Could this show airsoft in a bad light?

The problem with the cheesewright, is you supply absolutely no information what so ever, all we get is take it form me and an as unsubstantiated claim as seths, which since I've never met you, I'm not willing to take on trust, you could be 12 for all I know. 
No he is serving military and the reason he knows is because this is his area of expertise and what he gets paid for.

 
No he is serving military and the reason he knows is because this is his area of expertise and what he gets paid for.
So he says. Maybe he is. Maybe not.

I don't know him, I don't know you, as much I would like to, and i would like to. 

Do I'm gonna need a little more than trust me, I want to benefit for his expertise but he's keeping stumm.

And what he is telling me, is conflicting with my understanding, and the historical accounts I have read. Which would be incredibly valuable information. 

Our potentially learned friend here warned me about the danger of second hand experience. But he doesn't seem to be supplying anything that can be judged on it's merits. 

 
So he says. Maybe he is. Maybe not.

I don't know him, I don't know you, as much I would like to, and i would like to. 

Do I'm gonna need a little more than trust me, I want to benefit for his expertise but he's keeping stumm.

And what he is telling me, is conflicting with my understanding, and the historical accounts I have read. Which would be incredibly valuable information. 

Our potentially learned friend here warned me about the danger of second hand experience. But he doesn't seem to be supplying anything that can be judged on it's merits. 
I and others have met him in person and he isn't the sort to talk shite. Absolutely no blowhard crap more self deprecating to be honest. 

Nice guy and I would trust what he says without hesitation.

 
So he says. Maybe he is. Maybe not.


If you had been a member here for longer and read a lot of jcheeseright's posts then you would know from them he knows exactly what he's talking about. There's over 4,000 of them to sift through on many subjects. Even if he wasn't actively serving you would know he still knows "exactly" what he's talking about. Go have a read and you may not be so quick to judge.

 
I and others have met him in person and he isn't the sort to talk shite. Absolutely no blowhard crap more self deprecating to be honest. 

Nice guy and I would trust what he says without hesitation.




If you had been a member here for longer and read a lot of jcheeseright's posts then you would know from them he knows exactly what he's talking about. There's over 4,000 of them to sift through on many subjects. Even if he wasn't actively serving you would know he still knows "exactly" what he's talking about. Go have a read and you may not be so quick to judge.
The problem is, I don't know you either Trigger. 

I'm sure he is of fine character, and knows his stuff, I'm sure I'd find many fine posts on many subjects, but that doesn't mean he mightn't be mistaken about this one, no-one is infallible. 

But I am not going throw out 3 entire books worth of material on the subject of "amphibious" campaigning, unless he's going to give me more to worth with than "trust me".

Cheesewright, your information would be very valuable, please supply it. 

 
+1 for Cheese. I've met him in real life. He's the real deal. 

Anyway, this thread has covered a veritable rainbow of subjects. I'd suggest getting back on topic... But I'm not even sure what the topic is anymore.

 
He knows about ASW, fine, but we were talking about the bigger picture.

There was no question of his credentials, at least from me.

 
He knows about ASW, fine, but we were talking about the bigger picture.

There was no question of his credentials, at least from me.
That’s where your wrong. This is an Airsoft forum, we talk about a very niche subject, which is literally the opposite of big picture.

 
That’s where you're wrong. This is an Airsoft forum, we talk about a very niche subject, which is literally the opposite of big picture.


Yes, but it was brought up. People say I don't answer questions.

So do we talk about ASW or not?

 
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Yes, but it was brought up. People say I don't answer questions.

So do we talk about ASW or not?
That’s totally down to @jcheeseright.

Hes tried talking about it and people are not listening. If I were him, I wouldn’t want to talk about it anymore, there’s only so many brick walls a man can talk to before giving up.

 
That’s totally down to @jcheeseright.

Hes tried talking about it and people are not listening. If I were him, I wouldn’t want to talk about it anymore, there’s only so many brick walls a man can talk to before giving up.


It's like saying a truck has got nothing to do with retail, but we're talking about delivering shopping.

Neither party is wrong when the context is provided.

 
Something about YouTubers and balloons and submarines or something?? 


i think if we attatch balloons to nuclear submarines then get a bunch of youtubers to shoot them with airsoft guns it'll make the hobby look bad because kickingmustang will be there firing guided nuprol bb's at people wearing mesh glasses

 
And as for ASW, strategically it does overlap with a land campaign.  However, on a tactical level it clearly does not.  As for my bona fides my Vulipness, I am a currently serving RAF Military Police  Officer whose current posting just happens to involve a major project which has all of the tactical data links that Chesseright mentioned. 

If you don't understand the difference between Tactical, Operational and Strategic levels of warfare may I suggest a quick trip to Staff College?

 
Its going to get lost in the noise but a comment from a pal the other day is very much on topic:

A mate of mine wants to play airsoft and wants to use different guns and not be stuck with a crappy rental so asked me to take him along with a selection of guns he can use. He done a little "research" on you tube and basically said, "theres a lot of cheating in Airsoft isnt there"? 

So to answer the original question, yes. The you tuber battle royal could be bad for airsoft, but its not going to be any worse than what is already out there...  As previously mentioned it could open up a new wave of players who think it looks cool or whatever so the answer to the original question is also no.

So to answer your question, yes and no!!  

Hope this helps :D   

 
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