The 'How Did Your Airsoft Day Go? Thread

[Adolf Hamster]

Yep, they do but giving a description is hard when they all look the same.

in your most recent post you seemed pretty confident it was one specific person, so not hard to point out?

Where I live, sites are very far and few, were talking about an hours drive to a game at another site.

i know the feeling, but the message you're giving the site currently is "don't worry about mr airsniper complaining about certain players, he'll grumble and moan on the internet and be back with a fresh set of green fee's next week"

All it takes is an attitude adjustment and to play by the rules, it is a game that uses the honour system and if players don't play by the rules and honour system it says a lot about that person.

yes it does, which is why the unfortunate truth is that whilst some venues might be able to maintain a better average, even an otherwise good site can be ruined by a couple of cunts picking that place on that weekend to show up and ruin everyone else's fun.

unfortunately, the human race's infinite ability to generate arseholes means this is a problem that airsoft will never be able to rid itself of.

end of the day this is a hobby played for fun, to enjoy ourselves, and if it's not possible to maintain enough good times to overrule the bad then why keep doing it? why expend the time, money and effort to keep doing something that's just making you angry and frustrated? 

 

[Colin Allen]

HPA has a lot to do with it. They cycle faster than AEG, in a game where you have one team of HPA and another of AEG's, the HPA will win because of the rate of fire and power difference.

In the last game I was at, the HPA was recognisable by how much faster the BB's were flying compared to the AEG's it is also noticeable by the fact that I again have small circular bruises despite having a vest, t-shirt, my game top, fleece and a plate carrier, and I have been hit with AEG's and whilst they sting, the HPA fire was actually hurting.

Most sites work on 1 joule on 0.2g which is 328 fps, 1.2 joules on 0.2g is 359 fps and max on sites fps wise is 350 fps.

IDK what AEG you have used but mine don't output 1.2 joules, they output 1 joule.

As for finding somewhere else to ply, why should I move when the other players need to change their attitude to game play and stick to the rules, they are there for the benefit of enjoyment, just seems to me a small number of guys that can't stick to the rules or play fair.

Yep, they do but giving a description is hard when they all look the same.

Where I live, sites are very far and few, were talking about an hours drive to a game at another site.

All it takes is an attitude adjustment and to play by the rules, it is a game that uses the honour system and if players don't play by the rules and honour system it says a lot about that person.

Have you considered that you may be pursuing a hobby for which you are not suited?  Playing airsoft seems to be very stressful for you; in particular, getting shot seems to really upset you.

Perhaps knitting would suit you better.

 

[Tactical Pith Helmet]

if it's not possible to maintain enough good times to overrule the bad then why keep doing it? why expend the time, money and effort to keep doing something that's just making you angry and frustrated? 

You've never been married have you.

 

[Dan Robinson]

Does strike me as odd that being shot at seems such an issue. 

As for breaking fingers at more than 20m with a BB... assuming I read that correctly?  I smell some bullshit frankly. Either that or medical attention should be sought immediately after selling all your kit.   There's some severe osteoporosis going on there. 

@AirSniper, From your description your running the Lebanon, not an airsoft field. Grow a pair, or grow sone lovely flowers instead. 

 

[Adolf Hamster]

You've never been married have you.

Dodged that particular bullet so far

 

[Madhouse]

Just got back from my local CQB - Z-mart.

Was a big night of firsts for me. First time with my own kit, using mid-caps, a side-arm, tracers, sights the whole lot.

What a bloody great night it was too, great mix of players from rentals to old-hands, springer shotguns to HPA. But we were all there to have fun and that’s exactly what we did.

Loved having my own kit and a tracer really does come into its own in indoor CQB. Mid-caps are fun but I was glad I decided to use a hi-cap as my last mag, only dipped into it twice but I was glad not to be worrying about being down to my last 100 rounds.

Having the sidearm was brilliant in tight stairwells, it’s also quicker to swap to that than change a mag mid fire-fight. It’s definitely gonna take a while to speed up my mag change!

Pew decided to briefly shit itself and stopped working but it turned out the mag detector thing had got out of place so a bit of a fiddle and I was back in the game.

Also need to remember that on a 1-point sling my rifle’s fairly close to the ground so ducking when using the pistol does mean it occasionally dinks the ground. Maybe I should look into a 2-point one to sling it onto my back.

TLR - awesome night at Z-mart

 

[Khyber]

@Madhouse glad you had fun mate. That first game with all your own kit is a memorable one. Mine was Feb last year and I still remember it well. So much more fun than rental. I know how you feel about the barrel hitting the ground when slung. I'm in the same boat. Not experimented much with sling setups but it can be annoying and obv dont want to damage that nice tracer on the end. Hope you find a solution. Keep having fun

 

[Skara]

on a 1-point sling my rifle’s fairly close to the ground

Yup, especially long, bulky rifles.

Get yourself a nice padded two points sling and it'll be night and day, even though it takes a little bit of time to get accustomed to.

 

[C-Diddy]

@Madhouse that's a special feeling, having your own kit, right? ? Sounds like a cracking night.

On the sling front, 1-point have their place, but long guns aren't one of them imho. I also don't like getting nailed in the balls if i drop my rifle for a pistol. Big fan of adjustable 2-points (padded BFG VCAS and a Ferro Slingster) which I find far more practical. There are a ton of options out there, including the adjustable ones that go from 2-point to 1-point. Just try and avoid the really cheap ones unless you're happy to see your musket bounce off the concrete.

 

[Madhouse]

@C-Diddy certainly was great using my own kit, not only is it the stuff I want to be playing with but it’s like officially being an Airsoft player. This community is great at making rentals feel welcome, but as a rental you still feel a bit of an outsider.

I was going to ask for recommendations for a two point sling but you’ve already given me a couple ?

 

[C-Diddy]

@Madhouse the slings I mentioned are 'real steel' (I really hate that term) but, because of that, you know they're unlikely to suddenly give out and send your pride and joy tumbling. You do pay for that privilege though, and often have to buy addition furniture (QD attachments, rail mounts etc) as well. Tactical Kit are great for holding stock and often run discounts, especially if you follow ATRG and/or Geardocrow on Insta. Apologies if you already know this btw. 

Magpul are another good option from what I hear, as are Viking Tactical, Haley Strategic and I like the look of the T-Rex Arms too. Bear in mind you don't need to spend the earth, but a decent sling will pay you back, and for me, 2-point is the way to go. 

The main point of your post though - having your own gear - no escaping it; you're one of us now! 

 

[Tactical Pith Helmet]

I use AK slings on virtually everything.   For extra security you can use a large Chicago stud.  Used to be less than a tenner.  Still cheap.  

 

[Madhouse]

Apologies if you already know this btw.

Totally didn’t, thanks for the info. Am off to follow some people on Insta now ….

Also gonna Google what a Chicago stud is, although I’m slightly concerned I’ll get a load of American male strippers ?

 

[Impulse]

Didn't really play much today as I had another of those days where everything went a bit wrong and we had to leave early anyway because the guy who gives us a lift had a family get-together this evening.

• MP9 mags need cleaning. I put BBs in one and they were all gunky by the time they got to the bottom. Going to give them a good clean! So that was out of play today because I'm not feeding disgusting dirty BBs through it.
  
• New holster for the HK45 is great, but I need to cable tie it to the molle platform as the buttons are utter shite and it kept coming loose and flipflopping around.
  
• Left-handed mk23 holster was uncomfortable as the molle drop leg platform buckles were digging into my side. I think I need a shoulder holster if I want to carry it alongside another pistol or SMG
  
• Forgot to gas up my m700 magazines so I went out into the first game with like... one and a bit mags. I managed to absolutely shut down and dominate a flank with about 32 - 35 BBs total, so that was nice, just waiting to take shots that I knew I could hit and not wasting a single BB was quite an exhilarating experience since a LOT of people started to push.
  
• Gassed all my mags for the 2nd game and spent a long time going on a large flank as I heard people fighting over where I wanted to go. I made it all the way around, came up on where I wanted to be, which had been cleared out by the time I got there, then game ended before I could get into position.
  

However, it was still a successful day. I gave up on playing after the first two games as I wanted to set up my HK45, since I haven't used it since I bought the TDC outer barrel from Hadron, and I wanted to set up the SR-25. That's where I found my success.

• The HK45 was cycling perfectly even though it was a bit chilly and went through the whole mag with no issues. Slings .32s out to about 60m with the setup I have (Hadron TDC + ML Autobot rubber), but not accurate past 50m. More than enough for a pistol.
  
• The SR-25 is firing at 1.05J super consistently on .32s and sailing them out to 60m with no issue, hitting the target with most shots and the hop rubber isn't even properly bedded in yet. However, more importantly I took a walk down the range while my friend fired it. On semi-auto, it's barely audible at 30m and you just flat out can't hear it at 40m and that's on a quiet range with nothing else going on nearby. On full-auto it's barely audible past 40m, but at 50m you also just don't hear it at all. Very happy with it since it's an AEG and it's quieter than some people's spring bolt actions!
  

Going to put the m700 away for a few game days I think. The gameplay at Worthing has been pretty abysmal recently so I feel like I'm going to need to play more aggressively which I just can't do efficiently with the m700. Nobody is taking much initiative and nobody is pushing, let alone pushing effectively; if I can lock down an entire flank with a bolt action rifle with about 35 BBs in total... Yeah. Going to put the full ghillie away and go with the cobra hood and the SR-25 for next game day and going to see just how much I can get away with. 650 BBs and an Odin speedloader with a universal adapter is a lot more than like... 80 shots from a gas-powered bolt action  

 

[RostokMcSpoons]

First skirmish in 10 months (ffs!).  I should have been at other sites, but never got off my slightly-fat arse to go try somewhere new.

So Special Ops opened up again, and I'm back on the field.   I had a selection of new guns to try, so I basically took 'em all, except for the M14.  I wish I'd taken that too, but no room in a long gun bag for it AND the sniper rifle, so the sniper got the nod.
I made a spreadsheet to try to get a grip on all the bits I needed, and what I could do to check / fettle before the big day (I posted it on another thread, I won't repost here, I look like an OCD loony enough already).   That approach actually worked quite well, I remembered everything I needed.   However, the sheer quantity of stuff it enabled me to drag along became overwhelming. 
To cut a long story slightly shorter I had intended to take some time fettling my new VFC GBBR and the Tippmann, but with the very large number of people on site (87 players?) I didn't get around to spending very much time on-range.   I ended up firing a few shots with each, didn't really do anything to them, and then concentrated on getting Ol' Faithfull (the magnificent Double Eagle M906C) and the TM AUG HC (shorter range spray'n'pray) ready for combat.
So what had been intended to be a major effort to fix my two most expensive (and potentially fun) guns instead became a rush to sort out my kit 'just to play'.  This really wasn't helped by the kit overflowing off the one small table I had to set up on.  I spent too much shuffling kit on and off to make use of the limited space.

Lesson learned : If I'm going to try to sort out a gun or two - just take them, plus the DE

My mood took a distinct turn for the worse when someone started firing their gun *on purpose* in the safe zone.  As the first shot actually fired a BB that pinged off a tarp very close to me, I very nearly lost my shit.  I'm going to draw a veil over what followed, because the chap came over to me and apologised profusely and shook my hand afterwards.  He realised he'd messed up big time.

Lesson learned for him : just because there's no mag in the gun, doesn't mean the barrel is empty

Hmmm. I've typed a lot already and we've not got to the chrono'ing yet
The chrono'ing took forever because of the sheer number of people.   There were already mutterings of discontent.   (I don't suppose I helped, turning up in the queue carrying 3 rifles and a pistol, but I got through it quickly and painlessly)   
The safety briefing kicked off maybe 30-45 minutes late?  Carlos and Will did their usual good humoured job explaining the site rules and splitting the players into teams.

Eventually the skirmish kicked off.  Zombies game to start, as a warm-up, then onto the normal stuff.  
The morning was a bit disappointing for me, and by the louder mutterings, quite a few other people.  Basically there were just too many players given the limited vegetation cover - so it all bogged down too easily.  People got tired of the long treks back to spawn after getting zapped by long shots from unseen players (as much 'too many angles to cover' as 'man disguised as tree with sniper rifle')

Those mutterings of discontent got louder and more frequent.   I don't think I've hear people complaining at Special Ops before. 
The good news was that a lot of people left at lunchtime (half-dayers and/or malcontents).  Yet the next games didn't go brilliantly either.  There was an unfortunate game where the out-of-bounds area was misidentified by a marshal, so a bunch of us were moved from our defensive positions just as we were being attacked in a 'no respawn' phase of a game.  That didn't go down well.

After that game, a bunch more left, and between the reduced player count, and a different style of game, things got a lot better.   I finished the day much happier.   I'd got killed (probably mostly by Dan from these forums, including a pistol shot to the back of the head!) an awful lot, and racked up relatively few kills myself, but I left happy enough. 
(If I'd gone home at lunchtime I would have been very disappointed with the whole experience)

Personal highlight of the day : My first attempt at sniping, with my Rossi M40/VSR clone .. first 3 shots = 3 kills at 60m.   
(I could have had a few more with that but I'd loaded up some of the mags with 0.25's for no sensible reason, and couldn't get the hop adjusted.  Also the safety lever kept falling into safe at very  inopportune moments, so went back to my AEGs)

 

[Tackle]

First skirmish in 10 months (ffs!).  I should have been at other sites, but never got off my slightly-fat arse to go try somewhere new.

So Special Ops opened up again, and I'm back on the field.   I had a selection of new guns to try, so I basically took 'em all, except for the M14.  I wish I'd taken that too, but no room in a long gun bag for it AND the sniper rifle, so the sniper got the nod.
I made a spreadsheet to try to get a grip on all the bits I needed, and what I could do to check / fettle before the big day (I posted it on another thread, I won't repost here, I look like an OCD loony enough already).   That approach actually worked quite well, I remembered everything I needed.   However, the sheer quantity of stuff it enabled me to drag along became overwhelming. 
To cut a long story slightly shorter I had intended to take some time fettling my new VFC GBBR and the Tippmann, but with the very large number of people on site (87 players?) I didn't get around to spending very much time on-range.   I ended up firing a few shots with each, didn't really do anything to them, and then concentrated on getting Ol' Faithfull (the magnificent Double Eagle M906C) and the TM AUG HC (shorter range spray'n'pray) ready for combat.
So what had been intended to be a major effort to fix my two most expensive (and potentially fun) guns instead became a rush to sort out my kit 'just to play'.  This really wasn't helped by the kit overflowing off the one small table I had to set up on.  I spent too much shuffling kit on and off to make use of the limited space.

Lesson learned : If I'm going to try to sort out a gun or two - just take them, plus the DE

My mood took a distinct turn for the worse when someone started firing their gun *on purpose* in the safe zone.  As the first shot actually fired a BB that pinged off a tarp very close to me, I very nearly lost my shit.  I'm going to draw a veil over what followed, because the chap came over to me and apologised profusely and shook my hand afterwards.  He realised he'd messed up big time.

Lesson learned for him : just because there's no mag in the gun, doesn't mean the barrel is empty

Hmmm. I've typed a lot already and we've not got to the chrono'ing yet
The chrono'ing took forever because of the sheer number of people.   There were already mutterings of discontent.   (I don't suppose I helped, turning up in the queue carrying 3 rifles and a pistol, but I got through it quickly and painlessly)   
The safety briefing kicked off maybe 30-45 minutes late?  Carlos and Will did their usual good humoured job explaining the site rules and splitting the players into teams.

Eventually the skirmish kicked off.  Zombies game to start, as a warm-up, then onto the normal stuff.  
The morning was a bit disappointing for me, and by the louder mutterings, quite a few other people.  Basically there were just too many players given the limited vegetation cover - so it all bogged down too easily.  People got tired of the long treks back to spawn after getting zapped by long shots from unseen players (as much 'too many angles to cover' as 'man disguised as tree with sniper rifle')

Those mutterings of discontent got louder and more frequent.   I don't think I've hear people complaining at Special Ops before. 
The good news was that a lot of people left at lunchtime (half-dayers and/or malcontents).  Yet the next games didn't go brilliantly either.  There was an unfortunate game where the out-of-bounds area was misidentified by a marshal, so a bunch of us were moved from our defensive positions just as we were being attacked in a 'no respawn' phase of a game.  That didn't go down well.

After that game, a bunch more left, and between the reduced player count, and a different style of game, things got a lot better.   I finished the day much happier.   I'd got killed (probably mostly by Dan from these forums, including a pistol shot to the back of the head!) an awful lot, and racked up relatively few kills myself, but I left happy enough. 
(If I'd gone home at lunchtime I would have been very disappointed with the whole experience)

Personal highlight of the day : My first attempt at sniping, with my Rossi M40/VSR clone .. first 3 shots = 3 kills at 60m.   
(I could have had a few more with that but I'd loaded up some of the mags with 0.25's for no sensible reason, and couldn't get the hop adjusted.  Also the safety lever kept falling into safe at very  inopportune moments, so went back to my AEGs)

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[Emergencychimps]

Did the Gunman Airsoft Night game at Tuddenham.......it was great, easily some of the most interesting events that are happening in airsoft in my opinion at the moment. 

It's their second attempt at running a night game (3 hours long) as one single game, it wasn't perfect but my god it's got potential and the site is very open to feedback. Previously their night games have been like skirmishes in a small, but interesting part of their site (the village if you know the site). These events take advantage of the whole site, extra buildings, dense woodland, open areas, tracks, ridgelines trench network etc.

Single shot only unless you have a genuine LMG/support weapon, relevant medic rules, mix of objectives, regen hikes weren't silly.  There was also really good use of additional lightning, a few big floodlights and lots of dark areas, the site is big enough to cope with what they are doing!

Objectives were provided, with a map and grid references with times that the objectives were open for. Marshalls were present when needed (generally around objectives) but didn't ruin the night team sneakiness when not. Hit taking was good (night games are tricky to enforce). It seemed like a lot of objectives were near each other at similar times, or in a way that you'd have to cross the route from their respawn to their objectives (which we didn't know) to get to your objectives. Much confusion around who is on your team etc. There was a command net and command element that gave out a couple of extra objectives throughout the evening.

It genuinely felt like the best bits of a mini milsim. Mix of players with and without night vision, thermal, some with torches and tracer units etc. Made it a really interesting evening. Some of the players had travelled from Derby and Watford for it. 

Every other night game they are doing is one of the more immersive types covered above, the others are basically skirmishes in the village. If you're looking to just shoot people in the dark, do the night skirmishes skirmishes, if you want that bit extra, do the more immersive ones. 

Very impressed with the management at Tuddenham, massive improvements to the site and the type of events they are running. Really upping the experience of what can be done and achieved, the sort of thing I am sure we all want from our sites. 

Re reading this, it sounds like an advert for the site but I am just a customer, albeit a very happy one. 

 

[Tactical Pith Helmet]

I meant to do Tudders this weekend, day and night.  I love night games there.  I had a memorable one were I lost both contact lenses and didn't notice until the marshals saved me from wandering around in the plantation chasing a marshal wearing a nightstick that I mistook for a torch...  Poor chap was most unimpressed that some idiot was potting him despite the hi-viz.  

What I did was wake up at 13:30 with a pounding hangover, a sense that the preceding evening had gone awry, and that a bit of rest was required.  Shame as several people have commented on how good it was.  

 

[GeorgePlaysAirsoft]

yes very impressed with gunman tuddenham it has now become my "local" - they basically seem to do everything right which is very refreshing. the saturday night game was very good fun though (and feedback was provided so this isn't a totally unproductive moan) i thought our little squad of "the leftovers" was somewhat penalised for playing the objective as we didn't get any contact for 1.5hrs. fine for a 24h "milsim", less so for a 3hr "mini-sim". I wasn't sure if that was because the enemy team had no reason to intersect our path or whether they were just unable to. On the otherhand, its a testament to how fun nodding about at night is as that 1.5hrs went very quickly and felt more like 30 mins, if that.

 

[ghostwalker]

Got out to battleastations activities on sunday for the 1st time in nearly a year.

Thoughts.

ICS mars rocked as usual.

KWA erg, new hop rubber and a bit of tlc rocked along (thankfully).

I suck with pistols.

Dynatex timed bfg's are so darn reliablke even if i have set myself on fire with one before.

I can also fog up anything in existence. ESS crossbow supressors, fog stop, Delta Mike face pro and a helmet. Blind as a bat.

Marathon training meant i didnt feel as knackered as i usually would.

Battlestations site.

Maybe it's nostalgia. But i prefer the old site with battletown and modern warfare. But the new site works well enough. Just feels a tad samey between the 2 fields. Could also really use some netting between the 2 gamezones to stop the accidental shooting across zones.