lemon191 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 After a recent visit to the Gaol site I want to put together a gas pistol setup that will work for the evening games. What's your thoughts on the WE glock 17 gen 4 ? Also looking for a mountable torch anyone know anything decent ? Cheaper the better lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elts7 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I like the gaol wed nights. The glock isnt too bad. Thats what they rent out im sure. Can pick a cheap light off amazon for 15 quid or so that'll fit on a rail (not sure if the glock has one) a few mags on a belt with the pistol and you should have a good setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemon191 Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share Posted November 27, 2016 Yeah I borrowed a friends we glock last time and it was world's better than my we co2 m9 which vents gas from every hole lol. As for torch I used a rubbish hand one and it was a pain to change mag etc so would like something mounted.something like this is what I'm looking at , https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00YLV2NR2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480276059&sr=8-1π=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=SyndeRay+CREE+LED+Tactical+Gun+Flashlight+2-Mode+600LM+Pistol+Handgun+Torch+Light+for+Hiking%2CCamping%2CHunting+and+Other+Indoor%2FOutdoor+Activities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elts7 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Yesh thats the light i had. Its not too bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemon191 Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share Posted November 27, 2016 Will give it can't be much worse than the torch I had last time 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl_liverpool Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Yeah I borrowed a friends we glock last time and it was world's better than my we co2 m9 which vents gas from every hole lol. As for torch I used a rubbish hand one and it was a pain to change mag etc so would like something mounted.something like this is what I'm looking at , https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00YLV2NR2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480276059&sr=8-1π=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=SyndeRay+CREE+LED+Tactical+Gun+Flashlight+2-Mode+600LM+Pistol+Handgun+Torch+Light+for+Hiking%2CCamping%2CHunting+and+Other+Indoor%2FOutdoor+Activities My unknown brand m9 doesn't cope well on co2 one shot and it leaks like auto fire on next trigger pull. but great on gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters jcheeseright Posted November 27, 2016 Supporters Share Posted November 27, 2016 TM Glock all the way, the extra £30 is 100% worth it. Regarding lights, can't go wrong with a surefire x300 (or a clone thereof). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechande Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 KWA PTP pistols are very good, great performance (I've got 5). Gas efficient, even in the cold. Real dimensions, so getting a holster is easier (WE is oversized). I prefer them to TM, because they're metal. Best value pistol mounted light in my experience is the Streamlight TLR-1, they can be bought new for £80ish. If you can afford a bit more, £100ish, go for the TLR-1 HL, it's brighter than the X300 Ultra, and considerably cheaper. Streamlight make items for actual firearms use, so you won't have to worry about it falling apart on a GBB like I've experienced in the past with clones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemon191 Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 My unknown brand m9 doesn't cope well on co2 one shot and it leaks like auto fire on next trigger pull. but great on gas. Mine is the WE marine version in tan , looks nice and it's a heavy beast, tried it on some gas I had kicking around which was ultra air and it only really got 1 mag of bbs out with any power so I'm not gonna bother buying more mags for that, hence looking for something different and more reliable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemon191 Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 TM Glock all the way, the extra £30 is 100% worth it. Regarding lights, can't go wrong with a surefire x300 (or a clone thereof). Got to love TM stuff but at £30 more that's nearly the cost of 2 extra mags for the WE. Do the we mags fit TM ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemon191 Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 KWA PTP pistols are very good, great performance (I've got 5). Gas efficient, even in the cold. Real dimensions, so getting a holster is easier (WE is oversized). I prefer them to TM, because they're metal. Best value pistol mounted light in my experience is the Streamlight TLR-1, they can be bought new for £80ish. If you can afford a bit more, £100ish, go for the TLR-1 HL, it's brighter than the X300 Ultra, and considerably cheaper. Streamlight make items for actual firearms use, so you won't have to worry about it falling apart on a GBB like I've experienced in the past with clones. Is being over sized the only negative point of the WE gen 4 ?, not t fussed about metal I'm looking more for gas efficent work horse plus my friends run We glocks so makes sense I run the same incase need a mag in game etc. I'm not to fussed about the plastic holsters as it's going to be a main it is only going to be put away when I'm not in game so quick draw isn't needed. Those torches are a fair way off what I want to pay so might give them a miss lol . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PT247 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Got to love TM stuff but at £30 more that's nearly the cost of 2 extra mags for the WE. Do the we mags fit TM ? yes mate, and I prefer the WE mags to the TM ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemon191 Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 yes mate, and I prefer the WE mags to the TM ones Might look at the TM then and get the we mags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters jcheeseright Posted November 28, 2016 Supporters Share Posted November 28, 2016 Mags are 100% cross compatible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PT247 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Might look at the TM then and get the we mags Is what I run, TM G17 with WE mags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechande Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Is being over sized the only negative point of the WE gen 4 ?, not t fussed about metal I'm looking more for gas efficent work horse plus my friends run We glocks so makes sense I run the same incase need a mag in game etc. I'm not to fussed about the plastic holsters as it's going to be a main it is only going to be put away when I'm not in game so quick draw isn't needed. Those torches are a fair way off what I want to pay so might give them a miss lol . That and not being very gas efficient and almost unusable in the cold, in my experience. The KWA's are very gas efficient, I get at least 2 BB loads on a gas fill when it's cold. In the summer, I've had 4 loads and still lock back. As said, the TM and WE mags are compatible, and if you don't have to worry about dimensions, sounds like TM would be best for you. Torch options are up to you, of course, but you didn't give a budget. In fairness, the TLR is a budget light, the TLR-3 is even cheaper, but they are 'real' lights. I see people regularly go through several cheap lights a year, and often running into problems with cheap switches failing. If you buy 3 crappy lights, you could have just bought one good one that was up to the task to begin with and will, most likely, outlast you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemon191 Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 Torch options are up to you, of course, but you didn't give a budget. In fairness, the TLR is a budget light, the TLR-3 is even cheaper, but they are 'real' lights. I see people regularly go through several cheap lights a year, and often running into problems with cheap switches failing. If you buy 3 crappy lights, you could have just bought one good one that was up to the task to begin with and will, most likely, outlast you. True, highest I guess I wanted to go for a torch would be around £30 but if that's to low for a usable mounted torch I'll stick to a hand one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemon191 Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 Torch options are up to you, of course, but you didn't give a budget. In fairness, the TLR is a budget light, the TLR-3 is even cheaper, but they are 'real' lights. I see people regularly go through several cheap lights a year, and often running into problems with cheap switches failing. If you buy 3 crappy lights, you could have just bought one good one that was up to the task to begin with and will, most likely, outlast you. True, highest I guess I wanted to go for a torch would be around £30 but if that's to low for a usable mounted torch I'll stick to a hand one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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