Supporters Airsoft-Ed Posted December 11, 2012 Supporters Share Posted December 11, 2012 Perfect? What do you reckon, Ed? Can perfection be had at that price, or any price even? I reckon it could be a good idea to upgrade a gun yourself, if that's your plan. You'll learn loads about how they work and that's got to be good for understanding what sort of gun/s and mods you might want in future. Hmmm, an M4 and a 1911. Sort of like driving a Mondeo in Aviator shades - nothing wrong with it, nothing at all, I just find myself unaccountably thinking of Keith Lemon. Then there's the choice of the Beretta M9 to replace the 1911 (see Ted, even Uncle Sam can't resist a bit of European style... even if, despite going to war several times to champion free markets, the US Govt then interfere in the market and insist that the Beretta name and design is franchised so they can be made in the USA). About seals, I'm sure I've read somewhere that they have been using 416 uppers on their mk18 lowers Y'know... After clicking on quote and attempting to even find the part of Ian's post I wanted to reply to, I've come to the conclusion that he has super powers, because it's hurting my brain too much to try and properly figure out... Additionally, it looks like quotes made in posts I'm quoting, don't appear for me to "quote quote" which is annoying, 'cos to do it properly I'd have to go back and find their comment, to quote it, to quote the response, to write mine. God damn I'm confused now... Anyway, hopefully what I've done with the quotes will SORT OF make sense... First of all, no, I don't think (what I would call) perfection can be had for £500, especially not with an M4 platform. With my L85 the gearbox is well on its way to perfection anyway simply by being so easy to use, but M4s are horrible to work on, to the point where I keep selling mine because I can't face the trauma of doing it lol. There's also a million more options for external accessories, as well as even just body shapes, barrel lengths, stocks and grips. It'll be impossible to ever get it perfect. It's like what people say about art. Or what I say about Minecraft - You can't finish it. There's always something else you can do and you will always, at one point or other, ruin it by trying to make it better. But good luck anyway. Screw M4s... Hate 'em. Second of all, I almost killed myself via boiling kettle to myself, when I read the Keith Lemon thing xD Third of all, on the topic of issue pistols, the US Gov were actually going to use the Sig P226, because it out performed the M9 on every stage of the military testing trials, or so I've heard. So that's another European gun they were going to use. Reason they went for the M9 is because Beretta are bitches and gave the US the licensing rights to manufacturer M9s in the US, simply to get a contract with the US military, where as SIG told them to poo off. At least until recently, since there's now SigARMS and as the trades on the TM P226 point out (much to my annoyance) their 226 is based off an American made one and has the US trades! *cry* British issued guns you say? It's so upsetting. Lastly, Marksman mentioning the USNS, they actually did adopt the Sig. To add to all that, think of all the countries that aren't Russia, using/cloning versions of the AK design. Pakistan make use of the G3 too, as do a ton of other places. But yeah, that's it from me. I feel I might have rendered my quoting almost completely pointless by way of my reply to them, but meh. Blame Ian for quoting a stupid amount and confusing the ever living shit out of me haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Ian_Gere Posted December 11, 2012 Supporters Share Posted December 11, 2012 It's just personal preference. I've never liked them I dont have anything against people that do like them and use them of course.Oh I hate M4 users with a passion and always try to shoot them in the most painful places! Ask Ed, I waste so many opportunities to hit the enemy during a skirmish, just so I can get into position for that perfect M4-user-bell-end shot!Plus aiming with the ironsights when I was using my mask was pretty hard.Really? I've had a problem aiming my L1A1 with a full face mask on, because the rear sight is quite far back so you haven't got any options for head position, but with AK sights being much further forward, I've got more.EDIT: I found it, it was from our very own CKinnerley!I quite like the look of that, except for the stock, although I wish I didn't find tube stocks so aesthetically repulsive, because I'm sure that you get more functionality out of them than any other type. Even though I can reach the flanged end of an AK fire selector with my trigger finger I have one of those LCT tactical ones and they do make it much easier to operate without even a minute movement of the rifle off target. Very off-topic but looks like Ian may well be on the 'Best use of the MultiQuote button' award at the end of the year Impressive post Y'know... After clicking on quote and attempting to even find the part of Ian's post I wanted to reply to, I've come to the conclusion that he has super powers, because it's hurting my brain too much to try and properly figure out...Thanks... I think Well, since you've brought it up, I thought about how I do it and came to the conclusion that rather than using my, notoriously fickle for those of us of the XY persuasion, language centre, I'm using the same linking of concepts to spatial relationships as I would to do a jigsaw or, much more manly-lily*, build a dry stone wall. But you've hit the nail on the head, perhaps inadvertently, Ed... *There's a joke about trannies called Lily in there somewhere, but I just can't be arsed. Make your own... Additionally, it looks like quotes made in posts I'm quoting, don't appear for me to "quote quote" which is annoying, 'cos to do it properly I'd have to go back and find their comment, to quote it, to quote the response, to write mine.... because all I'm doing is remembering that there's "something", and what it is I can then forget, to respond to at particular positions within 1, 2, 3 or 10 posts. All I have to do is quote them and scroll to those positions, rereading from there reminds me what I thought to reply. However, the quotes in someone else's post being missing (same here btw) throws that position recall off... which is a ball ache, Dev.First of all, no, I don't think (what I would call) perfection can be had for £500, especially not with an M4 platform. With my L85 the gearbox is well on its way to perfection anyway simply by being so easy to use, but M4s are horrible to work on, to the point where I keep selling mine because I can't face the trauma of doing it lol.I keep getting tempted to buy a V2 gearbox gun to learn on, an MP5 maybe, but then I remember that I do get pretty downhearted when I've tried say 10 times and still not succeeded. That's the main reason Sabine is still not functional - I've had time recently, but I just can't face anymore disappointment for the time being! It's all very well for Burns and his ilk; it's so 'kin cold up there that "try, try, try again" must be the mantra that allows anyone to get out of bed for a pee rather than just spend winter in deep litter like horses! (Grooms just keep piling more bedding on top of the old and the piss soaks down to the bottom) It's not a gearbox thing though, I've got V3 gearboxes down to a fine art now, partly because I've created a tool to hold the gears still when I close the shell... Uploaded with ImageShack.us It's made from 1 of the strips of steel that come with new windscreen wiper blades (or used to anyway). The curl up end is so that I can squeeze the halves of the shell together tight and still pull the tool out easily. There's also a million more options for external accessories, as well as even just body shapes, barrel lengths, stocks and grips. It'll be impossible to ever get it perfect. It's like what people say about art. Or what I say about Minecraft - You can't finish it. There's always something else you can do and you will always, at one point or other, ruin it by trying to make it better. But good luck anyway.Yeah, that's exactly what's happened to Sabine. I've had her apart so many times and tried so many different bits that I can't actually just put it back how it was because there's damage to the barrel base assembly. I've got a metal hop unit in there though, so in theory at least it should just take some more fiddling to get a rubber/air nozzle combination that works. Like I say though... I just can't take it failing anymore :'(Screw M4s... Hate 'em.+1 But yeah, something to bear in mind, OP, if you are planning on doing your own upgrades.I almost killed myself via boiling kettle to myself, when I read the Keith Lemon thing xDTBH I haven't actually watched any of his stuff, but the ads are enough. He's another dick riding on the apparent mis-correlation of post modern irony and lack of talent, but, despite my nads clenching to have to refer to him, I needed an example that would be relevant even to our youngest readers Ed said, "]Third of all, on the topic of issue pistols, the US Gov were actually going to use the Sig P226, because it out performed the M9 on every stage of the military testing trials, or so I've heard. So that's another European gun they were going to use. Reason they went for the M9 is because Beretta are bitches and gave the US the licensing rights to manufacturer M9s in the US, simply to get a contract with the US military, where as SiG told them to poo off. At least until recently, since there's now SigARMS and as the trades on the TM P226 point out (much to my annoyance) their 226 is based off an American made one and has the US trades! *cry* British issued guns you say? It's so upsetting." It is. I wouldn't be surprised if that is exactly what happened re Sig vs US Govt. I haven't had enough of a go with one to properly judge, but I think the P226 might be a little too small for my hands. That's a weird thing about 1911's though, because they are a pretty big pistol, but the distance from the trigger to the rear of the grip where it goes into the crook of your thumb is quite short. I can get the entire end two joints of my trigger finger through the guard without pulling the trigger. Yeah, I have got long fingers, although not that long (glove size 10). I expect that, for many people, their trigger finger must naturally rest with the inside of the first knuckle against the trigger. Try an experiment, if you would, ppl. Extend your trigger finger pointing ahead and place your other index finger in the crook of the last knuckle. Now pull your imaginary trigger. What happens? Your other index finger moves towards your off side, eh (left if you're right handed)? So when you're holding a pistol, that lateral pressure is going to affect your aim and the longer the gun from the pivot of the trigger to the muzzle, the more it will pull your aim off. Try it again with your other index finger against the pad of your trigger finger tip. Now what happens? The middle knuckle bends out towards your favoured side (right if you're right handed) more than it did previously and the movement of your other index finger to its side is less, it's more straight back, eh? Thus we see that big guns made for girly hands are sh*t. QED. There was a bit about blaming me in here which has become redundant since the error Ahahahahaahahhaahahahahahahaaha! Error: You have posted more than the allowed number of quoted blocks of text!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Airsoft-Ed Posted December 11, 2012 Supporters Share Posted December 11, 2012 Dev, you've got to give it to him now, seriously. Part of me thinks that was all just needless typing just to try and fit as many quotes in there as possible haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters TPI Posted December 11, 2012 Supporters Share Posted December 11, 2012 I Could do it i just don't want to be leaving Mahoosive post's everywhere that and the Spoiler thing to hide part's seem's to Hate me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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