lol you should see one of my friend`s not fat but enough meat on his bone`s to give some to me and be perfectly fine But he couldn`t be arsed to push a MTB up a steep hill that allows access to a mountain with MTB trail`s that he Supposedly like`s so aslong as after a 10.5 hour drive in a car you can get out and do that you are in a better postition than he was although he changed his mind to Pilot which in my head = MINDFKED as i was told you need to be even Fitter!