What makes Airsoft a joke

[Steveocee]

Back when I was uneducated and played paintball, they had both an FPS limit and a RPS limit.

 

[GeorgePlaysAirsoft]

There's something to cater for everyone, its all a spectrum and lets face it's not even that wide. Got open days to do what you want, then milsims, battlesims, gas only games bla bla - they all happen, you just might have to travel.

If there was a system whereby you had guns that had (lethality aside!) the exact same function as real guns that would indeed be cool as shit and would probably replace airsoft. But that's not gonna happen anytime soon. Things which are trying to emulate this function is stuff like MILES and of course simunition. But not are there obvious practical barriers  to using both those things to "skirmish" with, they have their downsides too.

So rather then looking at what airsoft is bad at you should look at what it is good at - which is actually quite a lot. But you have to make the most of that too, whether as a skirmisher or a event organiser or whatever.

 

[Albiscuit]

I also really don't like rediculous ROF. And also think it would be good if each type of gun represented it's real counterpart but if that was the case for rate of fire then for me it would also have to be the case for scaled projectile range.... Which wouldn't be possible unfortunately.

I think this was my point but you have used better words in a better order

SMGs should be for cqb and not have the same range as a rifle or be able to match a DMR.

but this is a minor thing which bothers me... hell I use an evo outdoors because it’s as good range wise as any of my ‘long’ guns, I would just prefer if certain classes of guns had pros and cons, I guess they do in a way but a HPA glock with a drum mag should not be able to out fire, out range and put down more rounds than a support weapon!!

 

[Tackle]

there's only one reason why some players want silly rof guns ?

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[Resistor170]

I think this was my point but you have used better words in a better order

SMGs should be for cqb and not have the same range as a rifle or be able to match a DMR.

but this is a minor thing which bothers me... hell I use an evo outdoors because it’s as good range wise as any of my ‘long’ guns, I would just prefer if certain classes of guns had pros and cons, I guess they do in a way but a HPA glock with a drum mag should not be able to out fire, out range and put down more rounds than a support weapon!!

Yeah I agree, I think we have the same mindset, that would bring a new dimension to the game and put some deeper thought into what to run with and also what targets to prioritise to a degree. I'd be happy for HPA to be used in something like an m134 minigun and that's about it. 

But that's just a fantasy and in reality people can do what they like of course ?

 

[E21A]

there's only one reason why some players want silly rof guns ?

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Any excuse to trot out one of my fave memes 

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[Nick G]

What makes airsoft a joke ? people who take it far too seriously ! Dudes we are playing dress up and shooting each other with our toy guns, relax !

 

[Resistor170]

What makes airsoft a joke ? people who take it far too seriously ! Dudes we are playing dress up and shooting each other with our toy guns, relax !

Exactly why I don't like HPA ?. For the record, I can only speak for myself of course but I think we are all relaxed and know its just a game

 

[Nick G]

Exactly why I don't like HPA ?. For the record, I can only speak for myself of course but I think we are all relaxed and know its just a game

Oh there are always a few !

 

[Resistor170]

Oh there are always a few !

Oh I completely misunderstood, I thought you were directing it at the people on this thread... Yes there are plenty about eh, comical

 

[L3wisD]

Exactly why I don't like HPA ? .

Does having an HPA set up equal taking airsoft too seriously then?

 

[Resistor170]

Does having an HPA set up equal taking airsoft too seriously then?

I may well be wrong...I was under the understanding that HPA will always give rediculously high rof. If that's right then to me that would be unnecessary and taking it too seriously yes, almost bordering on cheating in a way it's not cheating if you know what I mean. 

Because I associate HPA with high rate of fire I have never looked into it at all, and because I have never looked into it there might be other advantages of carrying a tank around I don't know about. 

But as I said people can do what they like. 

 

[Nick G]

Oh I completely misunderstood, I thought you were directing it at the people on this thread... Yes there are plenty about eh, comical

No, not the folks on here, we've all seen em at games though

 

[Resistor170]

No, not the folks on here, we've all seen em at games though

Yeah. Fortunately a minority

Does having an HPA set up equal taking airsoft too seriously then?

S uprise surprise it turns out I was very wrong about HPA. After a quick googling I gather there are lots of pros to HPA, one being easy to adjust the rof. So I gather that means you can lower the rof as well as up it! 

I had seen lots of YouTube videos with hpa and high rof etc as a title and was never interested from then on. 

 

[L3wisD]

Yeah, lots of Americans seem to love those high ROF HPA set ups, but it's easy to have one shooting normally.

My old tippmann was great. Sensible ROF, great kick, Fantastic noise. 

I'd have another in a heartbeat

 

[Resistor170]

I did always wonder why the HPA section on here seemed so popular ??

 

[Aengus]

No, not the folks on here, we've all seen em at games though

I'm that person ?. My full auto rof is ridiculously high simply because it never gets used, only when emptying a mag or just pratting about. It's like owning a fast car; do you need it? No, is it nice to have the abilty to use it if you ever want? Yes, is it bloody fun when you do? Yes.

 

[Rogerborg]

I had seen lots of YouTube videos with hpa and high rof etc as a title and was never interested from then on.

If you judge airsoft by YouTube videos, it's nothing but CHEATERS being CAUGHT with 100 RPS JUSTICE because they BURNED someone's PATCH.

 

[Resistor170]

If you judge airsoft by YouTube videos, it's nothing but CHEATERS being CAUGHT with 100 RPS JUSTICE because they BURNED someone's PATCH.

Haha yes. I work with someone who doesn't play airsoft but has seen videos and it seems like these are some of the videos he has watched. It did make me think about what a deformed impression/view he must have about airsoft. 

I did wrongly judge HPA on these video titles and a few other things though

 

[Seth_Erebor]

There's something to cater for everyone, its all a spectrum and lets face it's not even that wide. Got open days to do what you want, then milsims, battlesims, gas only games bla bla - they all happen, you just might have to travel.

If there was a system whereby you had guns that had (lethality aside!) the exact same function as real guns that would indeed be cool as shit and would probably replace airsoft. But that's not gonna happen anytime soon. Things which are trying to emulate this function is stuff like MILES and of course simunition. But not are there obvious practical barriers  to using both those things to "skirmish" with, they have their downsides too.

So rather then looking at what airsoft is bad at you should look at what it is good at - which is actually quite a lot. But you have to make the most of that too, whether as a skirmisher or a event organiser or whatever.

I do need to try some offerings, what are the varying factors between events? Command, Vehicle, etc?

Exact same function? What do you mean, for example between an SMG (P90) and Rifle (SCAR-L)?

MILES is alright, but you end up with TESS-bravery.

What would an airsoft version of Simunition look like? BB for the paint/marker?