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New Zed Adventures CQB Site - 'Z-mart' in Newbury

Ooh my sister lives in Newbury definitely be down for that. Maybe drag my brother in law along, that would be funny.

 
DrAlexanderTobacco said:
It's definitely big enough for a decent run around, but it's not going to be like the Friar's Walk mall. Being a department store, it's mostly open with some shelving, some counters for perfume etc. - so some set dressing will be required. Hopefully some properly opaque walls instead of netting!
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A few OSB panels, some silver paint and a bit of steel and you have some Tarkov barricades

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Asomodai said:
Is non rateable area stuff like stairs/escalators and voids?

Edit: Or is it just Google maps inaccuracies?
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Good question, 550m2 difference is quite big.  Let's find out.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/how-non-domestic-property-including-plant-and-machinery-is-valued#measuring-methods

The net internal area (NIA) method of measurement is generally applied to:

  • offices
  • shops
  • other retail premises, such as banks, hairdressers, restaurants

Net internal area


The net internal area (NIA) is the total usable area of each floor within a building, measured to the inside face of the boundary walls (ignoring skirting boards).

Areas measured include:

  • kitchens
  • any built-in cupboards or units that occupy usable areas
  • perimeter skirting boards, mouldings and trunking
  • open circulation areas such as atria, corridors and entrance halls
  • Partition walls and other dividing elements
Areas that are excluded are:

  • internal structural walls
  • walls (whether structural or not) enclosing excluded areas
  • piers, columns, chimney breasts, ducts and other projections
  • cleaner’s cupboards
  • lifts, lift rooms, lift wells
  • stairwells and landings
  • stairwells, entrance halls, atria, landings and balconies used in common or for essential access
  • corridors and other circulation areas used in common with other occupiers or of a permanent essential nature
  • boiler rooms, fuel stores, plant rooms and tank rooms other than those of a trade process nature
  • car parking areas
  • spaces occupied by cooling and heating equipment, air conditioning systems and ducting which renders the space substantially unusable
  • areas with a headroom of less than 1.5m
  • toilets and associated lobbies, unless additional toilets have been installed
  • areas under the control of service or other external authorities
 
Rogerborg said:
Good question, 550m2 difference is quite big.  Let's find out.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/how-non-domestic-property-including-plant-and-machinery-is-valued#measuring-methods

The net internal area (NIA) method of measurement is generally applied to:

  • offices
  • shops
  • other retail premises, such as banks, hairdressers, restaurants

Net internal area


The net internal area (NIA) is the total usable area of each floor within a building, measured to the inside face of the boundary walls (ignoring skirting boards).

Areas measured include:

  • kitchens
  • any built-in cupboards or units that occupy usable areas
  • perimeter skirting boards, mouldings and trunking
  • open circulation areas such as atria, corridors and entrance halls
  • Partition walls and other dividing elements
Areas that are excluded are:

  • internal structural walls
  • walls (whether structural or not) enclosing excluded areas
  • piers, columns, chimney breasts, ducts and other projections
  • cleaner’s cupboards
  • lifts, lift rooms, lift wells
  • stairwells and landings
  • stairwells, entrance halls, atria, landings and balconies used in common or for essential access
  • corridors and other circulation areas used in common with other occupiers or of a permanent essential nature
  • boiler rooms, fuel stores, plant rooms and tank rooms other than those of a trade process nature
  • car parking areas
  • spaces occupied by cooling and heating equipment, air conditioning systems and ducting which renders the space substantially unusable
  • areas with a headroom of less than 1.5m
  • toilets and associated lobbies, unless additional toilets have been installed
  • areas under the control of service or other external authorities
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Awesome! The Google maps area sounds about right taking the excluded areas. 

 
Asomodai said:
Awesome! The Google maps area sounds about right taking the excluded areas. 
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Yup, it's a reasonable size if they get enough cover in.  A single staircase / escalator would be a bit of a challenge. I'd put a riot shield on it which can be used to push up or down but then has to be left at the top or bottom once you've got there.

Being in an occupied shopping centre is also going to be... interesting.  The site staff and local police would have to be well briefed, and I'd expect some Special Walt will open-carry in or out sooner or later.

I hope they make a good go of it, it's a brave move to go "legit" like that.

 
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Rogerborg said:
Yup, it's a reasonable size if they get enough cover in.  A single staircase / escalator would be a bit of a challenge. I'd put a riot shield on it which can be used to push up or down but then has to be left at the top or bottom once you've got there.

Being in an occupied shopping centre is also going to be... interesting.  The site staff and local police would have to be well briefed, and I'd be expert that some Special Walt will open-carry in or out sooner or later.

I hope they make a good go of it, it's a brave move to go "legit" like that.
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There might be a couple of auxiliary stairwells hopefully. 

I can imagine there will be a fair few casuals turning up the games off the street as well. Might stick to private booking!

 
Asomodai said:
I can imagine there will be a fair few casuals turning up the games off the street as well. Might stick to private booking!
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They'll need all the business through the door they can get in order to cover their costs.

I mention that because I recently noticed that the rates bill alone for the close-to-derelict Depot building in Glasgow is £184,332 a year.  It's a shared site with electric dirt bikes and iCombat laser pew-pews as well, but even so, that's eye watering.  Racking up £3,621 a week with no income for 6 months and not a squeak out of them since July, I'm getting rather fearful that they may have just ghosted. :(

Operating out of retail premises, I'd expect Zed will have to run it like a regular daily business rather than just weekend big-bang sessions.  It'll be really interesting to see if they can pull it off.

 
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They could do something like that place in London with electronic targets.  Book a 30 min plinking time attack session etc during the day.  Make people have to book for the first time so you have verified names in case any chavs/other undesirables decide to start pissing about.  Then have some form of membership so you can stroll in off the street and do a bit of target shooting if you've got some time to kill in the area.

 
Asomodai said:
Awesome! The Google maps area sounds about right taking the excluded areas. 
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Not trying to be elitist but as someone who frequents a site where you get a lot of stag party type groups, this has got to be a concern. Too many of the ones I've encountered are literally there just to piss around with BB guns, regardless of the rule-set.

 
We'll see what their booking system is like and what days etc first, but I think an AFUK Zed day is well overdue.

Also, a group of us on facebook have decided to call this new site: Zedenhams  :D

 
L3wisD said:
We'll see what their booking system is like and what days etc first, but I think an AFUK Zed day is well overdue.

Also, a group of us on facebook have decided to call this new site: Zedenhams  :D
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Awesome. Hook a brother up :D  

 
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hitmanNo2 said:
They could do something like that place in London with electronic targets.  Book a 30 min plinking time attack session etc during the day.  Make people have to book for the first time so you have verified names in case any chavs/other undesirables decide to start pissing about.  Then have some form of membership so you can stroll in off the street and do a bit of target shooting if you've got some time to kill in the area.
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That's a good shout for a walk-in site.  That said, I've tried the Attack Sense range at the Depot, and shooting from booths is... well, meh, really, I only did it on a free intro day, mostly just to use the chrono and get some hops dialled in so as not to waste time on the next game day.

For a pay session, I'd want quite a bit of variety, or up the ante to walkabout practical-shooting, both of which require more staff and supervision, so more costs.

Cr0-Magnon said:
Not trying to be elitist but as someone who frequents a site where you get a lot of stag party type groups, this has got to be a concern. Too many of the ones I've encountered are literally there just to piss around with BB guns, regardless of the rule-set.
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That's a valid concern, I wouldn't want anyone on site who doesn't actively want to be there to play airsoft as a (looks around) sport.

I really hope they can find a way to make it work, as I'd love to see CQB sites being a bit less post-apocalypse and a bit more valet parking. ;)

 
Asomodai said:
I can imagine there will be a fair few casuals turning up the games off the street as well. Might stick to private booking!
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There was always "out for a laugh" rentals at The Mall. That said a few of them played well and took their hits better than some of the multicam crowd!

 
Lozart said:
There was always "out for a laugh" rentals at The Mall. That said a few of them played well and took their hits better than some of the multicam crowd!
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Are any of us part of the Multiglam crowd?!?

 
Asomodai said:
Are any of us part of the Multiglam crowd?!?
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Depends...do you wear multiglam and believe yourself to be surrounded by an invisible shield that prevents any and all BB hits?

 
Interesting thing about the announcement...

Kennet Shopping FB Page - 4850 page likes - 524 comments on this post - 271 shares

Zed Adventures FB Page - 11396 page likes - 59 comments on this post - 25 shares

How come there's so much more traction on the page with fewer likes?

 
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