THE TM MWS thread

[Davegolf]

Yeh the trigger boxes are normally pretty slick, and have a less gritty takeup and faster/crisper reset once deburred, profiled and fine wet/dry

 

[TadsJ2]

No i havnt, where have you heard this? do you have a link?

plz provide source, I'm about to order one and would like to know where you got this from?

I've read the comments from one of the guy who claims to have seen buffer spring wrecked by HSB from TM discord server I am in, since I havent found any info about it here I wanted to ask you guys, I dont have any other source than this so thats why I wanted to ask the veterans in this field  

I already have HSB in my hands, so just wanted to be sure whether it should be safe to install - so gonna go ahead and do it, havent had a problem with what this thread has been suggesting me before  

 

[TadsJ2]

this is what baffled me...

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And the explanation from SixG:
 

Peoples buffer tube end caps fall out from time to time, this happens on stock guns, it vibrates itself undone, as with most things on GBBs loctite blue (243) is your friend. This is not because of the HSB.

The prime purpose of the HSB is to stop the buffer parts being hammered so hard, causing the above and shattered buffer 'part-B'.

I have never known a buffer spring to be broken because of the HSB, i cannot see any reason why this would be so, i actually think they may be getting confused because the image of a buffer spring posted is completely normal - AKA one end is supposed to have tighter wound coils (this end seats onto the buffer itself)

They are also misinformed as the HSB still allows the buffer to bottom out, he difference is that the spring rate is increased so that it doesnt hit as hard, and when it does contact it touches down onto the rubber bumper not sharp/cast stock tube end cap.

With regard to bolt lock on empty functionality, depending on the power of gas you are using you may or may not need to unscrew the buffer tube 1 turn.



So sorry if I raised some eyebrows, just wanted to make sure that HSB shouldnt do damage to MWS  

 

[alxndrhll]

this is what baffled me...

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And the explanation from SixG:
 

Peoples buffer tube end caps fall out from time to time, this happens on stock guns, it vibrates itself undone, as with most things on GBBs loctite blue (243) is your friend. This is not because of the HSB.

The prime purpose of the HSB is to stop the buffer parts being hammered so hard, causing the above and shattered buffer 'part-B'.

I have never known a buffer spring to be broken because of the HSB, i cannot see any reason why this would be so, i actually think they may be getting confused because the image of a buffer spring posted is completely normal - AKA one end is supposed to have tighter wound coils (this end seats onto the buffer itself)

They are also misinformed as the HSB still allows the buffer to bottom out, he difference is that the spring rate is increased so that it doesnt hit as hard, and when it does contact it touches down onto the rubber bumper not sharp/cast stock tube end cap.

With regard to bolt lock on empty functionality, depending on the power of gas you are using you may or may not need to unscrew the buffer tube 1 turn.



So sorry if I raised some eyebrows, just wanted to make sure that HSB shouldnt do damage to MWS  

Ahh the good ol' fashioned 'seen a guy'. You can always count on reliable information when it follows those 3 words.

 

[TadsJ2]

Ahh the good ol' fashioned 'seen a guy'. You can always count on reliable information when it follows those 3 words.

Yeah, after these comments I am starting to want to leave that discord server  

 

[alxndrhll]

Yeah, after these comments I am starting to want to leave that discord server  

People presenting second hand information with a definitive result just grind my gears. The fella initially asking followed up with 'Will this happen?' and the chap answering literally ignored the question and just said toss it. No reason, no further explanation, no break down of the parts being used alongside the spacer. Nope, the answer to the question will this happen to me wassss... toss it. Superb, I don't know who's more daft of the pair. The one asking the questions and taking the first answer he got at face value, or the clown spouting second hand garbage (the answer is both).

 

[TadsJ2]

People presenting second hand information with a definitive result just grind my gears. The fella initially asking followed up with 'Will this happen?' and the chap answering literally ignored the question and just said toss it. No reason, no further explanation, no break down of the parts being used alongside the spacer. Nope, the answer to the question will this happen to me wassss... toss it. Superb, I don't know who's more daft of the pair. The one asking the questions and taking the first answer he got at face value, or the clown spouting second hand garbage (the answer is both).

Worst part is the confusion of mostly everyone...

after I asked him directly how can he be sure whether HSB caused this he didnt respond  

 

[alxndrhll]

Worst part is the confusion of mostly everyone...

after I asked him directly how can he be sure whether HSB caused this he didnt respond  

Got too carried away with rapid fire facepalming to actually give my own first hand experience. Used both the Super Nub and HSB in my first MWS, will be doing the same in my second. Only other thing I touch is throwing an NPAS in there as and when it's needed and if I decide to use a BAD lever (which is unlikely because I'm currently planning on doing a carry handle build with this one) I'll use a lightweight bolt stop plate to ensure the bolt continues to lock reliably. Outside of that, don't see a reason to change anything internally.

 

[janman99]

Hi everyone. I just bought G&P Trigger box. I have a problem with it. After reload on SEMI only first trigger pull is fine, to shot next time I need to push the trigger forward and then pull. On full auto it works correct. I tried on Stock TM Bolt and Angry gun one. On both I have same issue. On the video MWS was after first shot. I can't find any manual for this trigger too. If anyone could help me with this issue or tell me which screw does what I will be very grateful.

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[sabaka]

now it looks like members of discord tm gbbr series group server are ignorants. that is not true. guys can help a lot, many good advices. that server is great source of informations. 

 

[ajumma]

On 16/06/2021 at 01:11, janman99 said:

Hi everyone. I just bought G&P Trigger box. I have a problem with it. After reload on SEMI only first trigger pull is fine, to shot next time I need to push the trigger forward and then pull. On full auto it works correct. I tried on Stock TM Bolt and Angry gun one. On both I have same issue. On the video MWS was after first shot. I can't find any manual for this trigger too. If anyone could help me with this issue or tell me which screw does what I will be very grateful.

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I'd recommend messaging RuninWorkshop on Facebook. They usually reply extremely quickly and they know this trigger box inside and out. It's likely that you haven't adjusted the grub screws properly yet. I think someone once told me that straight out of the factory the trigger boxes are shipped with the grub screws not adjusted at all or something which makes the trigger not reset, and you need to adjust one of the grub screws to get it to start working.

 

[SkyNex0]

I just have to share what I managed to do today. I got a trade for my old ics m4 aeg with gate titan with a spare upper and 3 uppergearboxes(ics got split gearboxes like ptws cylinders). For a brand new mws with 5mags, original bolt, a lightweight bolt, a spare crazy jet 370mm barrel and a kwa 1911 with 2 co2 maggs . Prolly my best trade ever .

 

[quango2k]

I've read the comments from one of the guy who claims to have seen buffer spring wrecked by HSB from TM discord server I am in, since I havent found any info about it here I wanted to ask you guys, I dont have any other source than this so thats why I wanted to ask the veterans in this field  

I already have HSB in my hands, so just wanted to be sure whether it should be safe to install - so gonna go ahead and do it, havent had a problem with what this thread has been suggesting me before  

i have one. A couple of times I have had the buffer stuck in the buffer tube. When stripping and poking it back loose the tapered end of the spring was folded in on itself causing the spring to bunch up and stick in the buffer tube. When I remove the HSB, this doesn't happen.  Take from this what you will. I know many have had no issues though. 

 

[SkyNex0]

Anyone installed the mws hao 416 kit? How was the fitment? Did the gun work flawless or was filing and fitment nessecary? Cheers

 

[Davegolf]

i have one. A couple of times I have had the buffer stuck in the buffer tube. When stripping and poking it back loose the tapered end of the spring was folded in on itself causing the spring to bunch up and stick in the buffer tube. When I remove the HSB, this doesn't happen.  Take from this what you will. I know many have had no issues though. 

Do you know what gas and at what temperature this happened?

 

[Patrolpointman]

So I finally got the proper early D-stock and pistol grip to finish off the XM16E1.

Pictured with my original M1955 Flak Vest.

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[EricBranado]

Hey Guys, i just wonder, does anyone custom  a Tokyo Marui MWS into PCC gun like this one

https://shrinke.me/Xl3ViwP

 

[Groot]

Converting to a DMR. Maybe I will find a new love then.

So I want to up the power and set to a single shot DMR.

I have searched on NPAS and Single shot mod, but failing to get the answers i want.. So I will politely ask directly.

What NPAS should I buy? The RA-Tech appears out of stock everywhere and seems to be the one people are using but hey ho.

What is the simplest mod to change the box to single shot, that could be reversed

Thanks

 

[Wavey_Gravey]

Hi all,

I’ve skimmed the whole thread, lots of talk about upgrades, internal and external etc…my question is…

Can I pick up an MWS, bone stock and run it without an NPAS or anything internally changed and run it sub 350fps just changing the gas strength depending on the weather?

 

[Groot]

Hi all,

I’ve skimmed the whole thread, lots of talk about upgrades, internal and external etc…my question is…

Can I pick up an MWS, bone stock and run it without an NPAS or anything internally changed and run it sub 350fps just changing the gas strength depending on the weather?

Yes, I would recommend Abbey Predator Ultra Gas. Not come unstuck yet using it but admittedly not run it on the hottest day of the year.