Socky Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Hi everyone, I have asked a lot of these questions in the past, but always prefer to be on the safe side. So I did a UKARA self check today and was told the UKARA expired last week - does this now mean *strictly speaking* to make the sale would be illegal? Socky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 How did you do the self check? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socky Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, rocketdogbert said: How did you do the self check? I rang up fire support earlier today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Fair enough. So,you checking your own or someone else’s? Anyone, UKARA is only one of a multitude of defences, so we’ll need some more details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socky Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 Someone else's, UKARA is all they have sadly so thats all i can go off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, Socky said: Someone else's, UKARA is all they have sadly so thats all i can go off Your call then, if you’re satisfied they’re a genuine airsofter, fine. Any doubts, not fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted September 12, 2018 Supporters Share Posted September 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Socky said: does this now mean *strictly speaking* to make the sale would be illegal Strictly speaking - the best kind of speaking - it's illegal with or without a UKARA. A person is guilty of an offence if he sells a realistic imitation firearm. If charged, it shall be a defence to show that the conduct was for the purpose only of making the imitation firearm in question available for [a variety of reasons, one of which is] the organisation and holding of permitted activities, which (probably) refers to airsoft skirmishing. The reason that I'm linking directly to the Act, the Regulations and the explanatory notes is that - strictly speaking - there's no unambiguous answer to your question, since there's no case law on this that we're aware of. For my own part, I'll note that UKARA only provides some indication of what a buyer has done, not what they will do, and it's a curious defence which requires the seller to predict the future. A player could do 3 days in 2 months, then go 365 days without playing again, and still be assumed (by UKARA) to be an active skirmisher. That's a bit of a stretch to adducing a defence "for the purposes only of" airsoft skirmishing. But the tl;dr version is anyone who's managed to ever get a UKARA is unlikely to be a person who'll do something with a RIF that will bring it to the attention of the State. That means that in practice it's just not going to be an issue for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socky Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 Thank you guys appreciate the help - in that case ill have a think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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