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On 20/08/2020 at 06:25, JUSTICE_RAINS said:

If anybody is wondering about what bucking/nub combinations are good for the MWS, I have experience with four so far - the stock bucking, the Modify Tan + SixG brass nub, the Maple Leaf MR Hop (60 or 70 degree) + Maple Leaf Omega Tensioner/Modify flat nub, and the T-N.T. TR Hop bucking for GBB (60 degree) + Modify flat nub.

 

Stock Bucking + nub:

+Accurate to roughly 40 meters, 50 meters on a good non-windy day and if the target's torso is fully exposed

+Doesn't seem to get dirty too quickly, easy to clean

+/-Decently durable, but you're limited to under 120 MPS/400 FPS

-Can lift up to 0.30's only - nub is too weak

-Feels smooth, not as grippy as Maple Leaf buckings

 

Modify Tan + SixG:

+Very accurate out to 60 meters or so on 1.3 J, 0.30 - 0.36 G BB's (capable of lifting heavier BBs, up to 0.40, decent accuracy out to 70 meters - not sure about 0.45 or 0.48)

+Drop in fit, no need to modify nub - the SixG nub is a good pairing with most buckings on the market

+Works very well in cold weather

-Not very durable

-BBs often curve to either side at the end of travel, some lateral deviation observed

-Limited to under 120 MPS/400 FPS, I would not go above 350 FPS in all honesty

 

Maple Leaf MR Hop + Maple Leaf Omega Tensioner:

+INSANE range, approx. 70-80 meters accurately with 0.40g and heavier BBs @approx. 2.0 J and above 

+Very grippy bucking, decently durable, makes a great seal with the nozzle

+Consistent FPS

+Lateral deviation is noticeably less than Modify Tan/SixG combo

-Omega Tensioner needs to be cut at the front and needs to be perfectly aligned or else your gun will shoot way off

-MR Hop bucking gets dirty quickly due to how grippy it is and is a pain to get squeaky clean (you'll need to strip and clean your bucking/barrel after every game day)

-Very strange issue - has no trouble lazing BBs on semi-auto, but BBs will fall out of the barrel on full auto

 

T-N.T. TR Hop 60 degree + Modify Flat Nub OR T-N.T. standard flat nub:

+Not as much range as MR Hop but even better consistency due to shape of patch, insanely accurate (it outranged most AEGs and I was able to score several cross-map kills)

+Almost 0 lateral deviation

+Doesn't get dirty as quickly, very easy to clean

-Need to cut off front of nub in order to fit inside hop chamber

-Needs teflon tape to seal better and prevent rotation of inner barrel inside hop chamber due to the bucking retaining edge being a bit thin - took more work to get this one right than the other combos

 

 

 

In close to medium range testing (placing shots at roughly 30-40 meters onto a large postcard sized target, about 8x10 inches), the Modify tan combination and the T-N.T. bucking are the most accurate, though at under 30 meters the difference is negligible across all the combinations I've tried and the stock bucking is more than adequate for hitting targets at this range. The main issue I faced with the stock nub and bucking was that it could not lift 0.30s very far unless I was shooting over 1.5 J. In addition, after a while of shooting I noticed a lot of horizontal deviation. I could literally see my BBs making sidespins down to their target and it was getting difficult to thread BBs through small openings.

 

However, past 100 feet is where the MR Hop and the T-N.T. buckings really shine. The MR Hop and the TNT buckings are on another level. The consistency of the T-N.T. from 30-60 meters is better than that of the MR Hop. The MR Hop is a little bit more "grippy." The T-N.T. seems to run cleaner. Both can send 0.40-0.45's out to 250 feet easily. The main issue with the Modify Tan bucking is that it's rated only at 50-60 degree and is not as durable as the TNT or Maple Leaf MR hop bucking. It also has more lateral deviation at long range than the MR Hop or the TNT bucking. There are numerous reports of people's Modify Tan buckings ripping from normal use. I don't see that happening anytime soon with my MR Hop bucking or my T-N.T. buckings.

 

Apologies for the long post. This is just my experience and results may vary from setup to setup.

Did you test the tnt with the brass nub (sixg)? What about best for running at 1 joule /350fps? Really interested in the results. You’re write up is fab by the way and really interesting. Giving me another combo to trial as the tan bucking just fails far too quickly.

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Anyone help please with a resetting hop. Checked the lever and its placed correctly under hop arm and i have checked the hop wheel housing unit is tight and no wobble. It’s only recently happened and I‘ve never had the issue before. Using tm rubber with edgi and brass nub. 

 

Could it be simply the wheel clicker/ wheel has worn out and needs replacing? It still clicks when adjusting but after a few mags its reset back to zero.

 

Look forward to the help

 

Thanks

 

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40 minutes ago, Wild Weasel said:

I know this has been covered before and I can't seem to find any definitive references to it but does anybody own a magpul B,A,D lever? 

Do you recommend one?

Is it rs magpul or a clone?

Did you have to faff about with hacksaws and files for hours to get it to fit?

Does the bolt still lock back reliably without unwinding the castle nut multiple turns?

sorry for rehashing this but I just couldn't find a definitive answer anywhere on Google or this forum and I fancy one.

Thanks troops...

I have a real one and it went on perfectly, no messing at all. Makes mag changes so much slicker and the obvious “i’m Now a proper operator feel”😬😉.  Never had any issues with bolt locking back etc. 

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Cheers fella, will give the file a go! 

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Would appreciate some guidance please as I’m stuck on a magazine issue.

 

the bb follower doesn’t want to sit right to the very top to engage the bolt lock. I have taken the whole mag apart and changed the follower, the bolt catch Mechanism, the bolt catch spring and the bb magazine spring but it still wont go to the very top. If you push down on it a few times it will engage the bolt lock catch but its really stiff as if there is some resistance rather than the normal springiness on the bolt lock latch at the back. Not sure what I’m doing wrong and would appreciate the guidance.

 

Thanks

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20 minutes ago, Wild Weasel said:

I believe the general consensus is it is caused by dirty "non dry lube" causing parts to stick.  If you have a look at wolf's guide to cleaning in the first couple of pages you'll see he uses wurth dry lube and carburettor cleaner to dissolve all the crap and flush out through the trigger, allow it to dry and re lube, I've been using this method from day one and haven't had a problem - give that a go before riving out the box perhaps?

Thanks fella. Will give it a go. 

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Hey fellow MWS warriors, I’m in need of some assistance please:

 

my stock trigger isn’t resetting itself anymore and i have to push it forward slightly to enable it to reset, this doesn’t happen on every shot but not far off.

i’ve recently upgraded to the AG lightweight bolt with nozzle ( I’ve changed the NPAS To my RA tech and buffer piston to the standard TM) I’ve also upgrade the buffer to the g&p and used 2x of the steel weights. 

 

I’ve checked the trigger box and there doesn’t seem to be any broken bb’s etc and given it a squirt of oil. 

 

Could the issue be with the upgraded parts causing the trigger not to reset or is it something else please?

 

Looking forward to the help 

 

thanks 

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3 hours ago, LVOA-D said:

My new love has just arrived! Goes well with my Strike Industries build! Just awaiting the mount, Strike Industries buffer tube and takedown pins

Money bags! That look the nuts!

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don’t forgot the request for your trigger mod @Davegolf 

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36 minutes ago, Davegolf said:

Oh yeh this is old, he's showing where he's filed part of the trigger mech for a less stiff / notchy pull and reset.

I made a very nice drop in replacement trigger bar that made the trigger lovely with a dream reset, but I couldn't make it cheaply enough yet for you guys. one day!

 

Be great to do a Happy Meal style 'tune your MWS' goody box eventually!

 

I need to get another personal MWS, it's just not right without one 🙈

Come on fella, pull your finger out 😉, out of interest how much was the replacement trigger kit? Are you still offering your servicing on the MWS too fella?

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Cheers fella. I think as @Davegolf says stick with the tm. I might try bed the modify accurate in a little more and see if the burrs around the opening Come away ( i know I’m dreaming lol).

On 14/04/2020 at 03:52, Whisky1 said:

So with the lockdown, I've been drilling alot. At first i found the mws trigger to be okay, but after a year of shooting I'm now ready for an upgrade. Does anyone have a review on any triggers? I like the look of the g&p adjustable but thats alot of cash for something that has very little information out about it.

 

My misses decided to record me on the sly so thought I'd share. 😂😂 

 

 

 

Have you seen this? If you can figure out what he’s done please be kind enough to share 😉

 

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=2ahUKEwihp7D9mOvoAhVllFwKHYCeAVkQwqsBMAF6BAgKEAc&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D6on9Cys31Dw&usg=AOvVaw0SxPaOO2KxS-QagBInOwRF

 

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Cheers fella, it was more for long range shots as I was just interested 

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Modify x range, is it worth a go? I’’ve always used the modify tan with the Daves nub but found that they are just ripping too quickly. What degree is everyone using too? Using .32’s but could go heavier. 

 

Thanks in advance and hope your all keeping safe and fettling with those MWS’s