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Macks airsoft dreamers of the week thread

@osteoshot - I must admit I spotted this and upon seeing the images and description immediately went "nope". Unfair or not, this just screams to me that it's going to opening up a potentially expensive can of worms.

I also spotted a TM NGRS HK417 in the classifieds which piqued my interest up until I read that the flash hider / outer barrel had been snapped with the seller suggesting it could be re-threaded to make the shorter version etc. Again, my brain started ticking over "well, how did that happen and what damage isn't apparent?". Consequently another resounding "nope".

 
osteoshot said:
For want of a nail!!!,

this advert whilst not necessarily a dreamer just makes me think , why risk a sale for a cheap ass castle nut and electrical tape fix which puts the whole idea of the upgrades in question?







 



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The fact the nut is loose because he’s had it opened up so many times up-grading , putting back together , taking apart again to see why it’s not working , THEN putting it back together once he’s fixed it , OR thought he’d fixed it and then needing to take it apart again , etc , etc , etc until the threads are totally bollox’ed don’t mean no never mind ? Yea right ! ?‍♂️

 
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@Druid799 - The thing that gets me is what else is wrong with it? If it's required that much back and forth or if they've simply failed to use the appropriate tools what else is on its last legs? Or is it the case that the internals were upgraded by someone else and the castle nut has ended up being damaged some other way?

Finally given the type of gun it is and how much it costs why wouldn't you replace the castle nut prior to sale yourself? It beggars belief.

This is the one which really got me though. These things are pretty damn durable so it really does make me question what happened for the flash hider to "unfortunately" get snapped off. Don't get me wrong, it's a solid package and if it were all tickety boo it would be a pretty reasonable deal. Then again the entire package looks as though it was dragged through a marsh... I mean how filth covered do your pouches have to be to be unable to tell what colour they actually are? Then again, they highlight the fact that the weathering is "all natural" so I guess the buyer can sleep soundly knowing that it's organic...

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Druid799 said:
The fact the nut is loose because he’s had it opened up so many times up-grading , putting back together , taking apart again to see why it’s not working , THEN putting it back together once he’s fixed it , OR thought he’d fixed it and then needing to take it apart again , etc , etc , etc until the threads are totally bollox’ed don’t mean no never mind ? Yea right ! ?‍♂️
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Really brings your teching ability into question when you couldn't even bodge it with loctite or ptfe ?.

 
Rogerborg said:
Oh, are you actually a professional airsoft technician?

Honestly, I've not being paying attention.
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 No such thing as a professional airsoft technician.

There is such a thing as engineering though which is where I earn my paycheck. If I ever do decide to go into fixing airsoft guns full time I would do so by going under the umbrella of a machining firm I know that has a nice empty workshop space I can take. For now though doing the bits I do I get by using the resources of the mid sized engineering company that I work for and who give me free access to do anything I need.

That's why I don't just put bits in but actually manufacturer bespoke parts when needed. 

 
Mac 10's priced at £110.00 per unit. I'm not completely sure if this belongs here but given these can be found on average for £120 - £130 the price seems a little steep. Especially when you consider the fact that it isn't even confirmed if the magazine(s) are gas tight and if the guns work as they should.

 
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FreeFrag.UK said:
This is the one which really got me though. These things are pretty damn durable so it really does make me question what happened for the flash hider to "unfortunately" get snapped off. Don't get me wrong, it's a solid package and if it were all tickety boo it would be a pretty reasonable deal. Then again the entire package looks as though it was dragged through a marsh... I mean how filth covered do your pouches have to be to be unable to tell what colour they actually are? Then again, they highlight the fact that the weathering is "all natural" so I guess the buyer can sleep soundly knowing that it's organic...

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When selling kit you usually try to get it looking it’s best ? Not it’s fecking worst ! ?‍♂️ Pouches are filthy , mags are filthy , everything is covered in shit’n god knows what ! You don’t just ‘snap’ a TM outer without any damage or displacement to the internal parts . MOST definitely a time to invest in a 10ft barge poll ! ?

 
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Well it would appear there really is one born everyday , the 417 with the snapped off flashhider ?is listed as completed ! ?

Busted 417

 
FreeFrag.UK said:
just because there is a qualification/certification for something doesn't guarantee that the quality of workmanship meets the same standard
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This is also a big issue in the IT industry. Most certification schemes are simply a cash grab, people learn how to pass the cert rather than do the job.

 
lukeB said:
This is also a big issue in the IT industry. Most certification schemes are simply a cash grab, people learn how to pass the cert rather than do the job.
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why I am offended! I know all the configuration maximums and would never need to google them!

Cisco actually have good exams but mostly your correct brain dumping is rampant and the vendors don't care too much because they still get their money.

Experience trumps any certificate.

 
Musica said:
Experience trumps any certificate.
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Very true but in today’s litigation powered world unless you do have a fancy piece of paper that says you can do the job then experience ain’t worth crap all , take my job in the nhs day in day out I see newly qualified nurses who haven’t a fecking clue what there doing but they’ve got a degree so they jump up the promotional ladder over older experienced nurses who can run rings around them but as they ‘only’ have a nursing diploma there promotional chances are Zero .?

PS I’m in neither of these categories as A; I don’t have a degree , B; I don’t have a diploma I have a specialist orthopaedic qualification that has a fixed ceiling on how high I could have gone so I’m out off all the politics , which suites me just fine ! ? 

 
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There are a few problems with certification that I can see - 
Multiple platforms - would that require multiple certificates - one for each power source?

Would it increase prices for customers?
Would it actually increase quality of output, given that at any given time some of the tech team would inevitably be out doing college / course work etc?
Certification doesn't always assure good quality work.
Isn't the best way to let the market decide? Good quality tech work will get round my word of mouth - and that will generate business.
Bad work will get round too - and their business should (hopefully) decrease...
and now I'm rambling....

 
sonofsammo said:
There are a few problems with certification that I can see - 
Multiple platforms - would that require multiple certificates - one for each power source?
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No all four main types are so simple that one course could easily cover all. 

How about all techs must have a proven engineering background whether degree, apprenticeship or just years of on job experience then sit a basic competency test?

 
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