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That's great to know you guys are doing something about these kind of situations. I feel I also have to comment on the wording in their letters, it's vague as all hell, and at worst can seem quite scary to be honest. When "unlimited fine" and "no less than 5 year sentence" and "up to 7 years sentence" following "further investigations" are bandied about in the text, making one feel like the flying squad are gonna jump through the effing window any minute. My wife and I REALLY enjoy shooting and were going to try and get into Real Steel, long distance target shooting next year...I don't think we'll bother if this is the amount of bullshit that gets levelled at toy guns in this country, can't even imagine what RS regs would be like. What a damn shame.

@Tackle Claim started 3 weeks ago, thought I'd roll the ball early.

Thanks for all the help with this from various members, was great guys cheers. Sadly I won't be getting my package it seems. RIF was tested and is, according to them a section 5.

Rogerborg, thanks very much for taking time to post and ease my concerns. Was a little bit "wtf..whaaa" for a moment there, yikes. There was no mention of a way forward for recovery of items in the letter I received. I do have a valid UKARA though, it just hadn't been updated by the member of staff following my renewal. Thanks for the input as well, much appreciated.

I have just called my club...and sure enough, I'm not live on the system. The club told me I don't have to be on the database, but I have a feeling that's why my pew has been seized, oh well.

Thanks Jim, I'll check in with my site, they are still open...nice of you to offer though, cheers =D

I'll try check the database, thanks for the tip. I had no idea I could look myself actually.

Full value declared, but the R.I.F acronym wasn't used, however, it is named as "GBB AIRSOFT" so not sure. I have a terrible feeling about this.

I have had a good look through the paperwork and noticed on the invoice that the AUG a3 is stated as being "Under 2 joules" so I'm wondering if that was the reason they pulled it. So I'm in a situation where if I fight this, they might chrono the thing and it turns out that it shoots too hot, then I'll be in the shit, is that right? fuck, I dunno what to do.

So, here is a brief typed copy of my mail from this afternoon. erm WTAF Notice of seizure pursuant to section 139(6) of the customs and excise management act 1979 (herein after referred to as the act) and paragraph1 of schedule 3 there to, you are hereby given notice that, by virtue of the powers contained in the act, certain goods have been seized, namely: 1x airsoft rifle Received from: Mr Ho from Honk Kong as liable to forfeiture under section 49(1)(b) on the grounds that:- They are goods imported into the UK contrary to the prohibition in force (see below); and also possibly They were mixed, packed or found with prohibited/restricted goods and/or They were not described accurately by the sender on the written declaration which accompanied the parcel. They are imported contrary to the prohibition in force Warning The seizure of these goods is without prejudice to any further action that the border force may take against you in connection with the seizure Yours faithfully Officer 21549 Border Force. They also remind me about fines and prison time too....Jesus, really? It's an effing toy ffs.

Now that you mention it, that's a pretty damn good idea. Thanks.

So, it's been 2 months since my WGC shop order landed in the UK, I have been patient and have jumped through all UPS' hoops of "RIF paperwork" etc, which had to be sent a total of 6 times before they finally got it.. Then UPS wanted a copy of the sale invoice from me, which I provided, then they wanted a copy of the invoice from Siucut at WGC shop, then they wanted another because reasons, then they are telling me the package has gone missing, then it's found but it's in UPS' warehouse, will be here soon, NOW it's still with customs, which is "out of our hands" I politely asked if they needed any more paperwork to which UPS staff reply "I am afraid that we do not have the visibility to confirm the necessary paper works needed." even though they knew about the paperwork before... So I'm on the "It's out of our hands" square of the Snakes and Ladders board. I phoned Customs, spoke to them.."It's a UPS problem, it's out of our hands" Phoned UPS again.. "It's a Customs thing, it's out of our hands." You get the idea. Been going back and forth for weeks. After two investigations, one initiated from my side and one from WGC's side by UPS, I'm none the wiser as to who has my package or where it even is. Many phone calls, some arguments with members of staff, who do their best to bullshit the shit out of me, still no idea WTF is going on. Any suggestions guys? I'm shit out of ideas and getting a little pissed off. I'm of the opinion, at this point, that there may be a scam being run here? Every time I enquire over the phone I get a different problem from each member of staff, it's a circus. Thanks for reading my rant, if anyone has an idea, or suggestion that may help, feel free to comment, it's hopeless at the moment, so hell, it is what it is.

AUG UPDATE: The Dirty bastards at UPS have "lost" my order, we all know what that means, right? Some dirty thieving C*** has lost it into his car boot. So now I have to tell WGC shop to send another order and claim against UPS for the loss. Well I guess we'll see...

I have had extended correspondence with UPS customer service and have been given, as of now, 4 different 2 hour windows of delivery times to be home, and none of them have come through for me. To be fair, the ladies at customer service have been stellar, but something seems off. They told me "it's with the delivery company" but wait, I thought you WERE a delivery company? So, have they been subbing work to no-name companies or something like that? Hell, I dunno. Thanks for all the input from various folks here, I haven't figured out how to tag people to say thanks etc. As of now my RIF and parts have cleared customs and are " On the way™ " Evelyn V at UPS CS assures me it will be here today..... In closing, I hope you all get your stuff post-haste. I will update if I get my RIF, this is what I am building.

Still waiting to hear back, they say it's cleared customs, but I have received 2 different emails giving 2 different delivery date/times and none of them have come through so far. Romica and Evelyn at UPS customer service have been really nice, but still no package. Hope you get yours! Cheers, from now on I'll use EMS.

Good luck to you too, sir.

Thanks, much appreciated. =]

From UPS. I normally send a photo of my skirmish site membership card, which has my name, UKARA number etc to whoever I order from overseas to avoid this sort of thing...but here we are anyway lol.

I guess it'll be pot luck..I hope you don't have to...it's a real pain in the arse. Good luck!

Yes of course, first time I have had this myself. Ordered and received a KWA Tavor GBBR from WGC no problem through UPS, dunno what the fuss is about.

Yes indeed, thanks for that..I was reading backwards up the board.

Just found this thread. I was looking through to find out what this RIF form is that UPS want me to sign. Have ordered a GHK AUG and spare MAG from WGC shop, wonder how this is gonna go...