Comfort levels in CQB

[Immortal]

lol :lol: Breachers make grown men scream like infants.

 

[MAX DICKER]

lol :lol: Breachers make grown men scream like infants.

That and complain to the marshals.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

On a different point, I've heard shotguns being complained about before too. Depending on the ammo weight, proximity, shotty type and how it's being fueled/upgraded. TM style gas shotty upgraded to fire x6 shot at 350fps on 0.2g hurts enough when they are close enough for all the bbs to be on target. Stick 0.3 or more that I have heard of people running it with. That's close to 2g of bbs hitting you in a concentrated area. Up that there's the aps not as powerful but takes a bigger load, even on 0.2 is a fair whack. Far worse impact than a short 3-4 rnd burst. 

kinda funny really, i'm sure if i turned up with the e&l set to a 50rps 6 shot burst there'd be plenty of complaints.

not that i'm against shotguns, just the double standard is amusing.

 

[PopRocket123]

On a different point, I've heard shotguns being complained about before too. Depending on the ammo weight, proximity, shotty type and how it's being fueled/upgraded. TM style gas shotty upgraded to fire x6 shot at 350fps on 0.2g hurts enough when they are close enough for all the bbs to be on target. Stick 0.3 or more that I have heard of people running it with. That's close to 2g of bbs hitting you in a concentrated area. Up that there's the aps not as powerful but takes a bigger load, even on 0.2 is a fair whack. Far worse impact than a short 3-4 rnd burst. 

I have been nailed in the forehead by a HPAed beacher from inside 5m that left a very neat little triangle afterwards. Definitely felt it more than a single shot but just called it showed nice shot and went back to respawn. The only time I've complained about being overshot was on my second or third game when I charged an objective, got immediately shot then continued to get rinsed as I stood there, hand in the air catching my breath. They didn't stop shooting me until I moved behind cover despite repeatedly shouting hit

 

[DrAlexanderTobacco]

I have been nailed in the forehead by a HPAed beacher from inside 5m that left a very neat little triangle afterwards.

I've had similar:

 

[Tommikka]

If it’s any less than this then you’re not really trying ...

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[Sawyer]

If it’s any less than this then you’re not really trying ...

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Did they just throw the gun at you?

 

[Tommikka]

Did they just throw the gun at you?

I’d have been better off if they had

 

[heroshark]

I have been nailed in the forehead by a HPAed beacher from inside 5m that left a very neat little triangle afterwards. Definitely felt it more than a single shot but just called it showed nice shot and went back to respawn. The only time I've complained about being overshot was on my second or third game when I charged an objective, got immediately shot then continued to get rinsed as I stood there, hand in the air catching my breath. They didn't stop shooting me until I moved behind cover despite repeatedly shouting hit

That's fair enough. But theoretical one here. What if it was close enough to get a tight full grouping, say 1-2m ramped right upto site fps limited on x6 shot with 0.3g bbs. You probably wouldn't be so cheery, possibly concussed. I'm not saying it's something that's happened to me but I don't think I'd appreciate it. As a few of you I've used x6 shotties and still do but they are not boosted in anyway and I don't use any more than 0.25g in them. 

 

[Musica]

Always double tap, always. ?

don't forget cardio.

 

[MAX DICKER]

You probably wouldn't be so cheery, possibly concussed.

LOL oh please

 

[clumpyedge]

Body shots I'm not so worried about (whatever gun and weight you are using) in CQB its how people even manage to get head shots on an fully OPEN target that amazes me. One thing I noticed when I played at the site in Sweden was that yeah head shots happen if that's what you present but all other times people actually kept their gun level to the sternum down (obviously cock shots wouldn't be so nice but hey ho) is this more a site specific thing who knows but I would say its 50/50 to see anyone deliberately lower their aim in the UK.

Disclaimer: Personal experience opinion - nobody get their knickers in a twist!

 

[Rogerborg]

Funnily enough after the first couple of games a marshal took the time to clarify what they mean by 'burst'; demonstrating with an AEG. Long burst (more than 5 shots or so) bad, short burst (3 or 4 shots) ok.

Thanks for clarifying. I agree that's a recipe for regrets.  I assume it means that everyone is set to full auto, and firing bursts of 3... well, maybe 4... look, he said don't shoot more than 5 shots.  Or so.

Yes, HPA or tricked out AEGs can spam ludicrously fast on semi, but that's a smaller issue to address than encouraging an arms race where nearly everyone can join in the contest to spunk out a burst of not-more-than-5-or-so in the shortest time.

Ultimately it's up to the players to vote with our wallets, making it clear why we won't be back until common sense has been restored.

 

[heroshark]

LOL oh please

Not joking . Not often but in extreme and unlucky circumstances I have seen it happen to the odd person .Generally good hard hit to the temple area on bare skin, and this was with single shot.

Thanks for clarifying. I agree that's a recipe for regrets.  I assume it means that everyone is set to full auto, and firing bursts of 3... well, maybe 4... look, he said don't shoot more than 5 shots.  Or so.

Yes, HPA or tricked out AEGs can spam ludicrously fast on semi, but that's a smaller issue to address than encouraging an arms race where nearly everyone can join in the contest to spunk out a burst of not-more-than-5-or-so in the shortest time.

Ultimately it's up to the players to vote with our wallets, making it clear why we won't be back until common sense has been restored.

 Theres a cqb place relatively local to me that allows FA and it and its full of high rof hpa idiots. I won't play there.

 

[MAX DICKER]

I agree that people should, and do vote with their wallets. I enjoy CQB with and without FA/burst.

As for the alleged concussion from being hit with bb's; if someone is THAT precious, they can always wear full face protection.

 

[jcheeseright]

I'm calling bullshit on concussion from BBs. 

A concussion is where your head is hit hard enough for the brain to impact the skull and swell a little, unless that 2g of BBs were travelling at Mach 3 when they hit there's not even a remote possibility of causing concussion.  

A nasty bruise and a bit of discomfort maybe, but concussion, no. 

 

[heroshark]

I agree that people should, and do vote with their wallets. I enjoy CQB with and without FA/burst.

As for the alleged concussion from being hit with bb's; if someone is THAT precious, they can always wear full face protection.

I do within reason but when you have people with DSG setups or hpa hoses that let of 10rnds with the merest tickle of the trigger I'll pass. Especially if its run right up to the site fps limit. As for alleged I'm not really sure why you would think I would lie to you as I have no reason to. I've been playing 17 years and as said its not common maybe seen it myself 2-3 iirc but possible if you are unlucky. But yes a mask or even a hat will usually absorb enough of the impact. Tbh I've never not used full face protection myself and don't get people that don't and get pissy about getting hit as it's the risk they chose to take.

 

[MAX DICKER]

I've never used face protection either and my face is mostly scar tissue now lol

But yeah, face protection comes in so many forms and guises that there's something to suit anybody. If you play airsoft without it, you're going to catch bb's in the face. Down to personal choice.

 

[heroshark]

I'm calling bullshit on concussion from BBs. 

A concussion is where your head is hit hard enough for the brain to impact the skull and swell a little, unless that 2g of BBs were travelling at Mach 3 when they hit there's not even a remote possibility of causing concussion.  

A nasty bruise and a bit of discomfort maybe, but concussion, no. 

I'm probably using the wrong terminology and what I'm talking about is something else . But essentially I've seen folks end up sitting out the day with headache and dizzyness enough go home or sit out the rest of the day .

 

[clumpyedge]

I'm probably using the wrong terminology and what I'm talking about is something else . But essentially I've seen folks end up sitting out the day with headache and dizzyness enough go home or sit out the rest of the day .

I have on two occasions been hit so close in the head that its knocked me on my arse a pissed blood for a few minutes so can understand what you mean but I very much doubt they were concussions. Even someone using a heavy weight bb outdoors from further than 30m has put me on my arse when it hit  me square between the eyes. Probably affects people differently but after a bit of water and some paracetamol I'm usually back in.