airsoft rifle in you hands and got a feel for it, it's very hard to gauge what is best for you. Just one thing though, if you live in London, stay away from Wolf Armouries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 Sights: This --> http://www.proairsoftsupplies.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2eproairsoftsupplies%2eco%2euk%2f&WD=mbus&PN=magpul_pts_mbus_2_bk%2ehtml Or this --> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/552-Tactical-Red-Green-Dot-Sight-Airsoft-Gun-Scope-Holographic-551-Alt-/141028500626 Rifles: Spend the extra money and get this --> http://www.proairsoftsupplies.co.uk/acatalog/tr_15_raider_l_top_tech.html Or much less and get this --> http://www.zerooneairsoft.com/product_info.php?cPath=268_318_403_494&products_id=5774 Or (kind of) meet in the middle and get this --> http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/gg-gr15-raider-l-plastic-blow-back-plastic-airsoft-gun-aeg Batterys: This ---> http://www.patrolbase.co.uk/airsoft/vp-racing-battery-9-6b-1600mAh-block-battery.htm + http://www.geniestuff.co.uk/smart-airsoft-charger-with-auto-cut-off.htm Or this --> http://www.patrolbase.co.uk/airsoft/asg-11-1v-1300-25c-lipo-crange-stock-battery.htm Hi guys, this would really help me choose my options, i know its my miney and all, but i would like your opinions please (just select one of each ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 Jourdan S, do you live anywhere near an Airsoft shop? If so, pop in and have a look at the weapons on offer and chat to the store staff to get their opinions. Until you've held an Airsoft rifle in you hands and got a feel for it, it's very hard to gauge what is best for you. Just one thing though, if you live in London, stay away from Wolf Armouries. Haha, you read my mind, i'm actually going to a store today, i know it wont be the best (JustBBGuns Store) but atleast i get a feel of an airsoft rifle etc and stuff, and like you said, ill have a little chit - chat as well. Also for the time being, im only really interested in G&G Rifles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzuki Yamamoto Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Judging by the reviews they do at JustBBguns, i'd take their advice with a rather large pinch of salt. Give the guys a call at ProAirsoftSupplies after you've been to JustBBguns for some proper advice. By all means though, take a thorough look and get a feel of the G&G rifles on show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 Judging by the reviews they do at JustBBguns, i'd take their advice with a rather large pinch of salt. Give the guys a call at ProAirsoftSupplies after you've been to JustBBguns for some proper advice. By all means though, take a thorough look and get a feel of the G&G rifles on show. Thanks Suzuki! Again, you've read my mind I was actually going to contact them aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 Sights: This --> http://www.proairsof..._mbus_2_bk.html Or this --> http://www.ebay.co.u...t-/141028500626 Rifles: Spend the extra money and get this --> http://www.proairsof...l_top_tech.html Or much less and get this --> http://www.zerooneai...roducts_id=5774 Or (kind of) meet in the middle and get this --> http://www.fire-supp...airsoft-gun-aeg Batterys: This ---> http://www.patrolbas...ock-battery.htm + http://www.geniestuf...uto-cut-off.htm Or this --> http://www.patrolbas...ock-battery.htm Hi guys, this would really help me choose my options, i know its my miney and all, but i would like your opinions please (just select one of each ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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