VFC GBBR - “EU VERSION”

[JimFromHorsham]

Can anyone explain to me the difference between a VFC GBBR and VFC GBBR “EU VERSION” which seem to be a bit cheaper ? 
 

I’ve emailed two retailers both of which have just ignored me and thus ignored my money 😛 

M733 - 

https://highpressureairsoft.co.uk/products/vfc-m733-gbbr-rifle-cybergun-colt-licensed

Flat top EU Version 

https://highpressureairsoft.co.uk/products/vfc-vr933-gbbr-eu-version

 

i don’t seem to be able find anything online , is it a trademark thing ? IE the EU version is a blank receiver ?

[Chev Chelios]

Yup trade mark thing. Stuff marketed to the EU that does not want to pay dues to Umarex.

[JimFromHorsham]

8 minutes ago, Chev Chelios said:

Yup trade mark thing. Stuff marketed to the EU that does not want to pay dues to Umarex.

so are they just completely blank ?  No one seems to have any images online 🤷🏼‍♂️

[EvilMonkee]

Trademarks and potentially inclusion of an NPAS.

[1st commando]

EU version actually refers to the spec . They are zinc bolt carrier AND trigger parts where as the regular version has steel trigger parts . Also EU version usually comes with CO2 magazine

On 14/12/2024 at 17:23, Chev Chelios said:

Yup trade mark thing. Stuff marketed to the EU that does not want to pay dues to Umarex.

Umarex has nothing to do with those rifles as they are not H&K or Glock based 

Edited December 16, 2024 by 1st commando

[JimFromHorsham]

1 hour ago, 1st commando said:

EU version actually refers to the spec . They are zinc bolt carrier AND trigger parts where as the regular version has steel trigger parts . Also EU version usually comes with CO2 magazine

Umarex has nothing to do with those rifles as they are not H&K or Glock based 

very helpful , and for the internals that certainly explains the price difference . 
 

Am I going mad or is there literally zero reviews , images or proper details out there on these ? 

[Chev Chelios]

3 hours ago, 1st commando said:

EU version actually refers to the spec . They are zinc bolt carrier AND trigger parts where as the regular version has steel trigger parts . Also EU version usually comes with CO2 magazine

Umarex has nothing to do with those rifles as they are not H&K or Glock based 

 

https://www.umarex.com/products/airguns/brands/heckler-koch.html 

 

"UMAREX is the world’s largest manufacturer of over-the-counter firearm replicas and the largest importer of air guns in Europe. Founded in 1972, the mid-sized company is now run by the second generation of the two founding families. It has approximately 1,000 employees worldwide. The key to the company’s success has been the acquisition of licenses to build replicas of well-known weapons, which then can be sold without restrictions. Umarex currently holds licenses for the brands Beretta, Browning, Colt, GLOCK, Heckler & Koch, Ruger, Smith & Wesson, IWI and Walther."

 

Not sure where you are getting the parts difference from any info you could link to please?  

 

Edited December 17, 2024 by Chev Chelios

[EvilMonkee]

No, I have never heard of that either re zinc parts.

[GiantKiwi]

It's common VFC bullshit. They make a version for asia with decent components, then alternative markets get costcutting versions - zamak is the Zinc alloy they cheap out on with.

Edited December 19, 2024 by GiantKiwi

[JimFromHorsham]

31 minutes ago, GiantKiwi said:

It's common VFC bullshit. They make a version for asia with decent components, then alternative markets get costcutting versions - zamak is the Zinc alloy they cheap out on with.

which is fair enough because the retail price has been cut too . However … retailers explaining this to the end user seems to be non existent , which irks me .

 

has anyone on here actually seen one though ? Or got one ? Some actual pictures of the externals & internals wouldn’t go amiss 👍🏼 

[GiantKiwi]

8 minutes ago, JimFromHorsham said:

which is fair enough because the retail price has been cut too . However … retailers explaining this to the end user seems to be non existent , which irks me .

 

has anyone on here actually seen one though ? Or got one ? Some actual pictures of the externals & internals wouldn’t go amiss 👍🏼 

 

Quite a lot of the time you play the lottery, as very few retailers are that honest about which version they're selling.

 

HRC discord will have photos, there are VFC fanboys galore on there.

Edited December 19, 2024 by GiantKiwi

[1st commando]

VFC offer the EU spec but unfortunately BZ who imported them didn't relay that information to retailers properly.  VFC still offer regular spec to EU and UK too and other importers still get them.  It's down to BZ to tell people what they are selling them

On 17/12/2024 at 00:38, Chev Chelios said:

 

https://www.umarex.com/products/airguns/brands/heckler-koch.html 

 

"UMAREX is the world’s largest manufacturer of over-the-counter firearm replicas and the largest importer of air guns in Europe. Founded in 1972, the mid-sized company is now run by the second generation of the two founding families. It has approximately 1,000 employees worldwide. The key to the company’s success has been the acquisition of licenses to build replicas of well-known weapons, which then can be sold without restrictions. Umarex currently holds licenses for the brands Beretta, Browning, Colt, GLOCK, Heckler & Koch, Ruger, Smith & Wesson, IWI and Walther."

 

Not sure where you are getting the parts difference from any info you could link to please?  

 

Most of those licenses are for Germany only.  Colt license elsewhere is currently owned by cybergun and vfc has the license for Olympic arms themselves as well as BCM and KAC . None of the EU spec rifles have umarex licensing and in fact most of them have no real.markings at all as it's the "budget range" my advice is to avoid the EU spec budget line unless someone wants something cheaper as a back up or first gbbr.

 

And my info comes from VFC directly (to answer whoever asked). I work in the airsoft manufacturing and distribution industry including with VFC