PopRocket123 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I'm looking to get my first airsoft rifle before too long. APS's ASR 114 SPYDER with 10" keymod rail ystem has caught my eye. Does anyone have any advice, recommendations, warnings or alternatives? Any and all help is greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PT247 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 how much is it costing?I had an APS Mini Patriot and it was awesome a few years back for the price, things have moved on now though and so has the tech. If your budget allows I'd suggest a Krytac CRB or SPR if you like the looks of this one, if you are liking the silver outer barrel, it is just paint so is something you could do yourself to anything you got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopRocket123 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 how much is it costing? I had an APS Mini Patriot and it was awesome a few years back for the price, things have moved on now though and so has the tech. If your budget allows I'd suggest a Krytac CRB or SPR if you like the looks of this one, if you are liking the silver outer barrel, it is just paint so is something you could do yourself to anything you got. I was actually planning on painting the outer barrel and replacing the muzzlebreak anyway so that's not a problem. Thanks for the pointer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopRocket123 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 how much is it costing? I had an APS Mini Patriot and it was awesome a few years back for the price, things have moved on now though and so has the tech. If your budget allows I'd suggest a Krytac CRB or SPR if you like the looks of this one, if you are liking the silver outer barrel, it is just paint so is something you could do yourself to anything you got. I was seeing one at a reduced price for £180 but they're normally around £220 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PT247 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I was warned against the APS range but loved mine, they have very loose tolerances so upgrading is very hit and miss although out the box my Patriot was shooting 323+/- 3 fps, had a very good hop and the barrel wasn't crap either. I upgraded the barrel which bumped the fps a tad and also improved accuracy. I messed with the hop which failed, I messed with the shimming which also failed. At £180 it is a lot of gun for the money, it may not last as long as others though but IMO will shoot better than a G&G Combat Machine but not better than a Krytac Trident! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopRocket123 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 Not bad for a starter gun then. one problem I have had is that I can't find the specific magazines it ships with anywhere though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PT247 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 It is an M4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tleigh92 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I've heard very very very few good things about APS. They either rattle themselves to death with the recoil or the gears just grind themselves down. I wanted one in the past myself and I'd love to hear good things about them because they look cool. If you get one do let us know how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopRocket123 Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 It is an M4 The one it comes with is a particular one though that I've not been able to track down. They're just ones you can prewind so you don't have to keep stopping to wind up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PT247 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 The one it comes with is a particular one though that I've not been able to track down. They're just ones you can prewind so you don't have to keep stopping to wind up it is just a hi-cap, you should be pre-winding any hi-cap you use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopRocket123 Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 it is just a hi-cap, you should be pre-winding any hi-cap you use. No I mean they prewind every BB in the mag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopRocket123 Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 Ah at this point I may as well save for a Krytac Trident. Thanks for the advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PT247 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 No I mean they prewind every BB in the mag ahh got ya. TBH, all my hi-caps (except my 850 round fat mag) only require winding fully once except sometimes have a few stragglers in the mag. The Krytac guns will be a world better than most others out there if you are able to find the dosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callumbagshaw Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 +1 for the krytac suggestions, I'm an advocate of them. As for the pre-winding mags, flash mags are a similar concept but it's a pull chord, not a wheel - but pulling the chord 5 or 6 times generally loads either all, or nearly all of the bbs in the mag ready for firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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