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Macks airsoft dreamers of the week thread

I have an opposing theory: it’s not mud, it’s vomit. 
 

They went to a game, mentally added up how much they’d spent on building a toy gun only to be shot by a 14-year-old with a rental, heaved then left and sold up out of embarrassment. 

 
It's not a problem asking 100% of the retail cost if that's what you want (yes you'll end up back here but so what?), might take longer to sell the item & might drop your price a few times but you'll eventually get an offer, up to the seller if they accept it.
Not quite the same, but I did something similar, asking for roughly the new price I had paid, but I had paid a much reduced sponsor / supported price 

It was genuinely hardly used due to the size of my armoury, and a specific limited edition colour/design and bagged in the original case that only came with a short original run.

Not that any value is added, but it had only been serviced by the manufacturer tech guy, and maintained by our certified team tech guy

There may have only been two in the country, and it’s the only one I had seen in the country 

(I say two because my team mate had put his name down for that colour version before we were offered a team deal, but couldn’t wait and took a standard - his may have sat on the shelf or I might have actually ended up with the one earmarked for him)

I decided to sell due to the value and lack of use - I had used it once and loaned it out 2 or 3 times.  However I wasn’t going to let it go cheaply as I didn’t need the money, otherwise I may as well hang on 

That meant I was in the situation of asking for X but getting low ball offers, I was open to offer but not willing to drop heavily 

I’d get low offers telling me that just because it’s a limited colour doesn’t mean it’s worth more (OK then - buy one of the many standard ones available), or that the colour was a little more widely available in the US (OK, go and import one then), also that there was a small rub on the barrel (OK, don’t buy it) and finally that a UK retailer was listing one from new (OK, try buying that one at full retail price - a few hundred £ more than me - until you get to the cart to be told it’s out of stock) 

It did take me something like a year to sell, during which time I got a couple of ‘one last time’ games with it ….. and sold it on eBay (breaching rules) at an acceptable offer and during a promotional fees discount selling a £1400 - £1500 retail gun, (I had paid nowhere near that - probably trade price) for about £50 to £100 less than I had paid and obtained some use from it, and it sold to somebody who appreciated the mainly visual limited edition elements 

A private sale can happily be made between two people for an agreed price, that one is willing to part for and the other is willing to pay

As long as one isn’t purely ripping off newbies with exaggeration then it should be fine

 
Guess someone didn't read Ebay rules about RIF's, as its gone now.
Serves em right, sweeps together a pile of mismatched parts, & calls it an "airsoft starter kit", that's right up there with "action man deserter" & "military intelligence" for misleading descriptions.

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Serves em right, sweeps together a pile of mismatched parts, & calls it an "airsoft starter kit", that's right up there with "action man deserter" & "military intelligence" for misleading descriptions.

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TBF, there were a couple of tasty grenades in the bundle I was tempted with ?

 
https://www.usedairsoft.co.uk/rif-s/gas-powered_1/tokyo-marui-g18c-fully-upgraded_i63929

"Fully upgraded", apparently.

No mention of the recoil and hammer spring upgrades

No mention of the outer barrel being threaded for tracer units

No mention of the nozzle or trigger assemblies

Just one brand mentioned in the upgrades (Maple Leaf for the inner barrel, hop unit and presumably bucking)

"NO TIME WASTERS OR DREAMERS."

Righto. You want £450 but you have wasted time not itemising the upgrades to warrant that price?

 
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https://www.airsoft-hub.com/item/35661-bulldog-m4pi-two-tone-blue

Currently £120. "Never been used"

That doesn't make it worth more than its bloody retail value!

https://www.justbbguns.co.uk/bulldog-m4pi-ris-cqb-airsoft-gun/
Sad to say some unlucky fool will buy it without doing their homework then realise they’ve been done big time after.
 

Seems to me that’s what all these chancers are hoping for, just one fool is all it takes.
 

I’ve always thought of Mack’s as a decent place to learn a lesson or two before buying, makes it indispensable not only for  great hilarity but knowledge also. 

 
https://www.airsoft-hub.com/item/35661-bulldog-m4pi-two-tone-blue

Currently £120. "Never been used"

That doesn't make it worth more than its bloody retail value!

https://www.justbbguns.co.uk/bulldog-m4pi-ris-cqb-airsoft-gun/
A few years ago a friend of a friend bought one of these, definitely bulldog brand m4 type, but unsure of model, even though I'd warned him to speak to me before buying anything, he didn't listen, spent about £150 on what was being marketed as a "ready to play starter gun", & then played a few games.

It went bang pretty soon after, I get asked would I look at it, but told him you'd be better returning it under warranty, can't remember the reason he then gave me but apparently returning it wasn't an option, so I agreed to have a look at it, repair if possible, failing that salvage whatever I could.

He drops it round in a bag, remember at this point I've not seen it, & knew nothing about it.

OMFG?

It was like a child's toy you'd buy for £15 at an obscure Sunday market, other than being m4 shaped it had nothing remotely like what we would call an m4, even the most basic rifle that the cheapest recognised manufacturers might sell looked like a systema in comparison. 

It didn't strip per se, just lots of screws up & down the body, & even though I was disgusted by it & was struggling to control the bile at the back of my throat, I went ahead & took it apart, in the forlorn hope I'd spot something simple that could be put right & not break this fellers heart, knowing what he'd paid.

An hour later I told him to come & get it, handed him his bag & said sorry, couldn't be fixed, when he asked was anything salvageable I pointed that all the little screws were in a sandwich bag, & he might find a use for them one day, but everything else, even the mag & battery, should be binned & if he ever bought again without talking to me first, he was to delete my number from his contacts.

Seriously, they are an abomination & should be banned from all insured sites & buyers neutered, it's the only way to reduce their numbers.

 
It's probably said here before but the "Bulldog" brand are exclusively SRC OEM distributed to justbbguns with internal grade parts worse to any major manufacturer standard over a decade ago 

I can only attribute the success of these two-tone sales to marketing, as there is absolutely 0 reason to buy those over Specna Arms/Delta Armory most basic entry lines which are arguably still cheaper.

 
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