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Misery
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  • ok so mega newb question from me are you surprised? lol

    ok so chronoing at site is done at .2 is it just the chronmo set to .2 and u shoot .2 through it?or is it your normal weight shot through it?

    Misery
    Misery
    that was with the maple bucking and soft nub macaron one i think its called

    thats what i was hoping bump up the power a little so on .2's its as close to the site limit then with the .28's and hop set for em thats easy going to be in the low 300fps if not high 290's and not over powered imo and the right way to go about it? i could be wrong on that but you guys will keep me right on that i hope lol :)

    Adolf Hamster
    Adolf Hamster
    if the gun is under the limit when firing and hopping a .2 then for an aeg it should only go down.

    however if you build the gun exactly to the limit firing and hopping a .3, then switch to .2's and turn the hop down to match it could well be over.

    hence a little bit under is better for safety, 5-10fps isn't the end of the world for range but it might make the difference if you end up somewhere with a policy of whacking in .2's, turning the hop off and declaring anything 1fps over as a hot gun.

    Misery
    Misery
    yeah i get what you mean bud i wil er ing more on the side of caution than anything whith thas dont want to make it hot with .28's ill be happy if its in the 300's

    well perun have stuck true to there worde and posted the mosfets out,really cant fault there customer services actualy think they have had the best customer service of any company ive dealt with in my life so far!

    Misery
    Misery
    quick question @ak2m4 will you be getting anymore of those ec gearbox shells in?

    ak2m4
    ak2m4
    I've got a small supply coming in about a week hopefully, then another large supply coming in around 7 weeks

    Misery
    Misery
    nice one!

    black multicam trousers and jacket ordered just need to find a plate carrier i like :D

    Misery
    Misery
    yeah just dont wanna spend a ton on the equipment not to like it and loose a bit having to sell 2nd hand rather find something im semi happy with knowing that if i get the better one ill have a better experience if that makes sence lol

    GenuineGerman
    GenuineGerman
    Yeah my only thing is finding something that good quality. I know it’s only airsoft but you are still moving about and using it so I begrudge paying for something that will break. But I guess it can happen if you spend £50 or £500

    Misery
    Misery
    hahaha aye its a minefield lol

    haha gotta love kids asked my step son"now youve shot your rif how do u think it works*

    12 yr old stepson" well you pull the trigger it goes pew pew*

    cocky wee **** takes after his mother haha

    Adolf Hamster
    Adolf Hamster
    the solution to this is when his gun needs servicing get him to do it :P

    Misery
    Misery
    haha already on that so far he has done a motor and gear change and lube also compression check aswell *preshimmed by me him watching though*then put it bk together with me compressing the spring for him,hes quite a techy kid loves building stuff like the pneumatic arm kits ayou get so thought bugger it will see if hes intrested and he was

    not making a thread for this as no point but dropped one of my combat master mags on concrete fecker slipped out my hand and landed top end firsand exploded apart got the spring and the follower? but what id call the feed lips has broken off and need to source another but can only find the follower or the spring im assuming there pretty much identical hicappa mag ones but dont know where to source one

    Misery
    Misery
    yeah man the long term implications if your were as crap as me on a board were many injurys haha did it for 20 years learned about 10-15 tricks never prgressed past they tricks had more fun near the end just skating about the ramps lol was more a social thing for me had a great laugh with mates skating away for hours going on road trips etc airsoft is replacing that only part misssing is the mates trying to get my m8 into it aswell drag him along seen as though i have the pare guns for him to use :)

    Adolf Hamster
    Adolf Hamster
    yeah i can understand the community aspect of things, one of the things that hit hardest over lockdown.

    Steveocee
    Steveocee
    have to say perun top class customer service

    emailed them last night around midnight about issues with my mosfet they replied by 12pm today and will be sending out a replacement bottom v2 mosfet pcb and there next gen v2 mosfet to try in both gearboxs for them :D

    tonights goal get my finger out ym ass and get my m4 finished stupidly cracked my piston dropping it then running over it with my chair ooops *i aint a fat ass honest* luckily my local shop has cyma metal rack pistons in stock so have picked one of those up along with a couple turnigy 1000mah 7.4's for the stepsons gun when i convert it to deans that is

    Misery
    Misery
    maybe maybe not haha nah i definatly will lol this 29th buisness has got my ass into gear want it running swet as for then :D

    ak2m4
    ak2m4
    Hey bud, I've got so many plastic piston bodies, let me know what rack it is and we can sort something out

    Misery
    Misery
    hey bud thanks for the offer man but i picked one up from the local shop when picked up my batts,but again thank you man!

    wooooohooo royal fail finaly delivered my gears and motor can now get the 621 living again :D.......till something else breaks hahaha 

    ak2m4
    ak2m4
    that's good news dude, funny enough I had a customer in Scotland who I posted out on the very same day, had the same problem. - delivered today.  I get the feeling whenever there's an issue like snow then everything posted out on that day of problems gets shunted to the bottom of the queue instead of being dealt with first.   

    In these situations everything gets delivered right near or on the 10th working day so they can avoid any claims - crazy

    Misery
    Misery
    its a nightmare man up here when it snows its like they dunno what to do

    thanks for putting up with me messaging ya yesterday :D

    still no royal fail with my m4 parts so ican get my gun back together but dpd wont be long with my pistol wooohooo

    Steveocee
    Steveocee
    Yes!!! What pistol you opted for?

    Misery
    Misery
    combat master for now as picked up cheap

    well still waiting on my parts from ak2m4 due to royal fail *not ak2m4 fault they done a top job getting it shipped right away for me as per usual top qaulity service* and this bloody snow gah,have managed to source my self a under half price action army tt john wick two tone and a couple mags and some gas ordered wonder how these will fair on postage times hahaha

    Steveocee
    Steveocee
    Strange country. I ordered with @ak2m4 late on Thursday and it arrived Saturday. Hope your parts get through soon.

    Misery
    Misery
    snow fell heavy here on sunday bud pretty much city ground to a halt only starting to clear

    Misery
    Misery
    well royal fail have been and gone no parts but a hospital appointment for 12pm today haha gd one lol :)

    well that was a intresting email from my former employer due to working through covid scottish care workers are getiing a £500 payment from the scottish gov course its taxed and national insurance taken off to but hey i can see a gbb pistol and some tac gear in my future

    Misery
    Misery
    debateable.....hahaha glad sdhe cant see that nah shes a star ill probs treat her to a takeaway hahaha ;)

    Shamal
    Shamal
    I think she may be organising a takeaway for you as well.Far,far away!lol

    ?

    Misery
    Misery
    haha nah be a cardboard box 6ft under is what she will be planning hahhaa

    bloody royal fail a gd few inch of snow and they are brought to there knees

    Misery
    Misery
    still amuses me they cant deliver in snow yet i still can get my bike out for a play on street tyres too haha

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    Misery
    Misery
    they are here just lazy as know a few posties

    Misery
    Misery
    that we shall that or duel it out with pistols wild west style ;)

    love ak2m4 shipped my order yesterday so be here monday/tuesday,wasnt expecting it to be shipped till monday with being ordered friday night lol

    Misery
    Misery
    it already has here fingers crossed for delivery tomoz lol

    S
    Sitting Duck
    have faith - 16 billion parcels & all that...

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    deliveries to 27 million homes

    all in a day's work...

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    straight to your door...

    (well front room - fuck using the front door)

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    kudos to our posties...



    Misery
    Misery
    hopefully tomoz if havent delivered here by 2pm u aint getting any mail here lol

    painting test has commenced

    Misery
    Misery
    aslong as u use thin coats it shouldnt cause an issue :)

    i wont be selling so ont be an issue for me :)

    S
    Sitting Duck
    Not really in to painting stuff myself

    only really krylon'd some clear or two stuff black

    but DAAAMMMNNNN that is pretty fine job it seems to me

    did you use airbrush or just cans ???

    I got some basic airbrush kits & compressor

    but was for a project at work to spray silicone & counter

    at counted intervals to keep production machine running

    (reducing static build up - fucking worked & fun project)

    I could easily dig them all out & go nutz

    but not my thing really - can't be arsed

    BUT - credit where credit is due...



    Misery
    Misery
    thanks man rattle can almost forked out on a cheapo airbrush kit but i dont do warhammer anymore so would only get used for doing this so just went the tin route made my own stick on camo from sheet of greaseproof paper layer painters tape horizontal one side flip over and vertical the next cut out the shapes and boom u have double side stick on stencils ;)

    what is it with my luck in guns step son asks to use his for a bit of plinking so hell yeah break em out hes going easy on his did a few full auto bursts nothing stupid like mag dumping then switchs to semi few more shots then piston jams up *not a blockage*take it apart the spur gear has lost a tooth.so have ordered a rocket high torque motor and 13-1 gears for my gun and will transfer my gearset and motor to his hehe silverlining and all i suppose 

    S
    Sitting Duck
    A thing to watch out for is using agressive Active Braking

    with some motors like SHS, G&G type cans/end-bells

    Something to do with a mildrisk of shorting from two allen bolts into lockring under end-bell

    Pete @ak2m4 does metion certain motors don't like agressive AB on Titans etc...

    and being now the 621 has the Perun Optical in there...

    Then be careful perhaps at using high levels of AB

    TBH - you could get the SHS/RA with vented can

    and if it goes a bit funny then shove the motor in 516

    and then 13:1 in the 621 will still help

    the 621 motor is probably a little bit better than the 516 one

    the really cheap 516 Cyma motor is a 27tpa but really chucked together by a 3yr old - yes really a 3yr old

    The Grey Cyma 27tpa, has no bearing in motor tower/shaft

    the windings are crimped on and then somebody shot their load over the commutator - coz their is white rock hard heat resistant glue all over it - different to blue/green heat cement to hold winding in place on armature

    presume to "balance" the mtor - nah, don't look like it carefully affixed - just splodged on at random where winding is crimped to commutator - it's fucking rock hard so forget ever trying to rewind this armature

    Now some of the higher end Cyma's use a chrome/silver motor that "might" be say 22tpa and stronger magnets - in higher guns even perhaps weak neodym or stronger ferrite perhaps.

    But certainly seems to perform a bit better in Cyma's high speed 13:1 Short Stroked HS G36's etc...

    So you might get better performance just by using the 13:1's in 621 without needing the SHS/RA motor

    But you could still grab one to try and if it plays up with Perun on AB

    Then keep Cyma motor in 621 now with 13:1's

    & chuck the SHS/RA in the 516 for added zest on 18:1's

    Thing is atm, a number of bits are getting thinner on the ground

    in stock or at reasonable prices whilst this import malarky begins to settle down a little

    So some bits like motors from China might be limited availability for a little while longer & people like Pete have few options in stock atm

    Now personally I think the specs of the RA vented 16tpa is not quite correct...

    https://www.ak2m4.co.uk/internal-parts/motors-parts/rocket-high-torque-motor-long

    See if that was 16tpa then it should be a bit higher on rpm on 8.4v at say 28k

    and maybe the amp draw a bit higher than 3.5a unloaded

    as the true SHS hits 29k at 4.8a

    now these motor specs/performance do vary quite a bit

    and some of the tests may have been done on one from a batch

    and different magnet strengths, wire thickness SWG etc...

    Plus China sweatshops revise stuff all the time

    (quality can vary hence the term: Chinese lottery)

    Personally I think the motor is perhaps somewhere like a 18tpa

    at say aprox 25k rpm but could be way way off with my gut feeling about the vented RA

    However limited choices atm, and if issues arose

    then you could just chuck it in 516 I guess

    if it was say a 24k/25k motor it should be OK for the 621

    but if AB issues arose then no biggy to chuck in 516

    & use the silver/chrome 621 motor on 13:1's

    both guns then get a bit more snap anyway

    Misery
    Misery
    if i use precocking feature on the perun then it negates the active breaking function so should be fine on that side of things

    yeah the magnets in the 621 motor are strong as feck if im honest easily 5-6 x stronger than the 516's motor

    i spoke to pete about the motor as was originaly going to get the shs one off his site but it was sold out in his words these are a smidge better than the shs ones

    yeah man alwasy have the other one to throw it in if issues arrise :)

    S
    Sitting Duck
    Yeah thought the chrome/silver 621 motor

    "should" be a bit better than the 516 cheapo one

    (tbh couldn't be any cheaper/worse than the 516 motor)

    Only manufacturers do NOT ALWAYS fit the expected better

    components as the gun/model's price tag increases

    (usually this is true - though never always assume it will be)

    Good to know it is a stronger neodym motor in there though

    SHS is a good 28~30k motor

    the RA seems (according to specs) to draw less amps

    in line with being a 24k motor,

    which is a good thing on 13:1 gears

    (as said I'm slightly sceptical on specs if it really is a 16tpa

    like can might say - more like 18tpa but who knows in the end)

    but either motor combo will be an improvement

    and the 516 gets a bit more zest either way

    bit of work doing both guns

    but I concur that it will offer a sensible outcome

    where both guns benefit from it

    and as said HOPEFULLY this upgrade malarky will reach a satisfying conclusion where both guns are sorted for a good while

    e annoying wait on the airsoft shop openiong so can go get my parts

    Steveocee
    Steveocee
    I just can't wait to go and be there. My local has some seating and drinks etc, I just wat to go and chill for an hour.

    Misery
    Misery
    nice so will this one they have recently moved to a new unit with a 40m range etc aswell cant wait for crap to go bk to normalish lol

    ahhh the rancid smell of burnt pcb love it.....not

    Misery
    Misery
    just relised thats for v3 gear boxs doh lol

    S
    Sitting Duck
    people on YT mess about & find out

    then post it in reviews n shit

    fuck knows what the ETU++ tune is

    if he shuts up a bit you might hear it better



    Misery
    Misery
    haha thats nuts lol

    well no wonder the 516 was noisy as shit!!!

    S
    Sitting Duck
    Yeah that is pretty good for a Cyma tbh

    they are normally not great, hardly anything

    reckon somebody tweaked it when downgraded spring

    G&G's starters are not brilliant either

    JG's often have a double o-ring cylinder head

    (which is pretty good)

    & their std piston head offers good stock compression

    yeah deans will help add say 1~1.5rps

    motor is cheap/lame, not even a bearing on motor tower

    but it is a £80 starter so can't expect too much

    and I've bought a FUCKING LOT WORSE when I started

    good job squire

    Misery
    Misery
    did see what you meant about the crappy nozzles though!!!

    yeah to begin with didnt think it would of made a gd seal but managed to get it as you saw

    yeah have seen alot of g and gs that aint performing right

    ahhh nice to know as have looked at a few jg snipers

    haha yeah is a bit weak i may change that lol

    nah i aint just getting it runnign gd for the wee man is main priority :)

    thank you :)

    S
    Sitting Duck
    They all might need a bit of work here n there

    Never been able to get great compression

    from a stock G&G piston with head all sorts of o-rings

    (Cyma's are nice with new o-ring)

    Some manufacturers make a slightly better model M4

    & others make a better AK's - Cyma

    (Cyma either cheap 028 or 040 series, avoid the cheaper 521)

    & both JG & Cyma make decent starter G36's

    G&G's are nice - their receivers are lovely, even plastic ones

    they make nice looking models costing a bit more

    boxes are finished a bit better & very TM Compatible

    grey 18k motors are like slightly slightly better Cyma cheapies

    & if lucky you might get a slightly better blue or

    if very lucky a neodym orange ifrit 25k motor

    (but usually in the £200 G&G's than the £130 Combat Machines)

    G&G's with electronic ETU's can be picky for some people

    which alas let them down & G&G lost some ground

    whilst cheap as chips Cyma upped their game on many starters

    at a much lower price - sure they aren't on G&G's level for finish

    but a lot cheaper & quite robust for such a cheap starter gun

    but in the end, as long as they go peew peew OK

    that will often do just fine for a first gun or backup

    ya did good sir - well done

    shims ordered from local airsoft shop hopefully be able to pick em up tomoz then going to strip down and clean the 516 reshim and regrease get it sounding better than it does lol

    Misery
    Misery
    haha ill be dead before that happens llf as can gaurentee she will murder me soon with the pranks i pray on her surprised she aint put in for the old divorce  yet lol

    Shamal
    Shamal
    Haha you may have another mystery box soon dude

    Divorce papers. Only kidding. Be cool dude ?

    Regards 

    Misery
    Misery
    hahaha if she says mystery box im running as will mean another kid llf,laters bud

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