What's wrong in Airsoft (positive)

[Skara]

5. don't have things that "count as hard cover" but actually let bb's through, it really screws with even honest players hit taking trying to figure out what's a legit hit and what just passed through the camo netting that's totally a concrete wall. if the bb hits you it hits you, end of story.

That's what f*cked up our score at the Italian finals..

Rule set clearly states that bbs passing through stuff like bushes or soft covers don't count, yet a ref called out two teammates (lost 1000 points because of that, 500 per player, shifting us from 4th overall to 9th..) because they got hit through a bush and didn't call it because of the rule..

To me what's wrong in airsoft is retailers deliberately asking ridiculous prices for some items..

I get it's a niche market here in Italy and that everyone's gotta bring bread to the table, but seeing online and proper shops asking €100 for a cheap chinese knock off chest rig really triggers me..

I am looking for itw buckles, they cost 0.75$ in the us per piece, but €3 per piece here.. I get the shipping and taxes, but selling it at 3 times what you actually paid it for is just lame..

People not calling hits don't bother me too much, i just hold down the trigger and slightly shift my aim towards their face, at some point pain takes over pride and they somehow call the hit

if they don't we just give them 1 more chance before getting kicked out of the team..

oh, and stripping pistons in the middle of an exciting fight, that's something I'd only wish to my worst enemy..

newbies that keep asking silly questions about guns and gear all the freaking time, comparing airsoft guns with their real counterparts, sometimes they get on my nerves, but that's me having a low threshold..

 

[Immortal]

Team Killers (that don't appologise)

Dead men talking (giving away positions, pointing, etc)

Frozen Rabbits (blocking the path into the action)

And a personal favourite; everything works perfectly at home and nothing works on the day.

 

[Lord Elpus]

Nothing wrong airsoft, I'm an older guy, and every sport/pastime has its crap bits to deal with. It's the people that make the game isn't it? As long as I have a laugh somewhere along the line on the day, either at myself or someone else, I don't really care.

Andy.

 

[Rogerborg]

Most sites I play at never bother with gas pistols because theres nothing stopping someone filling up a "chrono mag" with 134a gas

It's a valid point, but highlights that there's little point in chrononing anything before playing as it's trivial to power-up, take on a different gun, or just say "Yeah, sure, I chronoed, legit".  Heck, even my basic-bitch JG G36 has an adjustable spring tension.

What might stop them is a realistic risk of being chronoed in game and sent home with the hot gun.  I've been chronoed in game once, despite hearing many times that it's likely to happen.  So personally I'd like chronos to be provided at the start of the day as a tool for players who want to use them if we're in doubt, rather than everyone forming a big queue that delays the game start while doing little or nothing to prevent Jerry Joulecreep from taking a hot gun into the game.

One marshal at the respawn point, one squeeze of a speedloader into the top of the mag that was actually in the gun, pew, pew, pew, and then either play on, or go home.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

And a personal favourite; everything works perfectly at home and nothing works on the day.

amen brother

Most sites I play at never bother with gas pistols because theres nothing stopping someone filling up a "chrono mag" with 134a gas, then running on black gas. I recently got a new extended inner barrel for my WE glock, and first game I ever used it at was the AFUK Mall  event, where for the first time they insisted on chronoing pistols too. No problem thought I. I know theyre all well under.

Turns out with my new 6.01 barrel thats twice the length of the original running through a suppressor that it clocks in at a cool 390fps on its regular green gas ? Good job they did chrono it, or that could have led to some frowny faces! Sadly I didnt bring the original barrel to swap back, so spent the day pistol-less because it wont cycle on anything less than green  

yep, and yet my loud scary 1911 clocks in at 260, well, 260 on a good day.

It's a valid point, but highlights that there's little point in chrononing anything before playing as it's trivial to power-up, take on a different gun, or just say "Yeah, sure, I chronoed, legit".  Heck, even my basic-bitch JG G36 has an adjustable spring tension.

What might stop them is a realistic risk of being chronoed in game and sent home with the hot gun.  I've been chronoed in game once, despite hearing many times that it's likely to happen.  So personally I'd like chronos to be provided at the start of the day as a tool for players who want to use them if we're in doubt, rather than everyone forming a big queue that delays the game start while doing little or nothing to prevent Jerry Joulecreep from taking a hot gun into the game.

One marshal at the respawn point, one squeeze of a speedloader into the top of the mag that was actually in the gun, pew, pew, pew, and then either play on, or go home.

well said, some sites are terrible, they don't even get than 328 fps in a .5gbb is worse than 328 on a .2g bb let alone the idea of joule creep and its applications.

i suspect the only way we're going to stop joule creep is to move away from using just velocity as a measure and instead work on imparted kinetic energy, because the only way to fairly judge it is to keep a stock of every ammo weight and test each gun with the weight the owner says he's running, and even then he could still switch later on. although any method can ultimately still be cheated.

 

[sniperslucky]

Sites that are so popular but don't have the benches/tables for all that turn up.

 

[Tackle]

Every skirmish I lose or break something, but that's more Airsofter error than airsoft ?

There you go G, fixed that for you ?

 

[Callyourhits]

Not enough manufacturers of rifs and accessories/gear having decent Web domains, I like looking through glossy well presented sites as it's basically a shop window, but half the companies out here either don't bother at all or just leave all their advertising to YouTube experts. 

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU CLAIM YOUR PRODUCT CAN DO NOT WHAT SOME WEB CAM HERO THINKS 

 

[Game Cam]

I dislike when people get annoyed when I try and have a bit of fun and do a little roleplay when I get shot.

I dunno about you guys but I always love it when I shoot someone and they actually pretend to be shot (preferably in a comedic way) but some people get really annoyed cause they think I'm not taking it seriously enough.

 

[Dentonboy]

Lack of stock variation in the UK. 

Everywhere you look: Nuprol, Viper, Kombat etc. 

Trying to find Japanese airsoft bits, like Marui and WA is harder in the UK (TM easier, of course). Finding higher end gear brands (new) for a decent price is too hard as well. 

 

[skintrade]

Lack of stock variation in the UK. 

Everywhere you look: Nuprol, Viper, Kombat etc. 

Trying to find Japanese airsoft bits, like Marui and WA is harder in the UK (TM easier, of course). Finding higher end gear brands (new) for a decent price is too hard as well. 

Downside of the UK being a small marketplace with a small userbase, brands unless they have good local distribution have a hard time getting stores to hold stock as stores don't want to carry items that just sit too long and gather dust. Limited brands mean the main differences between retailers come down to price and customer service, and the retailer who has that one unique item gets ALL the business on that.

 

[THE FNG]

The cost of small pieces of plastic...

For example a battery compartment extension for the ares honey badger is £25, just for a small plastic box that would cost a quid to manufacture. Or 8 to 10 for an aftermarket hammer spring. List goes on.

One the gameday, one thing that gets annoying is the long walk up a steep slope from the safe zone to the gamezone!

The biggest pet peeve of mine is overkillers. Those guys that turn up with a >9000 rps, 349 fps m4 with a drum mag that fires 500 rounds into you from 10 feet away. Takes one good shot...

 

[jcheeseright]

The cost of small pieces of plastic...

For example a battery compartment extension for the ares honey badger is £25, just for a small plastic box that would cost a quid to manufacture. Or 8 to 10 for an aftermarket hammer spring. List goes on.

Manufacture cost alone is not the total cost. R&D time, mould costs (especially for injection moulded hard plastics, the mould alone can cost many thousands), machine time, distribution costs etc... All adds up.  

The extended battery cover for a honey badger as an example, up front costs were probably a few grand. If there's say 10,000 honey Badgers in circulation around the world and EVERYONE bought one you'd still be looking at a few quid per part, since not everyone is going to buy one the company making them need to ensure they make a profit... As does the retailer and the wholesaler. 

If they made millions of them they'd cost pence, but they didn't make millions because they wouldn't sell millions. 

 

[Adolf Hamster]

the biggest pet peeve of mine is overkillers. Those guys that turn up with a >9000 rps, 349 fps m4 with a drum mag that fires 500 rounds into you from 10 feet away. Takes one good shot...

amen, i'm happy to give only one shot, and as long as that's all it takes then that's all i'll give, but i've seen folk screaming hit loud and clear 3 or more times whilst under full auto fire from someone who definately heard them, and that's not on.

 

[Slamz]

• Non-hit taking rental players
  

What's even worse is non-hit taking regulars. All the kit, clearly dedicated to playing, yet ignoring hit after hit. There's a few at a local site, and as the marshals are next to useless, they do nothing about it. Gets super boring hitting someone who then turns round and shoots you back, time after time.

 

[jcheeseright]

What's even worse is non-hit taking regulars. All the kit, clearly dedicated to playing, yet ignoring hit after hit. There's a few at a local site, and as the marshals are next to useless, they do nothing about it. Gets super boring hitting someone who then turns round and shoots you back, time after time.

Sounds like a shit site.  While they're still getting your money they have no incentive to change, vote with your feet and play elsewhere. 

 

[Valentine]

Gotta say as a noob the whole legal part is a pain, last week I was in a shop that happens to sell a few airsoft guns and pellet/air gun and spotted a co2 1911 for a really decent price, few questions had me finding out they didn't need/want to know about ukara status even tho the pistol is black, almost jumped on it til I thought to ask what the fps came out at guessing it's technically a co2 airgun rather than airsoft since he quoted me "around 425 mate", needless to say the wallet stayed in my pocket cos as nice as it looked its pointless if I can't use it at a skirmish, hearing some places don't bother looking into handgun fps is pretty worrying knowing there's guns that'll do that out of the box available to anyone with a spare 50 quid

 

[Slamz]

Sounds like a shit site.  While they're still getting your money they have no incentive to change, vote with your feet and play elsewhere. 

Oh I have, haven't been back for a while and trying new ones instead! 

 

[Immortal]

People that only do half days... LOL

 

[Adolf Hamster]

People that only do half days... LOL

whats wrong with that? especially if you live a long way away, i mean who wants to get up at 5am on a sunday