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  • Instead of playing and cursing people for not calling hits, I decided to do some teching today.

    The point was to install a Warfet and replace the hop rubber on the AK.

    Did the absolute worst solder/routing job ever done, the hop C-Clip snapped in half and I've glued it back together, the box is not really aligned with the hop chamber.

    If Luke saw what I have done to this gun, he'd beat me to death with a stick dipped in horse shit.

    When it shits itself it's gonna go to a really good Italian tech.

    Skara
    Skara
    And btw, I have precocking turned off, but warfet gives no shit and precocks anyway ?

    Adolf Hamster
    Adolf Hamster
    sure it's not just natural overrun? see if turning on/off ab has any effect.

    lateral play is a tricky one, i have occasionally used grub screws to reduce the wiggle room.

    Skara
    Skara
    Haven't noticed any extra part laying around when I reassembled. Will gib a check later.

    For the precocking, meh, no idea. It did overspin a little when I got it, but now it's consistently precocking (will reset the warfet as well and fuck around with the settings)

    0.7J arp9.

    0.28g specna edge BBs.

    Maple Leaf MR hop.

    Easy 60 metres.

    Can't wait to see the results once I fix the air seal.

    Skara
    Skara
    @Lozart

    Well, I have tested it in anger on Sunday, although without fixing the air seal.

    Managed to reach people at 60 metres (measured) while pulling a MC Hammer on them.

    Spread seemed almost non existent up to 45/50 metres, but I will have to confirm it with a proper shooting test (might record it and post it somewhere next sunday).

    Feeding is fine, somehow. My ARP never fed flawlessly for some reason.

    Overall impressed so far.

    Lozart
    Lozart
    @Skara nice. Omega nub I gues?

    Skara
    Skara
    @Lozart yes, along with a shim between the nub and the arm, because without it (regardless of the rubber and tensioner used), the chamber gives barely enough pressure to lift 0.23s.

    Could be me missing something, as it's a modification I HAVE do to all my guns bar GBBs..

    Smol noob teching question:

    If I increase the cylinder volume (from a type A with the hole in the middle cylinder to a C with the hole 3/4 of the way) do I risk any PME? gun has a quite high rof in the mid/high 20s.

    Everything else would stay the exact same.

    Skara
    Skara
    S
    Sitting Duck
    Brass one is say 48mm to front of cylinder

    Blue is about 45mm to front of cylinder

    either would do - not much in it tbh

    When you lost say 25fps/0.2j (depending on bb used)

    that could have been from refitting bucking/barrel

    or in a new hop/barrel setup

    or

    the bucking refitted to longer barrel that may not have sealed so perfectly

    Coz a longer barrel would lean to more creep not less

    So I'm a little surprised it drop a bit, should have crept up slightly

    which I wonder if the new barrel/hop was fitted 101% perfectly

    or a new hop/rubber/nub installed made the difference over original

    in other words - if fitted correctly or a new bucking/refitting made a less effective seal or either a bit of dirt/grease ensured a bit more hop required to lift bb and that was where the drop took place

    coz all things being equal you should have gained say 0.1j perhaps

    The blue G&G cylinder is slung in most G&G's up to say 333mm barrel

    and I'd lay money the spring is a m110 (360fps) or just over to make a firehawk type barrel hit 320fps with a 140mm barrel

    by all means test/try the other cylinder but something changed when barrel/hop got refitted imho

    also if open it up - check compression coz G&G's on some piston heads produce a below par seal, so get good compression with what cylinder seems to seal best on piston, with a decent o-ring etc....

    But reckon the refitting of barrel & bucking especially did not go so perfectly and thus you lost power is a possible thing to investigate

    or hop unit is sloppy and shifts forward at times losing seal

    so ensure spring on hop unit to push it back to seal, if the mag tries to shift it away from box when inserted

    something ain't right & whatever it is up with hop/bucking

    THAT is what might have caused the drop

    Skara
    Skara
    Thanks for the reply.

    I indeed expected an increase in muzzle energy with the longer barrel.

    I have already changed the piston head o-ring as the stock one was crap (all mangled and no matter what I did, it would not seal), the hop rubber was a prometheus purple that got replaced with a prometheus blue (flat) and then back to purple because the blue went in another gun.

    Now I have a ML MR-Hop AEG rubber with its Omega tensioner, which is noticeably softer than the two prommy rubbers I had previously. Now, when I had the stock 130mm inner, both prommies gave perfect air seal and consistent readings of 0.98/0.99 Joules, compared to the stock G&G blue rubber that had readings all over the place (same thing happened with the G&G green, chrono looked like it was on LSD).

    I am pretty sure I have installed the hop/barrel correctly and the spring that pushes the unit against the gearbox is fairly strong (it's the kind that slides over the barrel). Mags are very consistent due to their AK style locking mechanism and overall tight magwell, if they push the hop away from the box they do it in a very consistent way as well, because the readings are pretty much +- 0.6 m/s

    I'll chrono with the new rubber tomorrow and see if it has changed anything, then I'll open it up and mess around with the air seal again.

    Worst case it'll be a new piston head + o-ring and a softer spring to compensate for the energy output increase.

    How does one not die in 30° weather? :(

    Jedi_Master
    Jedi_Master
    When it is 30 degrees C at night you get used to it, relishing the coolness from the daytime temperature.

    Impulse
    Impulse
    When I used to airsoft in Spain, I'd usually wear nothing more than a pair of trousers, belt kit and a lightweight t-shirt or one of those nice 5.11 lightweight short sleeved shirts.

    But yeah, as has also been said... Water is key. Drink absolutely loads of it.

    Sneaky
    Sneaky
    Be a cool customer under the line of fire of bb's......oh and water!

    Just found out ML made a MR-Hop for AEGs ?

    70m range at 0.9J here I come!!

    Adolf Hamster
    Adolf Hamster
    eh, they do wear out but they are a wear part by design.

    must admit i need to stock up on ml stuff, omega nubs in particular seem to be running dry.

    Skara
    Skara
    Yup, only needed one nub but added a few just in case I need to mod them.

    Will test the AEG rubber on my ARP, comparing it against a bog standard prommy purple and see how it fares.

    Bugs me that I basically spent €60 on a bunch of silicone tubes and tiny bits of plastic :(

    Adolf Hamster
    Adolf Hamster
    Its an expensive hobby that's for sure.

    Like when i realise my last ammo shipment cost more than some of my guns.....

    Mail call :D

    Nice smol box from AA

    Skara
    Skara
    Same, until this morning at 9 the tracking showed "in transit" somewhere in Bologna (makes no sense as it's even further away from me than Arezzo ?)

    Also can't figure why a random unknown italian store had these pistols in stock when half europe is still preordering them from Asia :D

    Adolf Hamster
    Adolf Hamster
    postage logistics is truly a mystery. you could post something down the street and it'd take longer to turn up than if you'd posted it across half the planet.

    Skara
    Skara
    Yep, bought 2 batteries from the same shop I bought the AAP from a while ago (bought them for a mate) on eBay, it took a month for them to arrive. And they forgot one -.- (they refunded it quickly tho, literally 2 minutes after contacting them)

    AAP on its way.

    Now, Arezzo (lovely town btw, if you ever come to Italy, make sure to check it out) is a couple of hours drive from me.

    Hopefully it doesn't take a week to travel 200kms..

    Adolf Hamster
    Adolf Hamster
    judging by the last time you spoke about the italian postal system it'll take about 14 hours to get 199.5km and 2 weeks to make it the rest of the way.

    tbf i get a similar issue with one particular shop in ireland, for some reason stuff takes exactly a month to arrive and turns up smelling of fish.

    i don't want to say the irish postal system involves chucking the package on the first lorry that looks like it's going vaguely the right direction, but i'm gonna insinuate the hell out of it.

    Skara
    Skara
    It's a private courier who's won a contract with the postal service (they're just as bad, no wonder they won lmao).

    Their website is also busted, so can't really track anything :(

    I just hope it gets here before Friday.

    Hold on, smells of......fish? the fuck?

    Adolf Hamster
    Adolf Hamster
    i know, but no word of a lie it smelt like it had been chucked in the back of a fish lorry.

    What a shit game day this was.

    Sniper kit needs to be redone (yay more money into the drain), I totally need mesh eyepro and 2 pistols are kinda useless.

    Luckily I had the ARP and switched to that.

    Skara
    Skara
    If I had a safezone to rely onto, I'd just use my frv belt and an armpit holster for the mk23.

    Unfortunately that is not an option as I have to sling all my gear and supplies with me (radio, at least one litre of water, small gas canister). I need to rework my backpack setup.

    Also thinking of switching to mesh when sniping, after all I play at 1J and everyone uses 0.2s, so the energy discharged on impact is very little (especially at 30/40 metres).

    Adolf Hamster
    Adolf Hamster
    Problem with mesh aint toughness for the most part.

    Its when you get them cheapo bb's that shatter.

    Mk23 seems a bit on the chunky side for shoulder carry no?

    Skara
    Skara
    The thing with the mk23 is that it's huge, when I carried it as a regular pistol on my hip it got in the way every time I sat or knelt (is this correct?) down. Drawing from the hip when prone produces a lot of movement which can give your position away, which is bad when you're trying to remain unseen.

    Shoulder/armpit/chest mount is the only system I can think of right now.

    Regarding mesh, I know cheap bbs can shatter, the alternative to mesh would be to play without mouth protection or using something like a SISU, but the price tag scares me (in case I'm not comfortable with a gum shield)

    Italian forums.

    guys asks for advice on a replica ACOG.

    I tell him they're all shit and that he should get a short dot.

    Guy buys the acog and now he's cursing because it's shit.

    lol

    AlphaBear
    AlphaBear
    Mamma Mia ... you should have told him to spend a grand on one if he wanted a real one... then it won't be shit... ;)

    Adolf Hamster
    Adolf Hamster
    a truly international problem, i recall a very similar event on here regarding the ssp1.....

    on a serious note i wouldn't mind a nice ACOG for airsoft, although granted the ones i've looked through so far have had a very strange definition of the phrase "forgiving eyebox"

    of course i'd still end up stacking a red dot on top and using it almost exclusively same as i do with the short dot.

    Skara
    Skara
    Yep, told him that the only one worth buying was the real deal, but you know, cheapskates pretending RS quality out of €30 replicas :D

    Zarrin
    Zarrin
    Some East-block loadouts look pretty awesome..  might have a little browse of their shop

    Adolf Hamster
    Adolf Hamster
    your wallet regretting buying an ak yet? :P

    Skara
    Skara
    Yes.

    I have a SSO Smersh on my way, a Partizan in SS will most likely follow next week.

    Looking at Evolution flash mags and probably a chicom (or some AK pouches to put on my Mini Mav)

    TFW you gas your WE glock mags in March, then test your TM G17 in late May but the gas has expanded so much it's almost impossible to depress the release valve :D

    At least I know they don't leak :D

    strykerles
    strykerles
    my WE 226 mags are the same out of the 5 I have 4 are still gassed and 1 has failed at the release valve

    Does anyone know a good source of information on russian kits?
    Looking at recon/scout units in particular.

    Uhu.

    GLS courier just dropped a long, thin package with a bulge on it  :D

    Adolf Hamster
    Adolf Hamster
    In an e&l? Im surprised as ive run the 7.62 and 5.45 variants in a couple of e&l's

    Skara
    Skara
    Yup, they don't engage at the front.  :(

    no biggie, a couple of beers and a file should fix the issue :)

    Btw, the ROF and response is stupid on a 7.4, cycles faster than my old amoeba with a 11.1

    Also, know of any decent brand for flash mags? I don't like the metal 7.62 Lonex ones, although I wonder if I can shove the internals into a 74 shell.

    Adolf Hamster
    Adolf Hamster
    The base e&l rof is pretty high, they seem to be built for reasonable speed at a very high fps.

    I know a mate of mine had his piston go from pme almost immediately as it was just too fast on a 1j spring and 11.1v.

    Cant advise on flashmags, i use midcaps exclusively.

    Is it me or the notification system is having a brain fart?

    I'm constantly getting notification of messages posted hours ago ?

    proffrink
    proffrink
    Emails from the site or notifications on the site?

    Skara
    Skara
    Notifications on the website, I have e-mails enabled for PMs only.

    proffrink
    proffrink
    Ok, now that is strange. Thanks for letting me know :)

    VFC's are good, right?



    Heath
    Heath
    "I don't know why people are still buying VFC Guns"



    Skara
    Skara
    That is literally the only thing VFC got right.

    And it looks like they copied KSC for that pistol (or they got KSC to produce for them).

    Nick G
    Nick G
    I saw this yesterday and forwarded it to a mate who has one of these. By a strange coincidence I did some work on it recently after he had some issues with it. Wiring in the gearbox was mangled , didn't look like it had been properly pushed down into the guides. He said it had always  kept feeling like it was stuttering, I put a replacement Tomtac box in it for him in the end using the original spring. It's now running at 1.1 joules . Also swapped the pistol grip to a 'Storm' grip as the original wasn't comfortable. Glad I never tried to refit the motor with the old grip now ! Externals are awesome though !

    It is confirmed that Italy is a 5th world country.

    Postman came with the optic and the customs bill (€30 for keeping the parcel for a whole fucking month, basically a scam).

    Handed the money, was about to open the package when the postman came back, gave me the money and told me he couldn't hand the package.

    The reason is that the post office employees don't accept cash because they are afraid of catching the virus.

    So now I have to wait 2 days and literally hand the cash directly to the office employees (the ones who can't take cash).

    What the fuck.

    What a fucking shit 15th world country.

    Skara
    Skara
    Yeah.

    I mean they obviously want to keep the hot seat as the absolute worst service ever.

    Imma give it a shot tomorrow morning even if the paper says from the 20th,

    Skara
    Skara
    So, turns out this shitshow is actually the new procedure.

    Postman comes and gives you the ticket (fuck social distancing measures).

    You then go to the post office (fuck social distancing measures x2) where all the elders wait for their pensions, so if you happen to be infected without symptoms you basically commit a mass murder, with your ticket and retrieve the parcel.

    Then you have to go back home/to the office, by doing so you're at risk of infecting/being infected even with PPE on.

    All this to make it "safe" for the postman who has to make contact with you anyway to hand the ticket. At that point he could just hand the parcel and be done with it.

    Fucking 200iq move right there.

    Adolf Hamster
    Adolf Hamster
    all i can say is i'm impressed, the italian postal service doesn't own hermes by any chance?

    It's shopping time again and I need suggestions!

    Wat am best gnu?

    -specna mk18

    -some ak boi

    Skara
    Skara
    It's gonna be a 74u :P

    my 7.4 is 10x2x1cm and the 11.1s are 10x2x1.7ish.

    I'm pretty sure the 7.4 will fit, not sure about the others.

    Okay, cheers guys, you've been really helpful :)

    last question, I found some flash mags from Evolution Airsoft (Italian company that apparently makes some neat M4s), would they fit? (Remember, I know fuck all about AKs)

    Skara
    Skara
    272 including 5 midcaps, shipping and paypal fees.

    Not bad.

    And my wallet hates you now

    And thanks @Asomodai for the discount code, saved me some beer tokens :)

    Adolf Hamster
    Adolf Hamster
    your wallet will forgive us when it arrives

    Guys.

    If you were to make the ugliest M4 you've ever seen, so ugly not even throwing it in a roaring fire would fix it, how would do that?

    I need suggestions!

    strykerles
    strykerles
    Skara
    Skara
    Nah, has to be practical as it's going to be my tournament gun.

    Adolf Hamster
    Adolf Hamster
    In that case my original suggestion, replace the rpk mag with a quad-stack 5.56 and put an rds on the scope so its usable.

    Also novritsch stickers are a good shout lol

    Put an advert for my am009 on the team's WhatsApp chat with a stupid high price for it (€150).

    One guy now wants it.

    Am I elegible for Macks?

    Skara
    Skara
    I do feel guilty a bit. Especially as he didn't say anything about the price ? Guns are generally more expensive (as in almost double of the average internet price) at our local retailer, so I guess he's used to it.

    He wants my old radio too ('twas 60 new + 50 for the mic, giving it to him for 30)

    A
    Albiscuit
    I sold 4 m4 midcaps to my brother for £10 EACH ? realised it was too much and took a tenner for them all.

    If we wasn't related though it would have been fair game.

    Skara
    Skara
    Sold it for €160 (gun + 2 mags + radio + 3 different headsets).

    Feel a hair less bad :)

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