Trying to sell a RIF but am I doing it wrong?

[Albiscuit]

You nee to be satisfied they have a defense, and it is as dubious as it sounds. I have only just joined the UKARA scheme as my site membership gets me on there, but have 7 RIFS, always had a good enough defense to buy new or second hand!

Pictures, or receipts of game bookings will count as a defense too, hell being a regular on here can be argued as a defense too, as long as YOU feel confident they are buying it for a legitimate reason, plinking or skirmishing etc (and are over 18) then you should be satisfied and sell!

 

[L3wisD]

I'm always dubious of people supplying photos of them playing.

How easy would it be to nab a handful of photos from a Facebook page to pass off as themselves?

Especially if the photos are a guy in full face.

I dunno *shrug*

 

[Gepard]

I'm always dubious of people supplying photos of them playing.

How easy would it be to nab a handful of photos from a Facebook page to pass off as themselves?

Especially if the photos are a guy in full face.

I dunno *shrug*

Ask for link to the Facebook page, check dates, message site to confirm the user is an active player.

Full face pro could be tricky but they should be able to tell you who's who if they're a regular at that site. 

You can also check the dates within the photos themselves. Download them, right click, properties and then 'date created'.

 

[L3wisD]

Yeah, but whose got the time for all that CSI malarkey

 

[Gepard]

You could always ask for their UKARA 'licence' and gauge their reaction.  :lol:

 

[Samurai]

Ask for link to the Facebook page,...

I don't put anything airsoft on my FB page.

 

[Sitting Duck]

I don't put anything airsoft on my FB page.

I don't even have my own personal real FB

too much digital footprint, employers and who knows who, get to glance at who/what you are up to

(I know there is settings and stuff but be careful what you share n stuff)

Employers will look up potential/existing employees and check what weird hobbies/political views/family weirdo's

Some players have had a quiet word about employers concerns about guns & shooting crap & company image

Coz all of us are weirdo's preparing for the next civil war, or wannabee nutters with guns ready to flip out

Or unemployable coz of the way we voted for Brexit/GE etc......

Nahhhhh, gotta be a little bit careful of what you share, many think us peew peew lot are weird

(correct in my case)

But honestly - some stuff you share even toy plinky stuff "can" come back to bite ya ar$e

if it upsets snowflake employers or the companies potential customers/partners/image

 

[Gepard]

The sites I play at upload photos of each game to their Facebook page - which is where the idea came from. I don't have any photos of me playing on my personal Facebook, nor do I tag myself in any of the photos where I am seen playing. But then I only use the service for messaging anyway. Now I spend more time on AF-UK then I ever did on FB.  :lol:

https://www.facebook.com/Alpha55Airsoft

 

[Samurai]

I don't even have my own personal real FB

That's also suspicious.

I have some photos with my kids, some funny stuff, star wars trailers, safe things. Nothing links me to those serial killings...

 

[Gepard]

Ooh, speaking of Star Wars - Han Solo trailer came out today didn't it? I've gotta watch that at some point. 

 

[Arwen]

I only recently went back to facebook... left it for a good 5 years cause I was fed up of family politics on it. Returned and now have some pew-related nonsense on it, but it's all locked down. Granted my bosses are friends with me on it, but they are cool and find it amusing when I come to work on a Monday morning walking funny cause I got shot too much or fell down a trench again  :lol:

Ooh, speaking of Star Wars - Han Solo trailer came out today didn't it? I've gotta watch that at some point. 

By the looks of it, it has "cool" gangster baddies, a train heist, tiny lightsabers, a shouting wookiee and a comedic robot. Oh, and Emilia Clarke, so it should be good 

 

[Sitting Duck]

That's also suspicious.

I have some photos with my kids, some funny stuff, star wars trailers, safe things. Nothing links me to those serial killings...

Seen too much abuse on FB, some of it really nasty and personal....

Long story short, geezer gives me loads of abuse and BS

(abuse is one thing but BS - now THAT I'm an expert in)

Without going into detail about stuff - he got $hitty - I got $hitty

he has last word & blocks me - sod that.....

10 mins later I can see all his failed businesses at company's house

the registered address/house he lives in on google maps etc.....

Not that I am going to bother with anything, the failed/wound up businesses listed

gave me an idea of his business integrity perhaps and found it quite ironic

(without going into detail of what the row was about - nope not political at all in fact)

All I'm saying be careful what additional stuff you personally share on social media

 

[Rogerborg]

You could always ask for their UKARA 'licence' and gauge their reaction.  :lol:

And if they start ranting that "It's not a licence!" then they're probably legit?  

 

[Gepard]

And if they start ranting that "It's not a licence!" then they're probably legit?  

 

[Countryman]

Buddy you are looking for a defence to cover your bum selling a toy gun. You are not the Police.

You could have my name, my email address, a physical address for delivery if you are posting and my UKARA number. Copy documents you could "jog on"

 

[proffrink]

I think he's got the point by now

 

[Rogerborg]

I think he's got the point by now

But it's so much easier to kick someone when they're already down.

 

[Apoch]

Buddy you are looking for a defence to cover your bum selling a toy gun. You are not the Police.

You could have my name, my email address, a physical address for delivery if you are posting and my UKARA number. Copy documents you could "jog on"

Correct fella a toy gun which under British law is illegal.

Illegal in my world is not good. 

 

[Dentonboy]

Correct fella a toy gun which under British law is illegal.

Illegal in my world is not good. 

Well, not illegal... Unless all of us on here are in some sort of underground cabal... Just restricted, like alcohol and sweet, sweet solvents... 

 

[Countryman]

Illegal to sell. Illegal to make. Illegal to import but not illegal to own.

UKARA is only a Defence for the seller. So it’s illegal to sell anyway if you want to get up tight about it. There is no case law.

The RIF is not recorded, has no serial number and would be tough to trace. You as an individual have no way of checking UKARA Number. 

You must do do what you feel is right to protect the sport but if you sell in good faith to an adult who says they are a skirmisher with a UKARA Number I cannot seriously imagine the CPS being remotely interested in your prosecution.

The fact you want a copy of his Passport is admirable. Has absolutely nothing to add to your defence.