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THE TM MWS thread

Wild Weasel said:
Now them team mws,

I'm struggling a little bit with my cold weather operation, I know this has been covered before and I'm currently at page 57 rereading the entire thread, in the meantime can anybody give me some tips to get better cold-weather performance out of my mws?
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The easy solution, use stronger gas. If it is below 10 degrees I use red gas and it drops a little more then I switch to black gas and I have had no problems with it, Black gas at 5 degrees does not feel stronger than GG in the summer. AG I also use their nozzel and I am VERY satisfied have had no problems with it and it is super easy to adjust and keeps adjustment perfectly however it is a V2

TadsJ2 said:
Okay, I get the theory behind  TM valves, but it literally vents liquid green gas all around when i am trying to fill it with WE 2x or SMART GAS gg  and it is definitely not even close to being full then... With all stock and silent fill mod i also get to shoot ~85 shots which is 2,5 magazine, so you are suggesting me not to modify anything and spit liquid green gas? I've read here in this thread that someone changed the inlet valves to Laylax inlet valves and it solved their similar problems... Could you tell me what manufacturer's green gas are u using to fill your MWS mags and maybe someone could make a video how does the refill look like , maybe its the same for me as for you and I am searching for problems which isnt really the problem :D

Also how does one take the o-ring off when its already applied? :D
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I completely agree. I have also had brands that worked fairly well but it is far from all brands of GG. I ALWAYS weigh my magazines, to know how much gas is in them and I can not get more gas in them by not using 0-rings. And with o rings I have significantly less gas loss = more mags can be filled per bottle.
i use the ML "square" o rings 

 
Davegolf said:
Genuine armourer wrench, not some cheesium one.

Spare nozzle

Spare nozzle return springs

TechT GunSav

Parker gun oil

Mini screwdriver and pick set

Long Allen keys upto 5mm

(non of that ball hex crap :D )
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Thank you very much.

 
gunbod007 said:
Didn't see this one coming. 

Hop seems to be broken. Seems like it is stuck in place. Even if it is fully on or fully off it is making no difference to .28s. Going to test with .2 soon. But also no visible change at all when inspecting.

I am about to order the Super Six nub so hopefully that will solve it but I can't see how this is even happening.
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Late to this one but I made a mistake reassembling once and put the hop arm inside the upper above the arm that extends from the hop unit rather than underneath it which led to this exact problem, worth double checking you've not made the same mistake dude.

 
ReformedNiceGuy said:
Late to this one but I made a mistake reassembling once and put the hop arm inside the upper above the arm that extends from the hop unit rather than underneath it which led to this exact problem, worth double checking you've not made the same mistake dude.
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That is something I will ask him to check.

I don't have to tools to get it apart but thanks a lot!

 
TadsJ2 said:
Okay, I get the theory behind  TM valves, but it literally vents liquid green gas all around when i am trying to fill it with WE 2x or SMART GAS gg  and it is definitely not even close to being full then... With all stock and silent fill mod i also get to shoot ~85 shots which is 2,5 magazine, so you are suggesting me not to modify anything and spit liquid green gas? I've read here in this thread that someone changed the inlet valves to Laylax inlet valves and it solved their similar problems... Could you tell me what manufacturer's green gas are u using to fill your MWS mags and maybe someone could make a video how does the refill look like , maybe its the same for me as for you and I am searching for problems which isnt really the problem :D

Also how does one take the o-ring off when its already applied? :D
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@TadsJ2 I am currently using abbey predator/vertex for colder days and have used propane but runs too hot.  The valve is recessed quite deep in the mag, is the gas nozzle all the way in when you are filling, the abbey nozzles fit nicely.  In order to fully fill a magazine, you should be getting nothing spitting out until the last couple of bursts.  Once you get a little liquid coming out, stop.  Leave it for 10 seconds or so, then give it one last fill.  From that you should get 2 full mags plus another 20+ shots.  Angle is everything when engaging the gas can nozzle with the mag.  It is not vertical but about 20 degrees to the base plate angled towards the front of the mag.  If you fill vertically it will spray liquid everywhere.

I have some we x3 red and the metal nozzle of the can doesn’t seat as well with the mag, you have to give it a wiggle  in angle until it seats and then it works without spitting gas everywhere.  Abbey’s nozzles are narrower internally and externally.

As for taking the o rings out, never done it so wouldn’t like to comment.

@Davegolf Yes I meant no o-rings or green gas mod as all my mags are v2.

 
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Hello,

could someone tell me what size takedown pin is? 6,22mm or 6,29mm? (0.245" or 0.248")

Thank you

 
I wonder if the whole design thing was something to do with the official Daniel Defense licensing? Let’s face it the design is just bonkers as surely TM knows us boys like to tinker with our pew pews. It’s not logical. Anyway, it's an old story so "Move Along Nothing to See" to coin an expression ??‍♂️

 
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Taking inspiration from RMDavis's URGI build I bought a TM MWS M4A1 as a base for my own URGI build (was gonna get a CQBR but couldn't find one in stock). I have a Z-PARTS MARUI Mk16 DD GOV 10.3'' Steel Outer Barrel (MARUI-M4-030), a Z-PARTS MARUI M4 URG-I Airborne Charging Handle (MARUI-M4-028) and a HAO MK16 M-Lok 9.3" handguard which I bought from from J.K.ARMY (as HAO isn't shipping to the UK right now), but they sent me the wrong barrel nut, so I'm gonna send that back.

I've decided to buy a Zparts MK16 handguard instead, and possibly get a HAO one directly from HAO at a later date if the Zparts one isn't very good. I was gonna buy the Z-PARTS MARUI Mk16 9.3" Handguard-DDC (MARUI-M4-012), but Zparts said that I needed the Z-PARTS MARUI Mk16 9.3" Handguard-DDC (FOR ZPARTS) (MARUI-M4-017). I guess it's because I'm using the Zparts outer barrel, which is different to the stock M4A1 outer barrel. 

I'm fairly new to all this, so I wasn't sure if the Z-PARTS MARUI Mk16 9.3" Handguard-DDC (FOR ZPARTS) (MARUI-M4-017) would fit on a TM M4A1 upper receiver, or if it was just designed to fit on a Zparts MARUI M4 MWS Forged Receiver Set. So I asked them if they could confirm that the handguard would fit on a TM MWS M4A1 upper receiver.

I got two emails back from them, and in the first one they said that the handguard can theoretically fit on the TM M4A1, but they don't have an M4A1 to test.

And in the second email they said that their MARUI M4 MWS Forged Receiver Set is the same spec as "TM MWS M4", they also went onto say "So the rail and barrel can fit on as well. But we’re not sure is M4A1 same spec as M4. Please ask airsoft shop for further info.". I don't know what they mean by "M4". Perhaps they're referring to the TM MWS CQBR?

This really confused me, as I thought the receivers and internals of the TM MWS M4A1, CQBR, MK18 and the M4A1 Carbine are all the same and that the only differences between them are the handguards, barrels, stocks, and iron sights.

I decided to order that handguard today as that particular model seems quite hard to get hold of.

I'm just worried though that I may have completely screwed up and bought the wrong gun for a URGI build and that the handguard that I just ordered won't fit on my TM M4A1.

Hopefully someone can put my mind at rest. Are all the receivers and internals the same on the various models of the TM MWS? Do you think that the parts that I've bought will fit straight on my TM M4A1?

 
TaskForceBlackUK said:
Taking inspiration from RMDavis's URGI build I bought a TM MWS M4A1 as a base for my own URGI build (was gonna get a CQBR but couldn't find one in stock). I have a Z-PARTS MARUI Mk16 DD GOV 10.3'' Steel Outer Barrel (MARUI-M4-030), a Z-PARTS MARUI M4 URG-I Airborne Charging Handle (MARUI-M4-028) and a HAO MK16 M-Lok 9.3" handguard which I bought from from J.K.ARMY (as HAO isn't shipping to the UK right now), but they sent me the wrong barrel nut, so I'm gonna send that back.

I've decided to buy a Zparts MK16 handguard instead, and possibly get a HAO one directly from HAO at a later date if the Zparts one isn't very good. I was gonna buy the Z-PARTS MARUI Mk16 9.3" Handguard-DDC (MARUI-M4-012), but Zparts said that I needed the Z-PARTS MARUI Mk16 9.3" Handguard-DDC (FOR ZPARTS) (MARUI-M4-017). I guess it's because I'm using the Zparts outer barrel, which is different to the stock M4A1 outer barrel. 

I'm fairly new to all this, so I wasn't sure if the Z-PARTS MARUI Mk16 9.3" Handguard-DDC (FOR ZPARTS) (MARUI-M4-017) would fit on a TM M4A1 upper receiver, or if it was just designed to fit on a Zparts MARUI M4 MWS Forged Receiver Set. So I asked them if they could confirm that the handguard would fit on a TM MWS M4A1 upper receiver.

I got two emails back from them, and in the first one they said that the handguard can theoretically fit on the TM M4A1, but they don't have an M4A1 to test.

And in the second email they said that their MARUI M4 MWS Forged Receiver Set is the same spec as "TM MWS M4", they also went onto say "So the rail and barrel can fit on as well. But we’re not sure is M4A1 same spec as M4. Please ask airsoft shop for further info.". I don't know what they mean by "M4". Perhaps they're referring to the TM MWS CQBR?

This really confused me, as I thought the receivers and internals of the TM MWS M4A1, CQBR, MK18 and the M4A1 Carbine are all the same and that the only differences between them are the handguards, barrels, stocks, and iron sights.

I decided to order that handguard today as that particular model seems quite hard to get hold of.

I'm just worried though that I may have completely screwed up and bought the wrong gun for a URGI build and that the handguard that I just ordered won't fit on my TM M4A1.

Hopefully someone can put my mind at rest. Are all the receivers and internals the same on the various models of the TM MWS? Do you think that the parts that I've bought will fit straight on my TM M4A1?
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The z-parts urgi rail 100% fits the mws perfectly. Look at groots Post a page or so back. I installed it and it fits perfect. 

 
There’s a lot of discussion about the angry gun barrels. Are they all bad? I got an L119A barrel from angry gun. I haven’t had chance to fit it yet. What’s the main problem with them? 

 
Whereismyhammer said:
There’s a lot of discussion about the angry gun barrels. Are they all bad? I got an L119A barrel from angry gun. I haven’t had chance to fit it yet. What’s the main problem with them? 
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The issues seem to be that they "sort of" fit...if you are lucky. And if they do fit they might actually make things work worse than the stock ones.

 
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