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Macks airsoft dreamers of the week thread

Rogerborg said:
Oooooh, lording it over us with your fancy £70 pistols, are you?  Does your butler shoot that for you? :P
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Lol, that was the price of my first tm hi-capa, s/h, completely stock, kicked like a mule & shot like a laser.

#TMFTW ?

 
ImTriggerHappy said:
Best one ever, professionally upgraded by someone who isn't a tech? 

Breaks bits when fitting say he spent hours setting motor height which should only take seconds. All perfect now except for the whine that makes it sound like a double eagle ak. But professionally done ........ erm ok.

https://airsoft-forums.uk/classifieds/item/5543-professionally-upgraded-gg-tr4-18-w-gate-titan/#
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Rough prices:

Gun: 320

airlab sorbo: 6

piston: 13

cylinder head: 12

ball bearings: 29

anti reversal latch: 6

16:1 gears: 40

gate titan: 76

motor: 50

zci chamber + barrel + maple leaf bucking + nub: 40

Add those up = 592

592 x magic number 0.7 = 414.4, 415 for ease.

Am I allowed to have £50 labour cost for myself? £465. Parcelforce is £15. £480. This is how I arrived at this number.

And, I am a tech. There are people who contact me to get their stuff done. And, the definition of being professional is being paid to do something. I'm allowed to say this piece has been professionally done. Maybe it needs more work. But, it still works very well.

 
AK47frizzle said:
And, I am a tech. There are people who contact me to get their stuff done. And, the definition of being professional is being paid to do something. I'm allowed to say this piece has been professionally done. Maybe it needs more work. But, it still works very well.
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Just because someone is daft enough to pay you to do something doesn't make you a professional and reading what you wrote and listening to that gun you definitely can't claim tech either.

It is not professionally done it is a home d.i.y job that involved you breaking the connections from repeated tests. Tests that if you knew what you were doing you shouldn't need to keep doing. Fitting a Titan when you know what you are doing takes about an hour an a half with a re-shim and service. You spent longer setting the motor height than anybody who knows what they are doing would take to build the whole gun. 

When I get chance I will post how a good gearbox should sound with a Titan and re-shim and I will even use a split gearbox which are normally whiney little fuckers.

Edit: No you can't add labour charges either.

 
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ImTriggerHappy said:
Just because someone is daft enough to pay you to do something doesn't make you a professional and reading what you wrote and listening to that gun you definitely can't claim tech either.

It is not professionally done it is a home d.i.y job that involved you breaking the connections from repeated tests. Tests that if you knew what you were doing you shouldn't need to keep doing. Fitting a Titan when you know what you are doing takes about an hour an a half with a re-shim and service. You spent longer setting the motor height than anybody who knows what they are doing would take to build the whole gun. 

When I get chance I will post how a good gearbox should sound with a Titan and re-shim and I will even use a split gearbox which are normally whiney little fuckers.
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I know what a good gearbox should sound like and I have done better work in the past:




 This G&G gearbox, in particular, was more annoying than usual than your average v2 gearbox. The bevel gear was always too low no matter how it was set. I may retract the ad and work it again. I'm just being transparent with what I have done which is a rare thing these days.

 
Rogerborg said:
 But if I adjust anything other than the hop, you will hunt me down and kill me?
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Yes, very much so. With a slipper. You know I'll have your address :)

I've removed the labour cost and I think it is agreeable now. All those asg parts and titan do shoot the price far above the original gun's value. Will probably rework it again. But, as I said, this G&G gearbox is an anomaly...

 
AK47frizzle said:
Ok, now you're being whiney ?
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No just believe if someone is going to call themselves a tech they should no the difference between good, bad and average builds.

Too many people calling themselves airsoft techs when they have no clue or any real background in any form of engineering. 

Think so called airsoft techs should have a test and qualification to stop all the useless fuckers ruining peoples toy guns.

 
@Rogerborg why the unhappy faces as I was totally right. The gun he was trying to sell as professionally built as he claims to be a tech sounded awful and the one he posted up as good sounds no better than a stock G&G or Specna. 

It scares me to think people might actually pay him and then some poor sod has to take it to a more responsible tech to sort it after, which costs even more.

 
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ImTriggerHappy said:
@Rogerborg why the unhappy faces as I torally right. The gun he was trying to sell as professionally built as he claims to be a tech sounded awful and the one he posted up as good sounds no better than a stock G&G or Specna. 

It scares me to think people might actually pay him and then some poor sod has to take it to a more responsible tech to sort it after, which costs even more.
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While I admit that I had difficulties with this particular gun, you're just being much of an arse based off one example. One.

There are no qualifications to be a tech; if you're good enough to be one, you can just be one right off the bat. And, a professional is someone that has an income based off what they do. These are the facts and that's just how it is whether you like that or not.

My reputation is currently local and through word of mouth. I have fixed and passed on quite a few guns with no complaints so far. Yes, this G&G may end my positive streak, but are techs not allowed to make mistakes and learn from them?

I've made around £1300 so far this month. No, that's not a huge six figure "pro" salary. But, I think that's pretty decent for an engineering student on summer break with a lot of spare time. Enough for rent...

 
AK47frizzle said:
While I admit that I had difficulties with this particular gun, you're just being much of an arse based off one example. One.

There are no qualifications to be a tech; if you're good enough to be one, you can just be one right off the bat. And, a professional is someone that has an income based off what they do. These are the facts and that's just how it is whether you like that or not.

My reputation is currently local and through word of mouth. I have fixed and passed on quite a few guns with no complaints so far. Yes, this G&G may end my positive streak, but are techs not allowed to make mistakes and learn from them?

I've made around £1300 so far this month. No, that's not a huge six figure "pro" salary. But, I think that's pretty decent for an engineering student on summer break with a lot of spare time. Enough for rent...
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Sorry but when you advertise something as professionally built then the person buying would expect some level of expertise.

The fact you need no qualifications to be a tech is an issue I think needs solving as there are too many rogue so called techs ruining people stuff.

I can only base my opinion on what you have shown and that G&G is not good an that noveske which you think is good sounds a bit off on semi. Based on that you shouldn't be let you near anybody's gun let alone get paid for it.

That G&G is as simple as it gets and yet you broke connections spent ages setting motor height and knackered the original piston. 

I would never advertise as professional or call myself a tech when selling and my work is far better than yours. I have no issue with your price or you playing with your toys but drop the professional and tech bit.

Edit: All the fact you have made money off it proves is that airsofters regularly have no clue and that you are quite happy to blag people.

 
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makomako said:
In fact, he just sent me a message today asking to trade a HK416 lol. And the lot just left me negative feedback for telling him no. WTF
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A question for the mods - How can anyone leave feedback for anyone else if no actual transaction has occurred on which to base the feedback?
Seems broken? And evidently open to abuse ?

 
sonofsammo said:
A question for the mods - How can anyone leave feedback for anyone else if no actual transaction has occurred on which to base the feedback?
Seems broken? And evidently open to abuse ?
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The feedback is enabled for all, expect it is based on how the site software is configured.

However, if someone abuses it to leave feedback when there has been no transaction the Mods will and do remove the feedback.  A member can simply PM a Mod to make them aware. 

I had a member this year leave me negative feedback because I had moderated their advert, which was both non-constructive and pointless.

 
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With the g&g tr4....(been away for few days) 

"This is a brand new G&G TR4-18 that has been upgraded by myself. If you are looking for a gun that performs exceptionally well straight out of the box, this is it. This has not been skirmished."

love the way the teaching but has been discussed, however does this not sound wrong.....

? brand new out of box ? but upgraded..

 
Jaylordofwaargh said:
With the g&g tr4....(been away for few days) 

"This is a brand new G&G TR4-18 that has been upgraded by myself. If you are looking for a gun that performs exceptionally well straight out of the box, this is it. This has not been skirmished."

love the way the teaching but has been discussed, however does this not sound wrong.....

? brand new out of box ? but upgraded..
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It makes perfect sense.

Picked up "brand new" by myself, then sequentially upgraded. Then, it is "straight out of the box", "exceptionally well" for the next person who receives it; not necessarily brand new, but suggests tuned to the point where they don't need to do anything more to it.

I get why you say that. But, just need to follow it more logically.

Anyway, it's almost there now. Just waiting on some ak2m4 parts. Subsequently, price is going down because I realised that some stuff didn't mesh well at all no matter what.

 
AK47frizzle said:
It makes perfect sense.

Picked up "brand new" by myself, then sequentially upgraded. Then, it is "straight out of the box", "exceptionally well" for the next person who receives it; not necessarily brand new, but suggests tuned to the point where they don't need to do anything more to it.

I get why you say that. But, just need to follow it more logically.

Anyway, it's almost there now. Just waiting on some ak2m4 parts. Subsequently, price is going down because I realised that some stuff didn't mesh well at all no matter what.
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@Jaylordofwaargh is right used is used.

But it doesn't perform exceptionally well though does it because you messed with it and couldn't get it right which is shocking you being a "professional tech"  and all.

What advert should say is:

G&G TR14 used and abused.

I took an average gun and diy teched it until it was worse. Fitted a basic Titan mosfet that will only cost you £45 to use properly. Put in a bunch of upgrade parts some of which are notoriously fragile but I have supplied the originals for a real tech to fit when it breaks.

So please give me more money than standard gun costs so you can have the enjoyment of this badly built piece of crap costing you more money and maybe ending in a youtube tech vid titled "look what some ham fisted monkey did to this poor gun."

Postage and paypal fees included.

 
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