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    Samoon delivery to UK

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    On 13/01/2022 at 20:00, Rogerborg said:

    I'll go in slow and lubed.

     

     

    New as in "rented, played, loved it", or new as in "saw it on YouTube, found my new hobby for life"?

     

    I ask because if you're looking at dropping $900 plus magazines, shipping, VAT, duty and courier fees on something that will come essentially without warranty, you'll want to be sure that both airsoft and gas blowbacks are right for you.

     

    We generally recommend buying a cheaper AEG as a first gun, until you're sure that you really enjoy the hobby once the buzz has worn off.  It's always good to have a robust backup or loaner around, you're unlikely to stop at one gun (or two, or three, or...)

     

     

     

    And you never will. It's a defence - one of many - not a licence, and it's a UK retailer scheme which only incidentally benefits players.  In practice, this works out much the same, but it's a significant difference during import where it may or may not suffice depending on the courier and the mood of HMRC on the day.  We've seen some folk recently having to fill out import declarations rather than just having it come through on a UKARA number, and some even having visits from the police afterwards to ask them what they're doing importing RIFs.  The tl;dr version is: you need to be sure that importation is worth the risk, even with a defence.

     

     

     

    Nope. Purchase or attempt to purchase is fine if you're 18+.  The offences are sale, manufacture, modification (of a non-realistic firearm into a realistic firearm) or importation, including causing it to be imported.  So, yes, it does apply to this situation, but you're fine to try and persuade someone to sell you a RIF within the UK, without any legal problems - they're the one committing any offence, and some UK retailers sellers (and many private ones) either don't care or will accept other (or spurious) defences.

     

     

     

    Ownership is fine, no offence is being committed.  Public possession needs a reasonable excuse every time - there is no licence or general defence to that, it's case by case.

     

     

     

    Yup, I'm surprised they're not more up-front about it.  You'd have to be very, very lucky to get anything past customs now without it being caught.

     

     

     

    First I've heard of them.

     

    I know it's tempting because of UK stock levels at the moment.  But you'll get hit with 20% VAT, plus some duty, plus a courier fee for paying it, and people are seeing lonnnng delays on deliveries from the EU let alone Taiwan.  I've given up on importation for the moment (other than low value non-RIF stuff from AliExpress that's coming in with VAT pre-paid), it's just too big a gamble for the meagre cost benefits.

     

    It's up to you, and the more that gets imported into the UK the better for all of us, but I wouldn't bet my money on it.

    As Enid said, it's my money, and it's my interest in history and militaria that has the priority here; Airsoft is an interesting hobby, but I'm mostly interested in collecting displayable pieces that I also have a reasonable use for.

    And you're correct, a UKARA defence, my bad.

    Thank you to everyone that let me know about issues with Samoon and COVID atm, I didn't see that anywhere on their website, so either I'm a blind person or they're not being particularly overt about the fact.

     

    I will add I have 0 interest in AEGs; I'd like my toys to look, feel and sound a little less like a... toy. I'm an adult baby with distinguished taste.

    Samoon delivery to UK

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    Posted · Edited by quincee

    Hi guys,

    I'm new to the hobby, and was looking to get something by GHK; I ended up settling on a bundle of an AKM and Glock that is currently being sold on Samoon.

    I do not have a UKARA license yet, but I thought I'd go through the process of checking out my cart in childish excitement for when I finally have it, and I noticed that the site doesn't ask for a UKARA number.
    With UK law prohibiting the purchase of a replica firearm without a UKARA license - or otherwise having a reason to own one I suppose, but that's besides the point - how is this legal? Is it genuinely possible to order from Samoon without a UKARA license and receive an airsoft gun? 

    If anyone has experience with how Samoon work in regards to ordering to the UK, I'd be interested to hear it. 

    EDIT: I've since learned that they'll need my UKARA details for it to make it past customs or something of the like, so there is that. Regardless, if you have any experience with Samoon - delivery times, reliability, customer service and the condition your RIF came in, I'm still interested.

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