Shinobi Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 If thats so, that a rip-off, as the real steel sights are made of a higher grade im sure... Yeah, give or take $5. Only problem is there are barely any Magpul Industries MBUS's over here... At least to my knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinobi Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Sights: This --> http://www.proairsof..._mbus_2_bk.html Or this --> http://www.ebay.co.u...t-/141028500626 Rifles: Spend the extra money and get this --> http://www.proairsof...l_top_tech.html Or much less and get this --> http://www.zerooneai...roducts_id=5774 Or (kind of) meet in the middle and get this --> http://www.fire-supp...airsoft-gun-aeg Batterys: This ---> http://www.patrolbas...ock-battery.htm + http://www.geniestuf...uto-cut-off.htm Or this --> http://www.patrolbas...ock-battery.htm Hi guys, this would really help me choose my options, i know its my miney and all, but i would like your opinions please (just select one of each ) Bro, half of that is all personal preference. We might prefer Iron sights, others might prefer Optics. Anyway, don't get a sight. Get an extra 2-3 mags for the money. I'd go CM then you've got spare money for other things, and the Vapex Battery+Charger=Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters jcheeseright Posted August 13, 2013 Supporters Share Posted August 13, 2013 ok, out of those options, get this lot: gun: http://www.zerooneairsoft.com/product_info.php?cPath=268_318_403_494&products_id=5774 Excellent starter gun, will shoot just as far an just as fast as almost any other gun. The internals are rock solid and will put up with years of use (not ABuse though!). Battery: http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/vapex-74v-1450mah-25c-lipo-battery-cranestock-airsot-rechargeable LiPo is the future, no point buying a NiMh and charger now and then in 6 months deciding you want to go LiPo (and you will).. that said, 11.1v will put more strain on your gearbox and make your gun die sooner than it would have otherwise so stick with 7.4 to begin with! You may also want one of these: http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/kong-power-lipo-alarm-111v-and-74v-connectors-included to let you know when you're getting a little low on juice, there are others on the market so have a look around and find one that fits with what you want. Charger: http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/kong-power-battery-charger-support-for-lipo-life-li-ion-nicd-nimh Not the most feature laden charger in the world, but they work and they're relatively cheap! Sights: The iron sights that come with the gun will be more than enough, buying flip-up backup sights is just for looks really, if you really want to spend out on them go for it, if not don't bother! Replica EOTech and aimpoint sights etc can be had for very little on eBay and they're all as good/bad as each other, on an airsoft gun even the worst/cheapest red dot is more than good enough. Again, these are just an affectation really. Other stuff: Magazines... you can go 2 ways with this initially, you can go all out and buy a load of mid-capactity magazines (these don't need winding and don't rattle) but then you'll need a way to carry them all... more expense! Or, you can buy a couple of high-capactity magazines for much less money, have one in the gun and another full one in your pocket.with 2 high-caps you'll be able to carry 600+ shots in magazines and then just have a bag of loose ammo in case that's not enough. http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/socom-gear-noveske-licenced-450rd-m4-hicap-magazine-grey those will do you nicely! Hope that's helped! Alternately if you want to go nuts, get this lot: http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/systema-ptw-training-weapon-m4-a1-max2-m90-2012 http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/kong-power-1300mah-20c-111v-stick-single-pack-lipo-buffer-tube-battery http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/magpul-pts-pmag-systema-ptw-magazine-black http://www.tactical-kit.co.uk/eotech-exps3-0-night-vison-compatible-holographic-weapon-sight-10515-p.asp But bear in mind, that gun won't shoot much further than the G&G Combat Machine... it's still shooting 6mm plastic balls at no more than ~350fps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 ok, out of those options, get this lot: gun: http://www.zerooneairsoft.com/product_info.php?cPath=268_318_403_494&products_id=5774 Excellent starter gun, will shoot just as far an just as fast as almost any other gun. The internals are rock solid and will put up with years of use (not ABuse though!). Battery: http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/vapex-74v-1450mah-25c-lipo-battery-cranestock-airsot-rechargeable LiPo is the future, no point buying a NiMh and charger now and then in 6 months deciding you want to go LiPo (and you will).. that said, 11.1v will put more strain on your gearbox and make your gun die sooner than it would have otherwise so stick with 7.4 to begin with! You may also want one of these: http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/kong-power-lipo-alarm-111v-and-74v-connectors-included to let you know when you're getting a little low on juice, there are others on the market so have a look around and find one that fits with what you want. Charger: http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/kong-power-battery-charger-support-for-lipo-life-li-ion-nicd-nimh Not the most feature laden charger in the world, but they work and they're relatively cheap! Sights: The iron sights that come with the gun will be more than enough, buying flip-up backup sights is just for looks really, if you really want to spend out on them go for it, if not don't bother! Replica EOTech and aimpoint sights etc can be had for very little on eBay and they're all as good/bad as each other, on an airsoft gun even the worst/cheapest red dot is more than good enough. Again, these are just an affectation really. Other stuff: Magazines... you can go 2 ways with this initially, you can go all out and buy a load of mid-capactity magazines (these don't need winding and don't rattle) but then you'll need a way to carry them all... more expense! Or, you can buy a couple of high-capactity magazines for much less money, have one in the gun and another full one in your pocket.with 2 high-caps you'll be able to carry 600+ shots in magazines and then just have a bag of loose ammo in case that's not enough. http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/socom-gear-noveske-licenced-450rd-m4-hicap-magazine-grey those will do you nicely! Hope that's helped! Alternately if you want to go nuts, get this lot: http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/systema-ptw-training-weapon-m4-a1-max2-m90-2012 http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/kong-power-1300mah-20c-111v-stick-single-pack-lipo-buffer-tube-battery http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/magpul-pts-pmag-systema-ptw-magazine-black http://www.tactical-kit.co.uk/eotech-exps3-0-night-vison-compatible-holographic-weapon-sight-10515-p.asp But bear in mind, that gun won't shoot much further than the G&G Combat Machine... it's still shooting 6mm plastic balls at no more than ~350fps! WOW Thanks soo much for your help! With the other things i have in mind, + this = Beatiality! Thanks alot, also just came back from an Airsoft Store and held (pretty much) all the guns, holy crap, some are soo heavy, qiute surprising, anyway heled the Raider L and fell in love with it straight away, thanks this is definite YES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 ok, out of those options, get this lot: gun: http://www.zerooneairsoft.com/product_info.php?cPath=268_318_403_494&products_id=5774 Excellent starter gun, will shoot just as far an just as fast as almost any other gun. The internals are rock solid and will put up with years of use (not ABuse though!). Battery: http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/vapex-74v-1450mah-25c-lipo-battery-cranestock-airsot-rechargeable LiPo is the future, no point buying a NiMh and charger now and then in 6 months deciding you want to go LiPo (and you will).. that said, 11.1v will put more strain on your gearbox and make your gun die sooner than it would have otherwise so stick with 7.4 to begin with! You may also want one of these: http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/kong-power-lipo-alarm-111v-and-74v-connectors-included to let you know when you're getting a little low on juice, there are others on the market so have a look around and find one that fits with what you want. Charger: http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/kong-power-battery-charger-support-for-lipo-life-li-ion-nicd-nimh Not the most feature laden charger in the world, but they work and they're relatively cheap! Sights: The iron sights that come with the gun will be more than enough, buying flip-up backup sights is just for looks really, if you really want to spend out on them go for it, if not don't bother! Replica EOTech and aimpoint sights etc can be had for very little on eBay and they're all as good/bad as each other, on an airsoft gun even the worst/cheapest red dot is more than good enough. Again, these are just an affectation really. Other stuff: Magazines... you can go 2 ways with this initially, you can go all out and buy a load of mid-capactity magazines (these don't need winding and don't rattle) but then you'll need a way to carry them all... more expense! Or, you can buy a couple of high-capactity magazines for much less money, have one in the gun and another full one in your pocket.with 2 high-caps you'll be able to carry 600+ shots in magazines and then just have a bag of loose ammo in case that's not enough. http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/socom-gear-noveske-licenced-450rd-m4-hicap-magazine-grey those will do you nicely! Hope that's helped! Alternately if you want to go nuts, get this lot: http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/systema-ptw-training-weapon-m4-a1-max2-m90-2012 http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/kong-power-1300mah-20c-111v-stick-single-pack-lipo-buffer-tube-battery http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/magpul-pts-pmag-systema-ptw-magazine-black http://www.tactical-kit.co.uk/eotech-exps3-0-night-vison-compatible-holographic-weapon-sight-10515-p.asp But bear in mind, that gun won't shoot much further than the G&G Combat Machine... it's still shooting 6mm plastic balls at no more than ~350fps! Will this mag --> http://www.airsoftworld.net/magpul-masada-pmag-350rd-m4-hi-cap-black-single-mag.html work with the gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 What does this do? http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/kong-power-lipo-alarm-111v-and-74v-connectors-included Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters jcheeseright Posted August 13, 2013 Supporters Share Posted August 13, 2013 it beeps when your battery hits a certain amount of charge and tells you to stop shooting. If you completely discharge a LiPo battery you can damage it. reference the mag, I don't know, best to ask airsoft world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Ian_Gere Posted August 13, 2013 Supporters Share Posted August 13, 2013 Sights: This --> http://www.proairsof..._mbus_2_bk.html ...is a fcuking rip off and, as a noob, you would be mental to buy it. Or this --> http://www.ebay.co.u...t-/141028500626£40 is not a bad price for a 552 replica, but as Shinobi says, 2-3 mags would be more use to you. Have a look through some other peoples' sights before you buy anything. You may find that you prefer aiming over iron sights, so you can watch the trajectory of the BB to adjust your aim, which is much more difficult to do through any optic. Rifles: Spend the extra money and get this --> http://www.proairsof...l_top_tech.html You should see how one of these feels in your hands before buying one. Don't underestimate how much aiming a metal rifle makes your arms ache by the afternoon of a skirmish day. It can literally make you vulnerable and/or less effective / a liability to your team. Or much less and get this --> http://www.zerooneai...roducts_id=5774Get this. Plastic rifles in this price range are far from sh!t. I have a plastic bodied AK47 which I have fallen on, dropped, and had loose in a bag in the back of cars so it's got trodden on. Eventually some flanges on the rear of the receiver where the folding stock attaches got cracked, but the way they are made meant that the stock didn't just fall off anyway. I've super-glued them and had no problems whatsoever. Or (kind of) meet in the middle and get this --> http://www.fire-supp...airsoft-gun-aegBlow back makes more noise and is more moving parts to wear out, but if you like the effect, go for it. You'll need to fire one to see how you like it. Batterys: This ---> http://www.patrolbas...ock-battery.htm + http://www.geniestuf...uto-cut-off.htm A 9.6V battery will wear your gearbox out faster and make you use more BB's since it increases your Rate Of Fire, compared to the 8.4V batteries that most guns, including G&G CM< are designed to use. Battery voltage has no effect on shot power, btw. Also those guns all need Crane Stock batteries, also called 'nunchuck'. You have obviously missed the part of my new guide where I advise you that buying batteries from somewhere other than where you buy your gun will cost you extra P&P, often unnecessarily, because you're thinking of getting a charger from a different place again, adding a 3rd lot of P&P! Or this --> http://www.patrolbas...ock-battery.htmGood lard, no! It's the right shape of battery, but you really don't want an 11.1V battery in a stock AEG as your 1st gun - it will have a stupid ROF and you'll soon need to fix something inside it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinobi Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Oh yeah, forgot that he needed a cranestock... Err, definately not giving away bad info :L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinobi Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Will this mag --> http://www.airsoftworld.net/magpul-masada-pmag-350rd-m4-hi-cap-black-single-mag.html work with the gun? If you read the description, you'd know it does, but yeah, PMAG's fit CM's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 it beeps when your battery hits a certain amount of charge and tells you to stop shooting. If you completely discharge a LiPo battery you can damage it. reference the mag, I don't know, best to ask airsoft world! Ok cool, and Shinobi's got the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 If you read the description, you'd know it does, but yeah, PMAG's fit CM's Thanks, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 ...is a fcuking rip off and, as a noob, you would be mental to buy it. £40 is not a bad price for a 552 replica, but as Shinobi says, 2-3 mags would be more use to you. Have a look through some other peoples' sights before you buy anything. You may find that you prefer aiming over iron sights, so you can watch the trajectory of the BB to adjust your aim, which is much more difficult to do through any optic. You should see how one of these feels in your hands before buying one. Don't underestimate how much aiming a metal rifle makes your arms ache by the afternoon of a skirmish day. It can literally make you vulnerable and/or less effective / a liability to your team. Get this. Plastic rifles in this price range are far from sh!t. I have a plastic bodied AK47 which I have fallen on, dropped, and had loose in a bag in the back of cars so it's got trodden on. Eventually some flanges on the rear of the receiver where the folding stock attaches got cracked, but the way they are made meant that the stock didn't just fall off anyway. I've super-glued them and had no problems whatsoever. Blow back makes more noise and is more moving parts to wear out, but if you like the effect, go for it. You'll need to fire one to see how you like it. A 9.6V battery will wear your gearbox out faster and make you use more BB's since it increases your Rate Of Fire, compared to the 8.4V batteries that most guns, including G&G CM< are designed to use. Battery voltage has no effect on shot power, btw. Also those guns all need Crane Stock batteries, also called 'nunchuck'. You have obviously missed the part of my new guide where I advise you that buying batteries from somewhere other than where you buy your gun will cost you extra P&P, often unnecessarily, because you're thinking of getting a charger from a different place again, adding a 3rd lot of P&P! Good lard, no! It's the right shape of battery, but you really don't want an 11.1V battery in a stock AEG as your 1st gun - it will have a stupid ROF and you'll soon need to fix something inside it... Holy crap, wow, thanks, this info has helped me alot! Ill post everything im getting a little later, and you'll see how i've taken info from this, yet again, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 Is this ---> http://www.zerooneairsoft.com/product_info.php?cPath=268_318_403_494&products_id=5774 Compatible with this --> http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/vapex-74v-1450mah-25c-lipo-battery-cranestock-airsot-rechargeable Is there a adapter is need or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam bussey Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Should work fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters sp00n Posted August 13, 2013 Supporters Share Posted August 13, 2013 Same gun as me (except I got the cooler tan version ) Point to note, I got my battery from zero one 2200mAh iirc, works well but is a tight fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinobi Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Thanks, sorry No worries Mate, just helps to look abit harder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Ian_Gere Posted August 13, 2013 Supporters Share Posted August 13, 2013 Is this ---> http://www.zerooneairsoft.com/product_info.php?cPath=268_318_403_494&products_id=5774 Compatible with this --> http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/vapex-74v-1450mah-25c-lipo-battery-cranestock-airsot-rechargeable Is there a adapter is need or something? Yes it is and. as I said in my noobism guide, you can get it from Component Shop. Here is a charger that will do the job, also from Component Shop, thus saving you P&P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 Yes it is and. as I said in my noobism guide, you can get it from Component Shop. Here is a charger that will do the job, also from Component Shop, thus saving you P&P. So get that Li-Po charger instead of the other one you recommended me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 Same gun as me (except I got the cooler tan version ) Point to note, I got my battery from zero one 2200mAh iirc, works well but is a tight fit Ok, sounds good, and about that 'cooler tan version' haha, your a funny guy ( ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters sp00n Posted August 13, 2013 Supporters Share Posted August 13, 2013 eeeevvvvveeeeeeerrrrryyyyyyy one has black guns .... most of the time thats what i look for lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 eeeevvvvveeeeeeerrrrryyyyyyy one has black guns .... most of the time thats what i look for lol Tell me this, Woodland Skirmishing, Tan Gun; HOWZAT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 Just for looks (maybe) is there (obviously) a silencer that can fit the G&G Combat Machine Raider L, if so, could you give me a link to it please? Thanks, also , after testing out a few Airsoft rifles and my local Airsoft Store, the guns are quite weighty in my hands, and ergonomically, i felt the fore grip, had a big impact and helped me maneuver and use the weapon, could you guys give me any brands (or LINKS!) to a good, tough, reliable fore grip? Thanks once gain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters sp00n Posted August 13, 2013 Supporters Share Posted August 13, 2013 Tell me this, Woodland Skirmishing, Tan Gun; HOWZAT? camouflaged brown gun in an environment with lots of greens/browns i also brake up the silhouette of mine with colored RIS armour any silencer with the correct thread will fitt, i forget if its a 14mm ccw or 14mm cw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan_S Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 camouflaged brown gun in an environment with lots of greens/browns i also brake up the silhouette of mine with colored RIS armour any silencer with the correct thread will fitt, i forget if its a 14mm ccw or 14mm cw Ahaha, thought so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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