The 'How Did Your Airsoft Day Go? Thread

[TheFull9]

Yeah I was yellow too, I probably did see you at least I recall a father and son pair and the lad seemed to be playing right which is always a pleasure to watch compared to some of the drug-up little... annoyances, that get sent to games just so their parents don't have to deal with them for a day.

Don't know if we're talking about the exact same bloke, but a little while after he was blatantly cheating while talking to me he was wasting the time of 2 marshals complaining about a red player for something; it's always those types.

 

[leadly]

Got invited to a trial day at a new CQB site that's opening up in Long Eaton! UKFOB The Grow House! Top night, I'll definitely be spending a lot of time over there! My shotty on 6 shot worked wonders with my PCU tracer on!!

 

[Rogerborg]

I tried Players of War again today. Ehhhhhh.

Generally fair play, but it had all the usual airsoft foibles.  A site that's too big leading to low density play and long walks to respawns (generally ignored), voluntary chronoing, no chronoing or test shots in game, marshals standing in clumps bantering, player-marshals doing all playing and no marshalling, no advice or support for new players, briefings that turned into pointless lectures, poorly thought out and controlled games that were either grinding attrition matches or over in seconds, and too many Lord Flashheart wannabes among the regulars for my tastes.

Did I enjoy myself?  Sure, laughs were had.  Am I making allowances for it being their last game of the year, and a "school's out" attitude among the marshals?  A bit. Will I be back?  Doubtful.

 

[Skara]

Numbers are low these days, but we finally managed to have a day out shooting.

I managed to "fix" my AK, when I plugged the battery in, though, the nozzle decided to leak like crazy which made the gun unusable..

So back to ol' reliable (KA PDW).

Games went well, we had a few people who were trying out Airsoft for the first time and overall a fun, cold day.

Also had the chance to share some of my teching knowledge with a couple of people, so hopefully they won't make silly purchases based on YouTube reviews

 

[Cannonfodder]

First time visiting Ambush Airsoft yesterday and overall was a great day, despite the cold and missing the first game because I overslept. Hit taking was good with only a couple of questionable moments but no obvious cheating. 

Marshals did a good job too, making sure everyone knew what was going on, and I thought they managed to find a good balance between being close enough to keep an eye on the game but without getting in the way. 

All in all I'll definitely be back

 

[Impulse]

Today managed to be awful. Absolute unadulterated awful. First game was great and I got a lot done (set up my m700 at 2.25J and it was firing amazingly, probably even better than my HPA VSR setup) and I really enjoyed it, however after the second game I called it a day. Called out exactly what the other team were going to do as I knew they would flank around a certain area and so I went and positioned for it, however by the time they got around everything was so wet from the downpour that had ramped up that my glasses had fogged and my scope had fogged so I couldn't see anything through it and therefore my m700 basically became useless. I was just watching the other team do their flank, another example like last game day of being in an amazing position where I could start picking them all off one by one and other factors just making it useless. Got hit as I was trying to get some of the moisture off my scope (it didn't help...) and so then I came back out with just a pistol. Got in behind their flanking push and got two in the back, who called it and started walking off as dead men as they didn't think anyone was around to medic them. They walked about 10m away and as they rounded the bush, I noticed them walk over to one of their team mates who then started medicing them, which is literally cheating once they have walked off from where they got shot. I shot at him as well and they just didn't call it at all, then I got shot by one of their friends who then decided to have a go at me for not taking my hits while his friends were blatantly cheating right in front of me as I had emptied 2 mk23 magazines full of .32s into them with a fairly straight shot and no foliage in the path; was watching the BBs hit them and nothing happening. I called it anyway and went back to respawn, but no idea if they did in the end. Came back out after respawning, got in behind another one of them, gun jammed and as I was fixing it I got friendly fired in the side of the head. I called it there as I was starting to get more than a bit perturbed and being soaked through wasn't helping the matter (torso was dry, but legs and feet were soaking wet). Won't have another skirmish day until a month's time as my local site cancelled their next one on account of it being on New Year's Day and everyone would be hung over (especially one of the site owners... ?), so I'm really bummed out that this one was so damn frustrating.

Only good things, outside of the first game, was non-skirmish related stuff. I got a setup for my shorter m700 that allows me to go with either 1.1J or 2.3J depending on gas used, width of gas router and hammer spring adjustment, so that will be my bolt action of choice at both 1.1J and 2.3J games going forwards. I love the gas m700 platform; it's probably my favourite airsoft gun I've ever used and worked on in all 17 years of playing (and as it's just a regular m700 which was very much around in the 70s, GIs beware the farmer in pyjamas with an m700 and a ruger pistol at Vietnam games in 2023 ). Secondly, I got my two AEGs back from the tech I entrusted them to, as I can't do AEG gearboxes because they are techno-wizardry, and they're amazing and I'm so happy I just decided to pay someone to do the work on the everything-apart-from-hop-and-barrel. The m14 is firing at 1.05J consistently on .32s and slinging them out to where I need them to go, while also being lovely and snappy and pretty damn quiet for an AEG; fairly tight grouping even at 60m, so that's a useful, reliable backup gun (and again, GIs beware as it's also period accurate!). The SR-25 had a bit of an issue where the nozzle wasn't going far enough forward so the air seal was being crap and firing at 0.1J - 0.3J, but the guy fixed it there on the spot by filing away some material from the tappet plate (had already spoken to him as there were parts that I had that I needed to put in on the day before we could properly test it). With an m110 spring in it, it was firing at 0.775J incredibly consistently (lowest shot was 0.771J, highest was 0.775J), so I'm going to try an m120 or m130 to get it as close to 1.1J on .4s with the hop set as possible, so if I get it to slightly over 1.14J, I'll wait and see for next month when I get it set up and hop set on it as it will probably need a bit to lift those .4s at 1.1J. Quick change springs are wonderful things and the only reason I'm content to do that part myself!

Anyway, I've waffled on enough, but I'm angy and wanted to scream into the aether.

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[Tactical Pith Helmet]

You'll have to get a lot of du ban GI in next year @Impulse!  

 

[EDcase]

Yep, fogging and cheating bastards will put a serious downer on a game.

Just remember, they can't all be great game days...

 

[Cr0-Magnon]

team mates who then started medicing them, which is literally cheating once they have walked off from where they got shot. I shot at him as well and they just didn't call it at all, then I got shot by one of their friends who then decided to have a go at me for not

This seems a fairly common occurrence. I've definitely experienced it more than once. I shot two guys with my DMR, they walked until they found a team mate, who I also shot as soon as he got the medic band in his hand, he then handed it to the guy he was supposed to be healing, who was apparently automatically back in the game to medic him back in. It took another five or so hits of this three person unit before they decided to concede.

This is why we can't have nice things.

 

[Impulse]

You'll have to get a lot of du ban GI in next year @Impulse!  

Gunman Namsoft is my favourite airsoft to do and the guy I get a lift with is no longer staff at Worthing, so no more of this only playing on the Saturday because we have to get back for Sunday skirmish! Looking forward to the 2023 season of it (I do wish I didn't have to wear the black PJs because it's awful camo, but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make!)

Yep, fogging and cheating bastards will put a serious downer on a game.

Just remember, they can't all be great game days...

Yeah, I've done this long enough to know that, but I've had a rough few months of game days so it stung extra as I was hoping to go out on a bang for 2022. First it was injury meaning I could only play half the day, had an inflamed nerve in my head for about a month that meant my head started hurting as soon as I started lightly jogging and then had an injured foot straight afterwards for another month, then after injury it was various gun issues (had a falling out with HPA after the disappointment of last game day's leak) and a large learning curve for the m700 setups, learning what setups work in what temperatures and what internals work best.

This seems a fairly common occurrence. I've definitely experienced it more than once. I shot two guys with my DMR, they walked until they found a team mate, who I also shot as soon as he got the medic band in his hand, he then handed it to the guy he was supposed to be healing, who was apparently automatically back in the game to medic him back in. It took another five or so hits of this three person unit before they decided to concede.

This is why we can't have nice things.

It's probably the rule I see broken the most outside of general non-hit taking, next to not going all the way back to. Either walking off to get mediced, or medicing someone and using them as a shield so the medicing player doesn't get hit (still cheating, if either player is hit at Worthing while being mediced, both are out)

 

[EDcase]

I haven't played a game with medics yet and I already prefer the simple respawn rule.  Most games I've played have a moving respawn with a marshal there to verify

 

[Cr0-Magnon]

I really like Invicta Battlefield in Tonbridge, Kent but all of their games have a two medic band rule. This effectively gives every player three lives at a time. This becomes especially frustrating when using a DMR/BASR, because a small team of five people behind some cover would take fifteen hits to be cleared. 

 

[Enid_Puceflange]

I tried Players of War again today. Ehhhhhh.

Generally fair play, but it had all the usual airsoft foibles.  A site that's too big leading to low density play and long walks to respawns (generally ignored), voluntary chronoing, no chronoing or test shots in game, marshals standing in clumps bantering, player-marshals doing all playing and no marshalling, no advice or support for new players, briefings that turned into pointless lectures, poorly thought out and controlled games that were either grinding attrition matches or over in seconds, and too many Lord Flashheart wannabes among the regulars for my tastes.

Did I enjoy myself?  Sure, laughs were had.  Am I making allowances for it being their last game of the year, and a "school's out" attitude among the marshals?  A bit. Will I be back?  Doubtful.

I’ve heard mixed things about the site

Despite them seeming to enjoy the whole WWII style of “re enactment “ one of our regular players was handed a ban from the site for wearing German WWII nazi collar insignia on his jacket

Now while this is questionable, and separate discussions have been had on this topic. 
I feel this is a bit stupid, seeing as they have a load of their regular players badges and ranked up to the max!

I’ve avoided the place like the plague

Apparently, one of the site operators likes to wear Lederhosen in her free time!

go figure ??‍

 

[AirSniper]

Played last game of the year at usual site.

Not impressed.

Cheaters Galore and some dirty play.

there were 4 players that never took their hits but continued to shoot and two or maybe three specifically targeting hands. Why you may wonder, simple, targeting hands means the person is less effective at shooting back and I have a minor fracture of my index finger on my right hand as a result. 

I overheard some *anker gloating about taking groin shots... Yeah I know, I got plenty of BB Bruises on the top of my legs.

*issed off about it that much that I left the game and I expect thats why several others left the game because of dirty play and cheaters. 

Then there was the overkill, despite calling out hit and signalling being hit, still got lit up, seems that some people don't look and see if the player is out or in the game and just shoot. I noted that the majority of cheaters were HPA users.

For a game that uses the honour system, it sure tells people alot about you as an individual if you ignore the rules. Think that the lesson is lost on these sorts.

Another trend I have seen are groups within a team, that when they get hit, only one goes back to tag in themselves and team mates as their teammates stay in the game and continue game play.

Even my lad who enjoys the sessions was *issed off, he never throws his guns and eyepro on the table but that game... 

What this sport needs is a full membership system that is linked across the country, a ban on one site is a ban on all sites. Clear out the trash and *sshole gamers.

 

[Impulse]

I noted that the majority of cheaters were HPA users.

Normally I would chime in here and say "not all HPA users are bad" but I'm having a falling out with my own HPA systems at the moment because they're both being annoying to the point where I may sell them both and no longer be part of the club as I doubt I will go back to it because my gas systems are better and my AEGs are more reliable, sooooo...

Sucks to hear that your last game of the year was a bad one. Mine was as well. The idiots specifically targeting hands and groins are worse than the Kicking Mustangs who go for headshots; headshots sting, but hand shots and groin shots sting even worse, as as you said, the hand is fairly easy to fracture if they hit you in the right place with enough force. I only go for hand or groin shots if the person I'm shooting at hasn't taken their body shots and then also hasn't taken their headshots afterwards.

 

[AirSniper]

Normally I would chime in here and say "not all HPA users are bad" but I'm having a falling out with my own HPA systems at the moment because they're both being annoying to the point where I may sell them both and no longer be part of the club as I doubt I will go back to it because my gas systems are better and my AEGs are more reliable, sooooo...

Sucks to hear that your last game of the year was a bad one. Mine was as well. The idiots specifically targeting hands and groins are worse than the Kicking Mustangs who go for headshots; headshots sting, but hand shots and groin shots sting even worse, as as you said, the hand is fairly easy to fracture if they hit you in the right place with enough force. I only go for hand or groin shots if the person I'm shooting at hasn't taken their body shots and then also hasn't taken their headshots afterwards.

There was a guy that I repeatedly hit, even when I used aerodynamics to banana my shots around a corner, could see the BB's bouncing off the guy and yet, still putt their head around the corner and lit me up. I said to the one marchal that I'm fed up of the other team not taking their hits and I'm leaving the game.

As for my finger, I can feel the fracture callus right on the index finger joint, still sore 10 days on, only because of where it is and on the same finger that had a bad fracture to it.

Head shots in my book are only OK when the only target presented is a head, I tend to offer up a load of real estate to take a pop at and it really gets my back up when I get headshots  when I have a bigger target on offer, I had a pair of eyepros broken that cost me £175 because they are prescription lenses and rated higher than the minimum EN rating for airsoft... Just shows how hard HPA hits are. I'd go as far as HPA should be relegated to outdoor use only and not CQB sites.

One of the guys attending that was also discussing the issue at the site said that you get the Friday night games and Saturday gamers who are there to blow off steam and generally don't follow the rules, it defeats the object of the game if the rules are not followed, a few seconds out the game and you're back in and don't see why people need to cheat. You learn better tactics by following the rules as you learn from your mistakes.

 

[Impulse]

Played a half day today at a private game with the staff and a few of the long-time regulars at my local airsoft site. My only gripe is that I didn't bring the m700 as the forecast was "it will piss it down all day" and sniping in the rain is just an awful experience. Wanted to run my GBBR AKM, but I felt it was just a bit too nippy for that too, so I chose to run the m21 (the AEG one, not the HPA one that jams).

We played until about 1pm and it was really mild. Strong winds meant shots did veer off to one side quite often, but it was a very enjoyable day of 10v10 where everyone involved was experienced and knew the site. I was expecting to remove the scope mount from my m21 early on as soon as the rain started, but the rain didn't come and I got some cracking shots with it. However, I definitely prefer my bolt action, since I found that while the m21 is quiet for an AEG, as soon as I pulled the trigger people on the other team immediately had a rough idea where I was, where if I use my m700 they have no idea at all. It started pissing it down as we were finishing lunch and we all decided to call it there

Was good to get out and I'm looking forward to a normal skirmish day next week, as long as the weather is either dry or not freezing cold. I don't mind wet as I can use my GBBRs, I don't mind cold as I can use my m700 in all temperatures, I really dislike wet and cold because it means I have to use my only AEG (which is still a sniper rifle, just I have to run it with iron sights) as I can't use my GBBRs or any of my scoped rifles  

 

[JustMark]

Had a good day too, played until about 3pm and was wet through but enjoyed it immensely!  Sadly not everyone shares my enthusiasm for being out in the rain though so our teams were much diminished by the last game.

Eye pro was much better with the Sawfly plus inserts solution so I could see way better than with the paintball mask.  Just looking at when I can squeeze a game in around the six nations for Feb now!

 

[Skara]

First game of the year was a short, wet cqb session at the abandoned fort.

8 people, we played a few 4v4s with pistols, which gave me the chance to finally use my TTI AAP carbine.

I definitely need higher sights as the Evo ones I bought for it are way, way too low. And maybe a torch.

 

[AirSniper]

First game of the year and ... Cheaters galore, its obvious when you hit someone that they know that they have been hit.

I popped my head out of where I was to see what the player was doing and he said "Oh... did you hit me?" and another player unloaded on me whilst I was answering the player, I shouted to the player to "Cut it out" and got an indignant "You what" reply.

The owner had to address the issue of spamming, that on video its clear that some players were rapid firing and not giving players a chance to signal that they are hit as the HPA players were unloading at full auto speeds, not giving others a chance in the game. There is a lack of etiquette and observation of the rules by some people in airsoft that would be very off putting to new players and kids.

I had my CREE M3 Illuminator blown out by an HPA player that was clearly overpowered by the way the BB's were exploding on my helmet, RIF and the LED element behind the perspex glass was destroyed. 

Also had a G&G UVT106 damaged from being hit. I wasn't the only person to have their tracer unit damaged. It was also very clear when I was using my non tracer pistol that players were being hit but because it was non tracer, they were not taking the hits.

Another broken finger from game play... 

One player had been to a game at another site and had their nose broken from being hit in the face.

A marshal had to have words with one of the HPA players about their spamming as plenty of people were clearly complaining about one of the players (HPA Player) and they were playing it ignorant until they got lit up by another player and he was then "I see what you mean".

In general the game play was overly aggressive which sucked most of the game enjoyment out of the day.  
 

WTF is wrong with HPA players?  People go to have fun, not to get hurt or have equipment smashed or damaged.