RICHARD-AK47 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 just wanted to ask a basic question really. i dont have my ukara yet so i cant buy a black gun but if someone els buys me a black gun can i use it at the skirmishes even if the person that bought the gun isnt there ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters M_P Posted October 25, 2012 Supporters Share Posted October 25, 2012 Yes, but remember no money can exchange hands unless you have a valid defence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexb111 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Its legal if they have a full UKARA, but if there is any exchange of goods or money (even leaving money lying around for them to take, internet or whatever) it can be used to accuse the 'Seller' and potentially you of illegal activity. Technically ownership is not illegal for example if you had the gun from before the VCRA law. I would ring or go to the site you want to skirmish at before and ask because you can argue with the marshalls all you want that its technically legal but at the end of the day its their site and its their rules with regards to insurance and law. The one site I've been at doesn't ask about UKARA if you bring a RIF and only asks if you want them to put you on the list for registering but this may differ between sites. I would make sure you can contact whoever gifts you the gun though because if the police stop you and ask about it they can and probably will confiscate your gun until their satisfied that its legal and that would ruin your skirmish. http://www.airsoft-forums.co.uk/?showtopic=9772 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICHARD-AK47 Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 Its legal if they have a full UKARA, but if there is any exchange of goods or money (even leaving money lying around for them to take, internet or whatever) it can be used to accuse the 'Seller' and potentially you of illegal activity. Technically ownership is not illegal for example if you had the gun from before the VCRA law. I would ring or go to the site you want to skirmish at before and ask because you can argue with the marshalls all you want that its technically legal but at the end of the day its their site and its their rules with regards to insurance and law. The one site I've been at doesn't ask about UKARA if you bring a RIF and only asks if you want them to put you on the list for registering but this may differ between sites. I would make sure you can contact whoever gifts you the gun though because if the police stop you and ask about it they can and probably will confiscate your gun until their satisfied that its legal and that would ruin your skirmish. http://www.airsoft-forums.co.uk/?showtopic=9772 was only thinking of gettin a black one for my birthday in a few weeks im 24 but dont have my ukara yet and dont wanna be running around with a broght orange gun lol . if i was to turn up to a site with a black gun would they ask me for my ukara membership ? or not really . i also have a gun bag already and would stay in there until i get to the site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam_G Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 was only thinking of gettin a black one for my birthday in a few weeks im 24 but dont have my ukara yet and dont wanna be running around with a broght orange gun lol . if i was to turn up to a site with a black gun would they ask me for my ukara membership ? or not really . i also have a gun bag already and would stay in there until i get to the site No. The VCRA requires you to have a valid defense to purchase a RIF. The only legal requirement to owning a RIF is being over 18. If stopped you would need to prove you have a reason to own it I.E a valid defense against the VCRA. Airsoft is a valid defense so a site membership is fine. UKARA IS NOT A LEGAL REQUIREMENT OF PURCHASING OR OWNING A RIF! I have no UKARA and i own 4 RIFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters TheFull9 Posted October 25, 2012 Supporters Share Posted October 25, 2012 No. The VCRA requires you to have a valid defense to purchase a RIF. The only legal requirement to owning a RIF is being over 18. If stopped you would need to prove you have a reason to own it I.E a valid defense against the VCRA. Airsoft is a valid defense so a site membership is fine. UKARA IS NOT A LEGAL REQUIREMENT OF PURCHASING OR OWNING A RIF! I have no UKARA and i own 4 RIFS. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Richard65 Posted October 26, 2012 Supporters Share Posted October 26, 2012 Do you have to be over 18 to own a RIF? I though you could own one under 18 so long as it was gifted to you - the person who bought it would have to be over 18 and have a defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF-UK Founding Member Deva Posted October 26, 2012 AF-UK Founding Member Share Posted October 26, 2012 You can be any age to own, the restriction is on buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam_G Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Oh my mistake. I thought if under 18 it had to be two tone no matter what? (oh well i am just a tad over 18 so doesn't really apply to me) now i know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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