Canada Threatening to Ban Airsoft

[GenuineGerman]

I have said for years now that the writing is on the wall.the time is coming whereby all guns will be banned and it started with the terrible Dunblane event.

The powers that be do not want the general public to have anything that could be used to show any form of resistance to the power of the forces of law and order. 

Every time I read or hear on news that some one has used a gun illegally or shot a friend in the leg while 'playing with airgun' or neighbour calls police because you have been plinking at targets in back garden with a 'nasty looking weapon,' then I think "That's another nail in the airsoft coffin" and when the police have enough incidents to put before Parliament they will say " ok,enough,hand em all in"

The writing is on the wall......

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Regards 

Completely agree, until we are all unquestioning drones they will ban everything that shows individuality 

 

[Adolf Hamster]

I have said for years now that the writing is on the wall.the time is coming whereby all guns will be banned and it started with the terrible Dunblane event.

The powers that be do not want the general public to have anything that could be used to show any form of resistance to the power of the forces of law and order. 

Every time I read or hear on news that some one has used a gun illegally or shot a friend in the leg while 'playing with airgun' or neighbour calls police because you have been plinking at targets in back garden with a 'nasty looking weapon,' then I think "That's another nail in the airsoft coffin" and when the police have enough incidents to put before Parliament they will say " ok,enough,hand em all in"

The writing is on the wall......

☹

Regards 

this is why image is so important.

it's why folk care about for example the "big" airsoft youtubers because that's the image that the world is gonna see whenever it wants to take a look at airsoft, and given the attitudes against guns and gun-like pursuits it's probably not the wisest idea to give them the kindling.

better the world think us a sad bunch of larping nerds than anything that can be considered a threat, but every fights and flipouts video, every dsg justice, every 500fps to the balls clickbait video is doing its work to cement our hobby as an aggresive, violent pursuit that breeds harmful behaviour regardless of the reality.

funny i was chatting to a mate the other day, given under lockdown i'd been having second thoughts about wether i really wanted to keep airsoft going and a big part of the argument is it would be so liberating to have a hobby when i don't have to be so surreptitious and secretive about what i do for fun, something that didn't need to be explained to people etc.

 

[Shamal]

Completely agree, until we are all unquestioning drones they will ban everything that shows individuality 

Exactly that. That is the crux of it all. Thinking individuals are not welcome!

 

[EDcase]

I don't think its anything to do with individuality.  Its the perceived threat from gun loving military types who could be unhinged and threaten the 'good' people of the country.

So we all have the responsibility to keep our hobby in good light.  Too many incidents where Police are involved will grab the attention of lawmakers/politicians who then seek a ban as a way to show the 'good' voting population that they are protecting the country from a minority of crazy types.

Its all about policies to gain the favour of the voting majority.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

So we all have the responsibility to keep our hobby in good light.  Too many incidents where Police are involved will grab the attention of lawmakers/politicians who then seek a ban as a way to show the 'good' voting population that they are protecting the country from a minority of crazy types.

yep, like it or not we're the bad guys, at least when it comes to politics.

 

[EDcase]

yep, like it or not we're the bad guys, at least when it comes to politics.

Yeah,  think about it.

What do we look like to everyone who doesn't know about airsoft...?

A. (Scary) Big kids playing soldiers in the woods. (damaging the environment)

B. The UK version of Republican gun loving prepper red neck wanabees

Reenactors are regarded more highly because they are like historical actors who entertain and also benefit charities.

I think if airsoft were more involved with charity work ie rasing funds with competitions etc we 'd have more of an argument that we are beneficial to society.

 

[Shamal]

Yeah,  think about it.

What do we look like to everyone who doesn't know about airsoft...?

A. Big scary kids playing soldiers in the woods.

B. The UK version of Republican gun toting prepper red neck wanabees

Reenactors are regarded more highly because they are like historical actors who entertain and also benefit charities

I think to outsiders we look like A+B lol

 

[GenuineGerman]

I think if airsoft were more involved with charity work ie rasing funds with competitions etc we 'd have more of an argument that we are beneficial to society.

I think this a really good point and would help put the sport in a very positive light. 

 

[Adolf Hamster]

A. (Scary) Big kids playing soldiers in the woods. (damaging the environment)

B. The UK version of Republican gun toting prepper red neck wanabees

yep, and nobody cares to ask what the scary big kid soldier does when he goes home.

they probably assume we spend all our time cradling our rifles muttering "soon my precious, soon" or some bs to that effect.

Reenactors are regarded more highly because they are like historical actors who entertain and also benefit charities.

i think re-enactors get away with a lot because of the history element, people value history.

I think if airsoft were more involved with charity work ie rasing funds with competitions etc we 'd have more of an argument that we are beneficial to society.

a nice thought, but i can't really see it happening on a wide enough scale, it's just too disorganized.

i think the first step needs to be proper organisation, having an internal governing body that can both advocate to the outside and regulate the inside.

would certainly add some legitimacy and stability to the hobby rather than relying on site owners making shit up as they go along.

 

[Shamal]

I'm thinking sponsored bb blast-a-thon.£1 for every hi cap mag emptied in five minutes.

Guess how many bb's in a 2litre lemonade bottle.(to the nearest 50)

Tie the terrorist to the tree. Stand a willing volunteer against tree and charge £5 a go for public to empty low cap at him.

Blow the Teddy out of the box.

£3 a go to throw mk5 at Teddy.

Bit light hearted and by no means having a pop at @EDcase. I think his idea could have some merit if a bit of thought is put into it. ??

 

[padraigthesniper]

I dont think we should have to justify wanting to play airsoft or even paintball for that matter to anyone. We are supposed to be free people cant we play a silly game with fake guns how silly is it to be afraid of fake guns. Firearms being campaigned against is one thing but toy guns wielded by mostly out of shape gamers that fire plastic balls, really canada really. Canadians are friendly asf from my understanding how much airsoft related crime is there ?‍? 

Any politician from any country stupid enough to not know the difference between a toy and a gun should be sacked and ridiculed. 

I think the more popular airsoft gets the better if we can get it to the point where people watch it on youtube as much as video games, a lot of the silly ideas about it can be thrown out the window.

Power to the peopel!! just keep it under one joule ?

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Canadians are friendly

google "killdozer"

they ain't all freindly.....

 

[Tackle]

google "killdozer"

they ain't all freindly.....

Heemeyer was American not Canadian ?

 

[hitmanNo2]

they probably assume we spend all our time cradling our rifles muttering "soon my precious, soon" or some bs to that effect.

Sitting on the toilet packing a mag "Six millimetre.  Fully bio degradable"

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Heemeyer was American not Canadian ?

was he?

can't say i've ever looked that far into that incident, i just know he's the canadian version of ned kelly

 

[Druid799]

Completely agree, until we are all unquestioning drones they will ban everything that shows individuality 

Unfortunately due to the way society has on the whole turned against anyone having an individual opinion that doesn’t fit the accepted/fashionable ‘norm’ we do need to think how even just the wording of our replies to these topics appear when joe public reads our comments or speak to us on the subject . Take your short comment for instance even though your not(at least I hope not ??) it does come across as your bit of a 2nd amendment/“deep dark are taking over the world !” sort of nut job from across the pond just by saying we’re all going to be ‘unquestioning drones’ ?

 

[padraigthesniper]

Take your short comment for instance even though your not(at least I hope not ??) it does come across as your bit of a 2nd amendment/“deep dark are taking over the world !” sort of nut job from across the pond just by saying we’re all going to be ‘unquestioning drones’ ?

You arent wrong, the problem is everyone knows what a right wing extremist sounds like. No one however seems to pay attention to the left wing extremists they dont see the extremism on the other side. Critical thinking not labelling and following safe ideology is what people need. I'm sure we can all agree its going too far when people are attacking something as harmless as airsoft. Guns are a different issue, but if a toy gun is so offensive or scary people need to ban them then the problem is with them not a toy. Its crazy some of things that get supported by misinformed well meaning people said by the extreme anti gun anti freedom groups. 

We need balance in the force if we are going to destroy the sith ?

 

[GenuineGerman]

Unfortunately due to the way society has on the whole turned against anyone having an individual opinion that doesn’t fit the accepted/fashionable ‘norm’ we do need to think how even just the wording of our replies to these topics appear when joe public reads our comments or speak to us on the subject . Take your short comment for instance even though your not(at least I hope not ??) it does come across as your bit of a 2nd amendment/“deep dark are taking over the world !” sort of nut job from across the pond just by saying we’re all going to be ‘unquestioning drones’ ?

I like to think I’m not some survivalist gun nut but I do see like you have said society turning against individuality. I can see what you mean how someone people would read that and assume that I’m so kind of lunatic however I do believe in the rule of law and policing by consent. 
 

Without going into it too deeply I do feel however society in general is being dumbed down by reality tv, social media etc. If you have an opinion that doesn’t fit you can be destroyed in the court of public opinion before the truth comes out and by then it’s too late. 
 

I think the film metropolis is a great movie well ahead of its time and to me shows what could happen potentially but if I say things like that and I get called a gun nut lunatic then it plays into the narrative today that unless you conform you must be dangerous. 
 

Rather than engaging in conversation to find out why people are worried and concerned we just shut them down these days and put a label on them. 
 

Im not suggesting that we allow hate speech, racism, homophobia etc as we all know this is abhorrent but a different opinion is just that different. 
 

Sometimes we are wrong sometimes we are right above all we are all humans and have a right to be ourselves. With exceptions the majority of people just want to get on with their lives do what they enjoy and not hurt anyone. 

However I don’t want to be another working bee enabling someone else to ban things I enjoy that don’t hurt people for a perceived threat that probably won’t happen. People sadly as always remember the bad things that happen but I would argue there are far more good things that happen everyday than bad, that is the real fault of humankind. 
 

 

[Shamal]

Unfortunately due to the way society has on the whole turned against anyone having an individual opinion that doesn’t fit the accepted/fashionable ‘norm’ we do need to think how even just the wording of our replies to these topics appear when joe public reads our comments or speak to us on the subject . Take your short comment for instance even though your not(at least I hope not ??) it does come across as your bit of a 2nd amendment/“deep dark are taking over the world !” sort of nut job from across the pond just by saying we’re all going to be ‘unquestioning drones’ ?

Yeah but surely you must have noticed how our rights are being chiseled away at,slowly new laws are creeping in,subtle changes which on their own are, perhaps,of no consequence but just accepted with a cursory "oh well it doesn't affect me"attitude but with every new rule/ regulation we as thinking people are getting weaker and less likely to stand up and question the law makers. Until one day you get a letter in the post 'inviting' you to report for your Elon Musk brain chip implant which will enhance your life and make you happier. Yeah right!

I know people reading this will laugh and say I've been watching too many tube videos but I've seen it happening over many many years.

You can be arrested and charged now for speaking your mind.Whatever happened to free speech?

There are more 'don't do this' rules than 'do this' rules.it's like you are breaking some rule everytime you step out your bloody front door!

I can ride along with it at the moment and kick up a fuss where I can because I'm getting on a bit now but what sort of life are my kids and grandkids gonna grow into because of our inaction and unquestioning acceptance of whatever is forced upon us.

Technology is a wonderful thing but it also gives supreme power to those who control it.

I'm not an activist or a tin hat  jobbie but I'm also not blind!

Read between the lines when you listen to or read the news.

Regards 

 

[Asomodai]

Consistently voting in Authoritarian governments whether its left or right of the political spectrum will make bans a common place.