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I was just about to post 13:1's into the 516 needs some work...

But then you are proposing to transplant the 621 std gears

to the 516 - so all do-able...

The issue with 516 boxes that are re-enforced at rear

is that 13:1's very often (not always, but mostly)

very often needs a bit of material removed on the arc

in the top half of box...

So to install 13:1's in the 516 you gotta do this...




So even super CERAMIC bearings can fail under spur

so sound advise for long term durability is bushing under spur

Anyway - the SHS gears "could" go in OK

but they are a bit more chunky/robust

especially on spur gear I have found

the bevel will fine - you might only need say 0.15mm on top

but should be within margins to shim up OK

Sector - should be also OK - might need only a 0.15

insted of say 0.25/0.30 on top but "should" be just about OK

(if really tight then replace sector top bushing with bearing)

It is the SPUR gear that sometimes in some builds

gets a little tight or close with room to shim up with

Admit I ain't got the 621 box that isn't re-enforced

but I have found these chunky SHS sets and some zci/bd 13:1's

well the 13:1 spur gets a whisker too tight in some builds

where it is all bushings (that are a bit thicker inside box)

Bearings sit more flush inside, but protrude a little more outside

So often if doing two exact same guns, 1 bushings & 1 bearings

the bushing gun will require slightly less shims

& the bearing gun will require a few more shims as there's

more play/room on the gear axles when installed

This bushing/bearing play bollox is common to all guns

not just qwirky Cyma's, bushings tend to use less shims

I'd suggest getting a set of 8mm bearings for top of spur

and maybe sector if required

If there was an ultra ultra wafer thin lack of play on spur

then you can remove the bushing and place on some

emery paper going in circles to reduce a whisker off it

Though being steel(ish) you will be there a while

trying to reduce the thickness of the bushing

(quite a fucking while if it is fairly tight)

you ain't gonna sand it down much - even on coarse emery

then onto finer emery paper to finish, clean & refit

Yeah it is a pain & can't reduce it much at all

but I've done it to a top bushing on bevel

with almost no shim room on a ultra chunky bushing

sanded it for AAAAGGGGEEEEEESSSSSS

then used a very thin 0.10mm - well the most worn one

at 0.085mm on top and yup, it finally worked out OK

(could have used a bearing on top of bevel but wanted bushing)

So yeah some things to watch out for - if the SHS are too chunky

as said - the more you change & upgrade the more "fun" you can encounter with various issues that "may" arise in "some" builds

you might be lucky & OK - if you had quite a bit of shimming room in the 621 - particularly on the Spur side of things

but my gut tells me it will very likely be a more more snug/chunky than the stock Cyma gears

so consider adding some 8mm bearings for top of spur & maybe sector - just in case

Asomodai
Asomodai
Those Rocket 16TPA high torque motors arent the best to power 13:1 ratio gears. You need at least 22TPA to get the best out of them. 

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