Well-known airsoft team banned from ALL US Milsim sites

TPI, if you had said that to an army vet he would most prob laugh in your face and say "Son, Ive already killed people for less" (Its what my old teacher always used to say at least)

 
that's not the point Sheriff, Mcknight and his Bum Brigade at the OLCS went off on GMR and got physical aswell as abusive before GMR did yet OLCS claimed it was GMR!

 
Regardless of how this incident happened they're still knobs.

They have a hugely bad reputation from.all the other stuff regardless.

Tpi, i don't see why you still like them, in this particular incident maybe they were the innocent side, maybe they weren't but as a group of individuals who break the fundamental rules of the game, I don't see why you would support them.

 
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I still like them because people in airsoft claim it's for the 'Realism' yet play like its Xball, They then cry like little girls about it not being Real enough and Bag on Manufacturers for not making something more realistic while using High Cap's (Almost double the amount you carry in a PB Hopper!)

I like them because their not pussy footing around and being afraid to get hurt (Seriously when I was 6 I was climbing out of windows on the second floor and jumping onto sun baked earth sure my ankles hurt like fuck if I messed up but I still learned from it and avoided making the same mistake twice I've even crawled through broken glass when I was younger with no shirt on while playing games)

I Like them Because their not telling other's what to do or putting them in danger apart from people who copy them with absolutley no idea

I like them because they think outside the box (Collapsible Assault Ladders, Collapsible assault bicycles are the thing's in which you are refering to M_P or rather which OLCS had problems with in the past)

I like them because their not all boring as fuck PC Be safe patronising Zombies

I like them & Still support their reaction to this OLCS incident because it was sold to them under the Pretence of MilSim not FilmSim

 
I dont hate them because they do that stuff tpi. I support it.

What we mean, is that by them doing such, on a public site where the insurance is a pain in the ass as it is. When they go beyond the area they are allowed. and yes while they do it in the name of realism, if they get hurt, or some one copies them in what they are doing and get hurt. Their actions could risk the site getting shut or further restrictions made to the sport on H&S grounds.

Fcuk, If I had my own private land, with no need for insurance cover Id probably set up massive landmines made from C02 cans, build stuff I could jump off and other stuff to make for one epic game.

But the world is a fucktard of a place, so you have to take into account of what BS will happen when people dont follow the rules at offical public games.

 
Just thought I'd point something out: GMR (people with 0 real military experience most likely) using proper military hand signals in front of a real Army veteran...............just looks wrong in my opinion. :blink:

 
Granted Sheriff H&S is an Issue, Then again when your aware of how to do something properly H&S become's pointless because you have Limited the risk it's the Moron's who Copy them with absolutly no Fupping idea! that need to be told not to do thing's not those of us who do!

@Adam i thought you are aloud to push away from a tiny road in the Military to Crush OpFor? & Watch the Video and Listen to the GMR PodCast aswell as the OLCS Interview and statement's before telling me the 'Chain of Command' was fit to lead a piss up in a brewery! aswell as GMR Following it when told to!

@Dan I do believe some of them have Served aswell as a few Original Members having Served

 
TPI said:
Granted Sheriff H&S is an Issue, Then again when your aware of how to do something properly H&S become's pointless because you have Limited the risk it's the Moron's who Copy them with absolutly no Fupping idea! that need to be told not to do thing's not those of us who do!

@Adam i thought you are aloud to push away from a tiny road in the Military to Crush OpFor? & Watch the Video and Listen to the GMR PodCast aswell as the OLCS Interview and statement's before telling me the 'Chain of Command' was fit to lead a piss up in a brewery! aswell as GMR Following it when told to!

@Dan I do believe some of them have Served aswell as a few Original Members having Served
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if your commander is telling you to get to the front and stop messing about at the back of the convoy you do as he says in the army so if they really want realism then they have to take orders.

 
I actually thought the tactical folding bicycles GMR thought of was a brilliant idea.

You have to admire the coordination and teamwork they have though.

 
They did and that's when they were Ordered to LEAVE the site, The time before that they did and got told off by another OLCS about being on the wrong side of the road because a second OLCS member told them completely different!

 
TPI said:
They did and that's when they were Ordered to LEAVE the site, The time before that they did and got told off by another OLCS about being on the wrong side of the road because a second OLCS member told them completely different!
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they only did so after a very long winded argument

 
Wow Adam Really? did you actually pay attention to the Video? to the GMR Podcast? I'm Stunned into utter amazement if an arguement that last's less than 5 Minute's is a 'Very long Winded' Argument of course if you have Evidence to the contrary Produce it already!

 
adam bussey said:
in milsim there is a chain of command and they should follow it!
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Fucking this, you sign up for the event knowing that there is a chain of command, and you damn well follow it. Imagine if you'd done something like that IRL.

 
Chippins said:
Fucking this, you sign up for the event knowing that there is a chain of command, and you damn well follow it. Imagine if you'd done something like that IRL.
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Yeah, I 100% agree. BUT! Where Adam is wrong, is in the fact that a marshal isn't there to command you. They are there to ensure the players obey the rules of the game. Take their hits etc.

Following rules shouldn't involve making people go a certain way and do a certain thing.

I'm not taking any sides, just responding to this chain of command thing.

 
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Adam, are you aware that the obligation of a soldier is to follow all legal orders given to them within their chain of command? It is not to follow any order given by a superior at any time or under any circumstances. It may not seem right to some people, but in reality a soldier has an obligation to ascertain that any order given is legal and from their proper chain of command if s/he has any doubts.

Remember "I was only following orders." is no defence.

 
Airsoft-Ed said:
Yeah, I 100% agree. BUT! Where Adam is wrong, is in the fact that a marshal isn't there to command you. They are there to ensure the players obey the rules of the game. Take their hits etc.

Following rules shouldn't involve making people go a certain way and do a certain thing.

I'm not taking any sides, just responding to this chain of command thing.
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He wasnt a marshal, he was the US sides CO for the day, everyone playing signed a disclaimer saying that essentially said you have to follow orders or else you can fuck off home, or something to that effect.

Ian_Gere said:
Adam,

are you aware that the obligation of a soldier is to follow all legal

orders given to them within their chain of command? It is not to follow

any order given by a superior at any time or under any circumstances. It

may not seem right to some people, but in reality a soldier has an

obligation to ascertain that any order given is legal and from their

proper chain of command if s/he has any doubts.

Remember "I was only following orders." is no defence.
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Also, you are not helping out at the back, go clear these buildings, (unless you are fairly sure that it's a suicide mission) is hardly one of those orders that invokes that right to say nope, not doing it.

 
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Tpi, I never mentioned bikes? I was referring to them going out of bounds and not taking hits.

 
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