Ares Amoeba Striker AS-01/AS-02 Owners Thread

[Solly4568]

what were you sanding? 

So I had to sand the ring itself so it could fit on the cylinder and then I sanded the interior of the receiver to keep it smooth and dam does it look good. I also found a replacement screw for the centre body screw because mine had shredded itself so now I have silver body screws as well?

Could you please measure it next time you take it apart? For... khm... education.

What do you want measuring, I know that you do a bit of 3d printing and coming from a guy who owns a 3d printer I don't think that you would be able to get the same level of smoothness and precision for the ring. They have to CNC theirs from some frictionless plastic to get it to work. But hey it's worth a try. I will be able to measure it accurately on Friday when I get home ?

 

[Samurai]

What do you want measuring, ...

Outer diameter and maybe the length. (Just because I'm lazy to make a few test prints to get the proper size.)

I have printed guide rings for my Bar-10 and they worked nicely. PLA can be quite smooth. I've been eyeing this ring and I think I even printed one at one point but I don't remember what the outcome was. Seeing you being excited about it made me wanting it again.

Thank you in advance.

 

[Solly4568]

Outer diameter and maybe the length. (Just because I'm lazy to make a few test prints to get the proper size.)

I have printed guide rings for my Bar-10 and they worked nicely. PLA can be quite smooth. I've been eyeing this ring and I think I even printed one at one point but I don't remember what the outcome was. Seeing you being excited about it made me wanting it again.

Thank you in advance.

Ok got you, I will have to crack out my electric callipers on the weekend. I would also recommend an acetone bath to smooth it if you are using PLA because that should get it nice and smooth 

 

[Solly4568]

Outer diameter and maybe the length. (Just because I'm lazy to make a few test prints to get the proper size.)

I have printed guide rings for my Bar-10 and they worked nicely. PLA can be quite smooth. I've been eyeing this ring and I think I even printed one at one point but I don't remember what the outcome was. Seeing you being excited about it made me wanting it again.

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Here you go mate sorry it took so long but those are all the measurement that I could get ?

 

[Samurai]

Great, thank you very much @Solly4568

 

[Solly4568]

Just one observation that I have made while using the cylinder ring is that you seem to get a lot less grease on the hop rubber because the bolt is no longer dragging along the inside of the receiver and at the rate that the strikers go through buckings, anything that extends their life is a good thing

 

[Lozart]

Perfect example of people's stupidity.

Fancy useless aftermarket hop chamber but kept the shit stock cylinder.

The rough bolt pull happens because of the AS01 45° sear and the utter shit brass cylinder. One small free thing you can do is to get rid of the cocking indicator. More useless than that fancy AA hop chamber your mate spend way too much on, it grinds against the cylinder side and, to be fair, nobody cares about a visual indicator that your cock is gunned.

Seems I have a similar mate.

He's had the AA hop chamber fitted and a stronger spring. Now the bolt is super tough to pull and the BBs either get chopped or double feed depending on the adjustment of the BB stoppers. If I get the stoppers to actually not double feed the nozzle doesn't seem to want to seat forward properly. Is there any way to fix this beyond putting the original hop unit back in?

 

[E21A]

Seems I have a similar mate.

He's had the AA hop chamber fitted and a stronger spring. Now the bolt is super tough to pull and the BBs either get chopped or double feed depending on the adjustment of the BB stoppers. If I get the stoppers to actually not double feed the nozzle doesn't seem to want to seat forward properly. Is there any way to fix this beyond putting the original hop unit back in?

there probably is, but put the stock hop chamber back in with a gunsmithy hop arm and nub 

 

[Lozart]

there probably is, but put the stock hop chamber back in with a gunsmithy hop arm and nub 

Cool. Plan is to fit the original hop unit as soon as he manages to find it! Any recommendations on rubbers? I did suggest he get a better inner barrel so vsr rubbers would be an option.

 

[E21A]

Cool. Plan is to fit the original hop unit as soon as he manages to find it! Any recommendations on rubbers? I did suggest he get a better inner barrel so vsr rubbers would be an option.

Either get a crazy jet barrel or de-bridge the standard barrel and use a maple leaf MR hop rubber. Works a treat with the gunsmithy arm and nub 

 

[Solly4568]

Cool. Plan is to fit the original hop unit as soon as he manages to find it! Any recommendations on rubbers? I did suggest he get a better inner barrel so vsr rubbers would be an option.

In regard to the double feeding is he still using the standard hop up bucking? I know that I have had some serious problems with those in the past especially with the upgraded hop unit. Now on to problem at hand I may be wrong but I don't think you can put VSR barrels in with the standard hop unit but don't hold me to that. Depending on the FPS that it is putting out I would put in a Maple Leaf Deception bucking at around 60 to 70° In my own striker which is running dead 500 FPS I have a 65° bucking along with a panther concave nub and a Maple leaf dual bore barrel and that gives me accurate shots out to 100m.

Hope this helps 

 

[E21A]

Now on to problem at hand I may be wrong but I don't think you can put VSR barrels in with the standard hop unit but don't hold me to that.

the standard barrel is a VSR cut, so any VSR barrel will fit in the standard hop unit. 
 

It’s AEG springs they use, not barrels. 
 

 

[Lozart]

In regard to the double feeding is he still using the standard hop up bucking? I know that I have had some serious problems with those in the past especially with the upgraded hop unit. Now on to problem at hand I may be wrong but I don't think you can put VSR barrels in with the standard hop unit but don't hold me to that. Depending on the FPS that it is putting out I would put in a Maple Leaf Deception bucking at around 60 to 70° In my own striker which is running dead 500 FPS I have a 65° bucking along with a panther concave nub and a Maple leaf dual bore barrel and that gives me accurate shots out to 100m.

Hope this helps 

Despite having been told that a ML rubber had been fitted by the shop that put the aa hop in it is still running the original rubber and barrel. He's getting around 460-470 fps currently. 

 

[Solly4568]

Despite having been told that a ML rubber had been fitted by the shop that put the aa hop in it is still running the original rubber and barrel. He's getting around 460-470 fps currently. 

If it's still under warranty I would send it back and get them to do it properly. But if not I would give the upgraded hop unit a go with the ML bucking to see if that makes a difference

the standard barrel is a VSR cut, so any VSR barrel will fit in the standard hop unit. 
 

It’s AEG springs they use, not barrels. 

Aaa yeah thanks mate ?

 

[Hinuga]

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What's up guys,

I have a problem with my AS02:

- Maple Leaf 6.04mm Crazy Jet VSR

- Maple Leaf Omega Hop Up Tensioner - schwarz

- Maple Leaf 70° "MR Hop" GBB / VSR Hop Up Bucking

- Ares SP550 C.P.S.B. Spring

- Action Army CNC Aluminium Hop Up-Chamber

- Ares C.P.S.B. Spring Cylinder

This is my current setup. What baffles me about it is that with the MR Hop my airseal is REALLY bad (basically nonexistent). With the stock Bucking I can hold my finger on the tip basically all day and it stays in. Anyone got a lead as to why that is?

 

[Samurai]

Maple leaf buckings' QC is lacking lately. You should try some other, like the new Modify one. I heard good things about it. I personally use Flamingo.

I'd use softer one, 60, maybe 50, depending on the weight you use.

 

[Skara]

May I suggest to apply a small section of heat shrink to the cylinder head?

I assume the leak happens between that and the hop rubber lips because I guess the latter are a tad too large.

Or a dental floss mod (a really old school trick to have more consistent hop and a bit more air seal)

 

[Hinuga]

Alright, thanks you two! I'll try out the heatshrink mod first since I have some laying around. But if that doesn't work I'll try the other Buckings. Do they work with the Crazy Jet? I'm using .43g currently, would 60 be better for that weight?

 

[Skara]

It's more of a temperature/energy output matter.

I run a 50 and it lifts 0.4s just fine, but I am limited to 1J so I stick to 0.30s

If you live in a cold area a softer rubber (50-60) is recommended over a harder one (75+)

After all you're not going full auto at 50 rps chewing through it in a matter of days.

 

[Hinuga]

I gave Maple Leaf a second chance with a 50 Decepticon and now the airseal holds up perfectly. I'm glad that I don't have to do any of the mods, but i thank y'all for the suggestions. Can't wait to go play with it again!

One Problem holds up however. The AA Hop Up Chamber always loses a bit of its material when the cylinderhead goes into it. Is there any way I can fix that or is it even that big of a problem? The Bucking always has a bit of an aluminum shaving "ring" on the outside after I fire a few rounds through it.