Rant time - deliberate damage to someone elses RIF.

[Tackle]

They can, but I don't know what would compel them to do so.

If the "hurt" party does decide to pursue it, they might not get a lot of choice in the matter, while I'm not aware of what legal imperatives would be applicable, especially with data protection being what it is at the moment, if approached by the plod to divulge the players details, any failure to comply would be viewed badly by the community, lol what this guy did to another players gun is heresy, sacrilege even ?

 

[Adolf Hamster]

The rear sight mount has been broken but until it can get stripped and checked that's all he's found so far.

i'd be concerned that the outer/inner barrel might have been bent, considering it's a dmr platform messing up accuracy is a bit of an issue.....

 

[Lozart]

i'd be concerned that the outer/inner barrel might have been bent, considering it's a dmr platform messing up accuracy is a bit of an issue.....

Very possibly but until he can sort out the sight mount I doubt he'll be able to check the accuracy...

 

[Rogerborg]

if approached by the plod to divulge the players details

The only law enforcement who might be interested in that are the UKARA police.

https://www.facebook.com/TheUKARApolice

 

[snuff]

On a side note, while they are a hindrance at times, I would strongly recommend that your friend invests in a sling for his M14 @Lozart so that he can keep it with him under more conditions. I'd also advise standing it up against stuff where it is unlikely to fall over so that it is less likely to be kicked/trodden on. While I don't think it is the case in this instance, a lot of face protection limits the player's field of vision more than people realise and as such their awareness drops massively.

Looking at the clip it shows he has a sling.

I must ask..why lay it on the floor?Plenty of trees and barricades to lean it up against.The guy (not the poster) is a complete cock anyway,it makes no sense and he couldn't have a reason to do such a twaty thing.

 

[Tackle]

Looking at the clip it shows he has a sling.

I must ask..why lay it on the floor?Plenty of trees and barricades to lean it up against.The guy (not the poster) is a complete cock anyway,it makes no sense and he couldn't have a reason to do such a twaty thing.

Sociopathic tendencies ?, possibly on the spectrum ?, or maybe just thick as shit, & there appeared to be other players close by ?, thing is, even though it was someone else's gun, if I'd have witnessed his fuckwittery I'd have felt the need to "intervene" in some way ?

 

[snuff]

 if I'd have witnessed his fuckwittery I'd have felt the need to "intervene" in some way ?

I think most airsofters would,I also would've picked it up if I had seen it lying on the ground TBH.

 

[Lozart]

Looking at the clip it shows he has a sling.

I must ask..why lay it on the floor?Plenty of trees and barricades to lean it up against.

Funnily enough, I did ask him that same question. It's enormous length makes it incredibly awkward to run about with when he's using his pistol. He is now looking at alternative slings that might make life easier though. Personally I'd have leaned it up the tree but there you go.

 

[FreeFrag.UK]

@Lozart Beat me to it, I had a brief chin way with him over YouTube and he said much the same about the sling loop placements causing issue.

Admittedly, much like yourselves, I'd have stood it up somewhere a bit safer but who is to say that the culprit wouldn't have sought to do damage given any opportunity. I know it sounds pessimistic and it is certainly in realms of speculation but some people are just malicious.

 

[Lozart]

@Lozart Beat me to it, I had a brief chin way with him over YouTube and he said much the same about the sling loop placements causing issue.

Admittedly, much like yourselves, I'd have stood it up somewhere a bit safer but who is to say that the culprit wouldn't have sought to do damage given any opportunity. I know it sounds pessimistic and it is certainly in realms of speculation but some people are just malicious.

Was it you that recommended the BFG stock adaptor?

 

[FreeFrag.UK]

Was it you that recommended the BFG stock adaptor?

 I suggested a couple of parts from Blue Force Gear and I also suggested looking at Urban ERT Slings had on offer.

 

[Lozart]

 I suggested a couple of parts from Blue Force Gear and I also suggested looking at Urban ERT Slings had on offer.

Cool, I was chatting to him on messenger and he mentioned that someone had suggested it. Good shout, might get one for my M14!

 

[Adolf Hamster]

I think most airsofters would,I also would've picked it up if I had seen it lying on the ground TBH.

agreed, i'd probably have propped it up against the tree it was next to.

I think most airsofters would,I also would've picked it up if I had seen it lying on the ground TBH.

agreed, i'd probably have propped it up against the tree it was next to.

 

[sonofsammo]

agreed, i'd probably have propped it up against the tree it was next to.

agreed, i'd probably have propped it up against the tree it was next to.

Would you, by any chance, have propped it up against the tree it was next to?
?

 

[Robert James]

Is this a genuine comment.

we are obviously not watching and hearing the same footage

Yes.

So, because he laughs and places his feet on the gun, admittedly in a strange way, he is guilty? You can see his eyes can you? You can hear what he is laughing at? I wonder if he is putting his feet like that to peer round the tree with his gun up? 

I'm not saying he is definitely innocent because nobody other than him knows, but, I personally can see an accident. Whenever I place my gun down, its leaning against a wall, not on the floor tucked on a root of tree which is of similar colour. 

After watching it again now, for the however many times, it sounds like he is talking about being shot at or shooting someone in the back and saying it hurts then laughs, so if he focusing on shooting someone, or thinks he can see something, thats maybe why he pushes up against the tree,  the realises there is nobody to shoot and walks off.

Regardless of what everyone may think, its my opinion, unless the guy comes out and says yea i did it on purpose, it won't change.

 

[remus]

To me yes it looks on purpose but I have to say who sets a rifle down like that?both times? I'm near surprised earlier on in footage when in the building it wasn't stepped on then. When he sets it at the base of the tree its running across roots. Its a surprise that it doesn't snap in two. Tbh i wouldn't be surprised if this was a set up for views....

 

[Rogerborg]

So, because he laughs and places his feet on the gun, admittedly in a strange way, he is guilty?

On the balance of probability, yes.  This is the court of public opinion, not the International Criminal Court.

Even if we assume that he stood on it accidentally, I don't buy for a second that he could have been unaware of it.

If I stood on someone's gun accidentally, I'd find them, let them know, and offer to fix it or have it fixed if it was damaged.

Wouldn't you?

 

[Shamal]

Yeah like when you open your car door in a car park and accidentally bash the car next to you. ??

Regards 

 

[Robert James]

If I stood on someone's gun accidentally, I'd find them, let them know, and offer to fix it or have it fixed if it was damaged.

Wouldn't you?

oh absolutely, if I couldn't find them, I'd pick up the gun take to a marshall and explain. However, my point is that maybe he thinks he is standing on the root of the tree, or a branch or something.

I dont personally look at every thing I put my foot on in airsoft, when I'm running or walking towards another player. Especially if I think I can see someone or something. The only time I tend to look at what I'm walking on is when I'm trying to be stealthy or when I'm doing CQB because you tend to stand on a grenade at some point, but it feels different on the foot compared to a tree root in the forest. 

 

[FreeFrag.UK]

I dont personally look at every thing I put my foot on in airsoft, when I'm running or walking towards another player. Especially if I think I can see someone or something. The only time I tend to look at what I'm walking on is when I'm trying to be stealthy or when I'm doing CQB because you tend to stand on a grenade at some point, but it feels different on the foot compared to a tree root in the forest. 

I don't think any of us look where we're placing every single step but this is where tactile feedback comes into the equation along with other forms of sensory input. The simple fact is that a gun will feel very different to earth underfoot. Especially when you can clearly hear the M14 creaking under the guys weight. I'm sorry but your line of argument for justification just doesn't follow any semblance of logic. If you don't think that stepping onto a gun would feel different to stepping onto uneven earth then you might want to test it by stepping onto your VSR for a similar feel to the give the M14 probably went through.

I understand what you're saying but the physics and sensations involved simply don't tally. That is unless you're either dead from the neck down or alternatively dead from the neck up.