First night op - tips

[AshOnSnow]

You all seem pretty much in agreement on this one, so perhaps I've misread something

Game Rules (copied and pasted)

Conditions:

Minimum Age 18

For safety – ALL players must be familiar with Com’s Site 3 (ie played at least ONE Skirmish Day)

350fps Maximum for ALL Weapons.

Members – Priority Booking.

Anyone who isn’t sure if their Membership is up to date – please contact us BEFORE Booking is Open! All Non – Members will have to wait until 7:30pm before they can book in.

Any Member who is booking in Non-Members BEFORE 7:30pm as a group booking will be instructed that those players will be placed in a queue if any spaces are available after 7:30pm!

REFUNDS OR CANCELLATIONS WILL BE HONOURED UP TO WEDNESDAY 12TH OF OCTOBER.

Times:

Gate Opens at 4pm – Closes at 5pm. (Please do NOT be late!)

Briefing 5:30pm – Event Starts at 6pm ---> Endex approx 11:30-12:00

Hot Food Served 4pm-5:30pm (Free hot drinks available all evening)

Camping Available please state on booking if required.

We are running a usual Open Skirmish on SUNDAY – please let us know if you wish to take part and we will knock £5 off your Walk On Fee! J (please pay for the Sunday Skirmish on SUNDAY!)

Equipment & Kit Rules:

Pistol and Shotguns ONLY. NO HPA NO ELECTRIC. NO FULL AUTO. NO SNIPERS. NO PYRO, NO BFG's!

Pump Action Shotguns available for Hire (please add £10 if required)

NO PERSONAL TORCHES TO BE USED AT ANY TIME DURING THE EVENT

(However, for SAFETY, you may carry one and use it ONLY in an emergency if required!)

Maximum of TWO Airsoft Weapons may be carried at any one time.

You may use your own Pistol and Shotgun . ** STRICT** Max 350 fps rule and Chrono of ALL weapons will be undertaken. ALL R.I.F.T Airsoft Game Day Regulations will be upheld.

Ammo and Magazine Quantities will be regulated to a MAXIMUM of 5 Pistol Magazines & 10 Multishot Shotgun Shells per Weapon per Scenario (you may reload when we return to SAFEZONE!)

PLEASE REMEMBER GUYS; This is not a Skirmish - use your ammunition wisely!

Melee weapons allowed, 1 per person, nothing dangerous! (Be inventive)

Dress to impress! Look The Part! You are a Professional Fully Trained Member of Bio-Corp Industries with Combat Experience!

NO Joggers, Trainers or Loungewear! Military or PMC Loadout required!

A FULL SAFETY BRIEF & RULES WILL BE GIVEN BEFORE THE START OF THIS EVENT.

 

[Tofan]

Eat carrots, you'll be sorted!

 

[jcheeseright]

I think getting lost and disoriented is part of the aim of the organisers in terms of atmosphere.

idk - i just searched night vision on amazon and clicked the first one that came up: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Armasight-Dual-Tube-Vision-Binocular-Phosphor/dp/B018RQSY6K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1475777338&sr=8-1&keywords=gen+3+night+vision

They'd be great for looking at something about 2 miles away!

 

[TheFull9]

For safety – ALL players must be familiar with Com’s Site 3 (ie played at least ONE Skirmish Day)

It's alright, they got the safety covered with this part. Who wouldn't be able to learn where every single step, random piece of debris, broken floor and protruding pipe is at a site after a single sunday skirmish right?

*le facepalm*

Truly absurd.

 

[AnotherOopsie]

Bought new boots for it a few days ago. I'm not sure if there is an "other" team - it appears to be more of an objective based search and destroy op, rather than a typical team v team.

Although yes - pitch black, no torches and being encouraged to bring our own "inventive" melee weapons does sound like a bit of a recipe for disaster!

Yeah, we played games like capture the flag, also had to take over a small village type area.

Either way, like everyone is saying, a small torch to at least see where you're going at times is a good idea.

Planner chaos and confusion only leads to injury through not being able to see, and anger as I imagine people really will just shoot at anything that moves if everyone is scattered!

 

[AshOnSnow]

Either way, like everyone is saying, a small torch to at least see where you're going at times is a good idea.

Yeah I think taking a torch would get me kicked off the game, since the rules say "NO PERSONAL TORCHES TO BE USED AT ANY TIME DURING THE EVENT" in big red letters.

 

[Greg147]

I'd advise having a word with the organiser and explain your concerns. Tony at RIFT is a very reasonable guy, and I don't believe he'd never knowingly plan a dangerous event.

That particular event isn't a skirmish anyway. It's more of a horror experience, and I expect there's going to be something in place that makes not having a torch less ridiculous. Not that I've ever been to an event like that before, but I have been to RIFT sites countless times and I'm familiar with the organiser. I guess what I'm saying is, ask him, because I'd bet he's got his reasons and has considered the safety implications.

EDIT: Just had a look at the posting again, it says at the top that you get an 'event torch' as part of your game fee. So, chances are you will have one, but it won't be excessively bright (in order to keep the atmosphere scary I guess)

 

[AshOnSnow]

I'd advise having a word with the organiser and explain your concerns. Tony at RIFT is a very reasonable guy, and I don't believe he'd never knowingly plan a dangerous event.

That particular event isn't a skirmish anyway. It's more of a horror experience, and I expect there's going to be something in place that makes not having a torch less ridiculous. Not that I've ever been to an event like that before, but I have been to RIFT sites countless times and I'm familiar with the organiser. I guess what I'm saying is, ask him, because I'd bet he's got his reasons and has considered the safety implications.

EDIT: Just had a look at the posting again, it says at the top that you get an 'event torch' as part of your game fee. So, chances are you will have one, but it won't be excessively bright (in order to keep the atmosphere scary I guess)

Yeah Tony always gives off a good impression - the event torch I believe is just for emergencies, but I might be wrong. I did say above that it was more of an atmosphere game, not a team skrimish thing, so we're unlikely to be running around like nutters. I think maybe some people are under the impression that it's a milsim type thing but nobody's allowed torches which is, yes, ridiculous.

 

[Greg147]

Yeah Tony always gives off a good impression - the event torch I believe is just for emergencies, but I might be wrong. I did say above that it was more of an atmosphere game, not a team skrimish thing, so we're unlikely to be running around like nutters. I think maybe some people are under the impression that it's a milsim type thing but nobody's allowed torches which is, yes, ridiculous.

Sure, an event like this is always going to raise some confusion. My personal interpretation of the rules is no personal torches except for emergencies, but that you'll be provided with an event torch for general usage. I might be completely wrong. The only way to know for certain to ask Tony before you go to make sure you're happy with the safety of the event.

It's worth noting though that this is the second of such event that they've held, and I'd guess they must have considered feedback from the first. I just had a quick search for the old feedback topic, and you can see that complained about too many torches ruining the atmosphere.

http://www.riftairsoft.com/showthread.php?1882-Zombie-Feedback-thread-12-09-2015&highlight=untoten

 

[AnotherOopsie]

Yeah I think taking a torch would get me kicked off the game, since the rules say "NO PERSONAL TORCHES TO BE USED AT ANY TIME DURING THE EVENT" in big red letters.

I didn't say it wouldn't get you kicked off. I simply suggested it for moving to the game area/out of the game area, cause y'know, i'd like my body to remain fully functional.

Like I said in my previous reply, it's not wise to be running around with a torch during the game anyways, suggesting it is would just be contradicting myself.

I can see now after Gregs post about people complaining about too many torches, but in that situation, moving in and out of safe zones to game start areas, I'd be shining it at the floor to see where I'm going and not walking into a deep hole of soft mud and water again.

But then again, it's Scotland, I should be used to it by now!

 

[AshOnSnow]

I didn't say it wouldn't get you kicked off. I simply suggested it for moving to the game area/out of the game area, cause y'know, i'd like my body to remain fully functional.

Like I said in my previous reply, it's not wise to be running around with a torch during the game anyways, suggesting it is would just be contradicting myself.

I can see now after Gregs post about people complaining about too many torches, but in that situation, moving in and out of safe zones to game start areas, I'd be shining it at the floor to see where I'm going and not walking into a deep hole of soft mud and water again.

But then again, it's Scotland, I should be used to it by now!

I've had some more info and I'm under the impression that who would usually be marshals, will be joining us as team leaders, so I expect they'll have a bit more kit in terms of escorting in and out of areas, visibility on players to watch out for injuries and such like.

Going back to the original question of the post, I think the only things I have time to buy are:

Low Profile Laser

Elbow/Knee Pads

Possibly a FAST helmet.

Other than that, I need to get some spare mags for my 226 (only got the 1 at the moment), and some high power gas for the cold climate (I went to buy Guarder Power Up gas, but it was out of stock wherever I looked. Maybe better luck next week). Looks like I probably need to spend another 100 quid in the next week.

 

[Sacarathe]

Be that guy that turns up with 50 chemlights.

 

[callumbagshaw]

Good pair of boots if you don't have already! Easy to roll your ankle in the dark so go steady and have fun mate.

Also, depending how your light conditions are (and if no torches are allowed - i.e. you won't be able to spot the opposition's torches from a way off), consider just taking a pistol (or a small rifle) - no need for a long range rifle when you can only see 10 feet, if that.

 

[AshOnSnow]

Good pair of boots if you don't have already! Easy to roll your ankle in the dark so go steady and have fun mate.

Also, depending how your light conditions are (and if no torches are allowed - i.e. you won't be able to spot the opposition's torches from a way off), consider just taking a pistol (or a small rifle) - no need for a long range rifle when you can only see 10 feet, if that.

No rifles or aegs allowed - only pistols and spring shotguns

Picked up some new boots last week.

 

[Careless]

for night games i thought about buying a couple of LED rechargable portable spot lights and set them up to my adavantage , was never keen on using a gun mounted torch ...

 

[Greg1933]

If only it was feasible

http://www.opticsplanet.com/flir-systems-thermal-night-vision-riflescope.html

 

[AshOnSnow]

Some things that I have bought since making the thread:

- Thermal shirt and bottoms. It's going to be cold. And due to the nature of the game, there could be long periods of time moving slowly or not at all. Just a ubacs and jacket is not going to cut it.

- Yellow-tinted prescription goggles. The yellow tints will (apparently) help visual contrast as it gets darker

- Gloves. I went for fingerless ones since I'm going to be using my pistol almost exclusively, and I'm likely to get taken by surprise at times which means quick draws and fast shots. Less chance of fumbling this way.

- Black camo paint. There is likely a time when I will want to be invisible. Fingers and face are going to match the gear.

- Protein bars. Simple, but probably a decent idea. Not sure if there's a break in the middle or not, otherwise, it's 6 hours solid in the cold.

Have yet to buy:

Elbow and knee pads

Spare pistol mags

Winter gas

FAST helmet (not essential, but preferable)

Melee weapon

Pistol laser

 

[jcheeseright]

Yellow tints work ok during dusk, but at proper night time they just reduce the amount of blue light getting into your eyes. Since you pretty much see in black and white in the dark you want as much light as possible getting in. Clear lenses are the way forward when it's properly dark.

 

[Sacarathe]

I guess, there's no substitute for familiarity with the environment?

 

[djben9]

only played two night games at GMA Tuddenham, both with work colleagues.....it was fun, they all enjoyed it and im sure you will as well at that site

both game nights i used tracer rounds so they knew where i was to shoot at, also the PEQ light and laser helped them aim at me better!.....if you want your team to see you, get one of those light up dog colors and put it on your arm ....yeah we used them as well!

seriously though, i play there once a month and i still would need some form of light to see where im going at times, my boss ran past me, avoided the rubble and barrel but tripped over the tires!.

also, as above, i switched from yellow to clear lenses

you'll have fun though!