Lancer Tactical gen 3 v novritsch ssr4

[Bradders13754]

Looking at upgrading my m4 to an ssr4 but saw a you tube vid that the ssr4 is very similar to the lancer Tactical gen 3 and just wondering what everyone's experience of the 2 is and the differences? 😁👍

Edited February 11, 2023 by Bradders13754

[Fatboy40]

A Double Eagle M900 is more of an "upgrade" than an SSR4.

[Bradders13754]

Did look at that a while ago but couldn't find one 

[RostokMcSpoons]

1 hour ago, Bradders13754 said:

Did look at that a while ago but couldn't find one 

The Novritsch looks nice enough, but it's marked as 'out of stock' for both the polymer (EUR 229) and metal (EUR 299) variants.   So unless you're prepared to wait for them, DE would seem to be the best bet.

 

Amazingly enough, BBguns4less seem to have been consistent for a while in actually having DE's in stock...
https://bbguns4less.co.uk/products/double-eagle-m907d-ar15-rifle-with-falcon-system-in-black.html

 

Here's the shorter. less expensive variant that I run (and has been great for me)

£189 is about as cheap as it's been anywhere for a couple of years now.
https://bbguns4less.co.uk/products/double-eagle-m906c-ar15-rifle-with-falcon-system-in-black.html

 

If you'd rather go with Patrolbase, they have this one
https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/airsoft-m4-ar15-m16-variant-assault-rifles?*brand=61&*inst=y

 

Edit:

The only thing that a couple of us have had issue with is that the stock spring seems to become weak and inconsistent fairly quickly.     Thanks to the fact springs are cheap (get an M105 for £10) and the Quick Change system works beautifully, its' a super-simple fix.
 

(The motor also tends to get a bit toasty on extended full auto fire, so some day I'll get around to changing mine.  While it works though I'll leave it as-is!)

 

Edit: 

I see the Rate Of Fire on the Novritsch is a big step up from the DE's.  That and 'pre-cocking' seem to be the main advantages over the DEs.  My 906 runs at about 16rps on 11.1v, so it's not a massive gap, but the choice is yours...

Edited February 11, 2023 by RostokMcSpoons

[Fatboy40]

16 minutes ago, RostokMcSpoons said:

(The motor also tends to get a bit toasty on extended full auto fire, so some day I'll get around to changing mine.  While it works though I'll leave it as-is!)

 

@RostokMcSpoons Stonking motor for the price...

 

https://www.ak2m4.co.uk/internal-parts/motors-parts/xt-high-torque-motor-22tpa-long-fan

 

... got one in all of my DE M900's now 👍

[RostokMcSpoons]

4 minutes ago, Fatboy40 said:

 

@RostokMcSpoons Stonking motor for the price...

 

https://www.ak2m4.co.uk/internal-parts/motors-parts/xt-high-torque-motor-22tpa-long-fan

 

... got one in all of my DE M900's now 👍

 

Excellent - a straight drop-in?   I wouldn't need to adjust the shimming would I?   I don't want to open the gearbox when it's been so reliable so far.
Does it affect the responsiveness or RoF either way?  The product description would suggest not.

Edited February 11, 2023 by RostokMcSpoons

[Fatboy40]

6 hours ago, RostokMcSpoons said:

Excellent - a straight drop-in?   I wouldn't need to adjust the shimming would I?   I don't want to open the gearbox when it's been so reliable so far.
Does it affect the responsiveness or RoF either way?  The product description would suggest not.

 

Drops straight in, I've not had to alter the motor height for any of them.

 

I've had a noticeable improvement in trigger response on semi, the torque difference is night and day, and a tiny improvement on RoF. DE told me that the stock Chaoli motor is 19,000 RPM, however they didn't say at what voltage, and I use 11.1v.

Edited February 11, 2023 by Fatboy40