Mike1975 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) Hi guys. I bought my son an M45. It lost power so I gave it back to my local dealer who passed it on to his Tech guy. The Tech replaced something and said it was fixed. Son took it to an airsoft game at the weekend and says it fires one bb then it stops firing. I’ve no experience with airsoft guns. I’ve taken a look and can see something in the magazine port that’s at an angle. I’d assume this should be straight? Can anyone confirm please? TIA. Edited March 18 by Mike1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1flyguy Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Hi Mike I maybe giving you totally wrong info but as a noob, I’ve been using an M4 for look last couple of games and it stopped firing & then started firing all in its own, turned out I’m too bloody heavy handed and knackered the OE trigger, I’ve since had it upgraded to remove the mechanical element! like I say I’m a noob so just getting my head around it, could it be the same issue?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1975 Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 Thanks mate. Think I may have explained this wrong. So, the gun actually fires. The problem is the bb’s are not feeding in and so they’re not firing out. My son says after inserting the magazine the gun fired one, maybe two bb’s then none. Im thinking it’s something to do with the part I’ve pictured that is at an angle. But need this confirmed if possible. r1flyguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1flyguy Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 8 hours ago, Mike1975 said: Thanks mate. Think I may have explained this wrong. So, the gun actually fires. The problem is the bb’s are not feeding in and so they’re not firing out. My son says after inserting the magazine the gun fired one, maybe two bb’s then none. Im thinking it’s something to do with the part I’ve pictured that is at an angle. But need this confirmed if possible. No problem, sorry my very limited knowledge can not be of any help. I believe there are a couple of you tube videos showing fixes for the Ares M45 when they fail, might be useful, try this one https://youtu.be/dJt4kZbw4Jg?si=cr0JAfmFp09L_NV0 2m25 secs in. Hope you manage to sort it out 🙏🏻 Edited March 19 by r1flyguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1975 Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 That’s great thanks. I will check them out this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymoose Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 It looks like the little feed tube for the hop unit is broken/pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1975 Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 Thanks mate. I thought it didn’t look right. Are they easy to remove? I have visions of opening it up and springs flying out everywhere lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1975 Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 So I’ve opened it up and it was the feed tube that was wonky. I can straighten it with my finger. But I tightened it and it went back into the wonky position. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lord_Poncho Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 No personal experience with that type of RIF, but looking at how it is assembled, potentially place a slither of something under the lowest side (of that weird two part hop unit - no idea why Ares have used that design - very out of date) before those two screws are tightened? A bit of aluminium from a cut up coke can might do it for example, or even some card. r1flyguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 First of can you not throw it back at the so called 'tech'? Second option buy a new hop unit. If theres a shop near yu they should have them and will probably fit it for you if you ask nicely.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1975 Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 I’ll try the Coke tin trick first. Don’t think I trust that tech if he’s managed to cock this up lol. I will sort it 🙂 r1flyguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Was probaly bent from factory, Ares are iffy at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1975 Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, BigAl said: Was probaly bent from factory, Ares are iffy at best. 😢 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1975 Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 (edited) So, i’ve took the feed tube out. It split apart whilst doing that (why design them like that 🤷♂️). There was a natural bend in it, so it was never wonky. I’ve gently reinstalled it and it looks good. Test fire is same result. Bb is going into the feed tube but the bb just sits there and doesn’t fire. Back to the shop on Saturday. They can deal with it. Edited March 20 by Mike1975 r1flyguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymoose Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 52 minutes ago, Mike1975 said: So, i’ve took the feed tube out. It split apart whilst doing that (why design them like that 🤷♂️). There was a natural bend in it, so it was never wonky. I’ve gently reinstalled it and it looks good. Test fire is same result. Bb is going into the feed tube but the bb just sits there and doesn’t fire. Back to the shop on Saturday. They can deal with it. What if you install it turned 180°? Will the bottom of it be straight in the magwell and line up better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lord_Poncho Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 3 hours ago, Mike1975 said: So, i’ve took the feed tube out. It split apart whilst doing that (why design them like that 🤷♂️). There was a natural bend in it, so it was never wonky. I’ve gently reinstalled it and it looks good. Test fire is same result. Bb is going into the feed tube but the bb just sits there and doesn’t fire. Back to the shop on Saturday. They can deal with it. Did your tech instal a new hop up rubber/bucking do you know? It might possibly be that if he has e.g. put in a Maple Leaf bucking, they have longer lips which can prevent feeding. Do you have access to several different makes of BB? Might be worth trying another type as well - especially if your BBs that you current have are Bio's and they are rather old (they can swell with age/moisture content). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1975 Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 3 hours ago, The_Lord_Poncho said: Did your tech instal a new hop up rubber/bucking do you know? It might possibly be that if he has e.g. put in a Maple Leaf bucking, they have longer lips which can prevent feeding. Do you have access to several different makes of BB? Might be worth trying another type as well - especially if your BBs that you current have are Bio's and they are rather old (they can swell with age/moisture content). Not quite sure what he replaced. Only charged £10 so assume it wasn’t anything major. 5 hours ago, Anonymoose said: What if you install it turned 180°? Will the bottom of it be straight in the magwell and line up better? It looks like the tube wouldn’t line up if I install it at 180 degree. From the test fire, the bb went into the tube. It just didn’t shoot out. I’m thinking it’s now the firing mechanism that’s broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1975 Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 So, after doing a bit more research, I’m now pretty convinced the problem is the tappet plate on the gearbox. No chance I can fix that so it’s back to the shop on Saturday. Thanks everyone who tried to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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