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What you vaping?

Better vaping than smoking. As an ex smoker I have developed the usual hatred of cigarette smell and would much rather there was clouds of fruity smelling vape floating around than that shit. 

While the harmful effects on a vapour are still not clear as each study says something different one thing is sure that it is definitely less harmful to those around them than passive smoking.

At the end of the day personal choice and each to their own.

 
Neither are good for you and neither is better than the other. Having been a cigarette/othersubstance smoker since my early teens I fully understand addiction with small and larger scale substances.

I could curl your toes with some of the horror stories of my past mispent youth, as I am sure most of us could. As Trigger rightly says, personal preference and at the end of the day we should all try not to make others uncomfortable through smoking, vaping or masturbating in public.

 
As a non-smoker, casual vapers I can understand, but not the ones who get heavily into the mods and shit for these things?

Because whenever I think of pro-vapers, I think of this bullshitter



 
Finally the BMA conducted a recent report and upon conclusion...

What should I advise a patient who is asking whether they should use an e-cigarette?

Evidence favours a combination of behavioural support and pharmacotherapy as providing the highest chance of successfully quitting tobacco use.
There are now significant numbers of people using e-cigarettes, with many finding them useful for quitting cigarette use or cutting down.
While the safest option is to use neither tobacco nor e-cigarettes, there is no situation in which it is safer to continue smoking than to use an e-cigarette.
The clearest benefit to health will likely be achieved for patients who are using e-cigarettes to stop smoking tobacco altogether. If individuals continue to smoke tobacco, there are unlikely to be major benefits from using e-cigarettes.
All smokers, including those who wish to use e-cigarettes as an aid to quit smoking, should be able to access the support of local smoking cessation services, and be aware of the full range of smoking cessation interventions and support available.
 

Are e-cigarettes effective in helping people stop smoking?

E-cigarettes are now the most popular aid used in attempts to quit smoking. Many individuals who have attempted and failed to quit smoking using other methods have reported finding e-cigarettes useful in quitting or cutting down.
The evidence-base in this area remains weak, though most studies demonstrate a positive relationship between the use of e-cigarettes and smoking cessation.
Combining e-cigarettes with behavioural support is likely to increase the chance of successfully quitting tobacco use.
 

Is it safe to use an e-cigarette in the long-term?

In the absence of long-term studies it is not possible to be certain about the long-term health risks, but there is growing consensus that use of e-cigarettes is significantly safer than smoking.
Unlike cigarette smoking, e-cigarette use does not expose users to the products of combustion, and most of the toxicants causing smoking-related disease are absent or significantly reduced in e-cigarette vapour.
Indications to date are that complete switching can lead to improvements in the levels of toxins and carcinogens in urine similar to that in smokers who switch completely to NRT (nicotine replacement therapies).
 

Should e-cigarettes be used in pregnancy?

The Smoking in Pregnancy Challenge Group – a coalition of health organisations – have highlighted that although little research has been conducted into the safety of e-cigarettes in pregnancy, they are likely to be significantly less harmful to a pregnant woman and her baby than smoking cigarettes. The group suggest that while licensed NRT are the recommended option, if a pregnant woman chooses to use an e-cigarette to stay smoke free, she should not be discouraged from doing so.


Some NHS trusts are prescribing vaping for smokers wishing to quit but not fags

(they also hand out methadone & in some cases diamorphine/heroin)

I also don't 101% agree perhaps about pregnant women not being discouraged - but hey ho

Yes there is limited conclusive data just how much safer vaping is than smoking

But the medical profession does admit that as I said it is " the lesser of two evils "

Not as you said - neither is better than the other - this is incorrect

as BMA has stated above:

"....there is no situation in which it is safer to continue smoking than to use an e-cigarette."

On ‎05‎/‎05‎/‎2018 at 13:16, L3wisD said:

As a non-smoker, casual vapers I can understand, but not the ones who get heavily into the mods and shit for these things?

Because whenever I think of pro-vapers, I think of this bullshitter



Don't - think some of us dabbled in glue/gas but stay away from this crap peeps (no shit)

my cousin dabbled in butane gas & magic mushrooms collapsed & died - what a waste

These stupid fucking things we do can really fuck us up - simply put DON'T start this crap

(this includes smoking and even vaping peeps - these substances are so fucking addictive)

Funny comment though - I'll give ya that - made me chuckle

 
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Don't - think some of us dabbled in glue/gas but stay away from this crap peeps (no shit)

my cousin dabbled in butane gas & magic mushrooms collapsed & died - what a waste

These stupid fucking things we do can really fuck us up - simply put DON'T start this crap

(this includes smoking and even vaping peeps - these substances are so fucking addictive)

Funny comment though - I'll give ya that - made me chuckle
Sorry about your cousin.

It was totally said in jest, but fair point there are people who try these things and the consequences can be tragic.

Cheers

G

 
Long time ago - the good ones go first they say

No different to Leah Betts & loads of others "experimenting" with shit each year

Tragic waste of lives kids - don't fucking do it or start stupid crap

Sorry about your cousin.

It was totally said in jest, but fair point there are people who try these things and the consequences can be tragic.

Cheers

G


m8 ya fine, I took it in good jest

was funny in a light hearted way

more a warning to others reading this thread thinking vaping or other crap might be fun

think we all know somebody who screwed up - hence the sobering warning not to start crap

And to be fair, if saying vaping looks gay to help prevent younger non-smokers taking up vaping

Then yeah WTF.....

Vapers do look GAY

 
They have a nice lemon drizzle where i go

 
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Did he? Are you sure he didn't just not want you spelling it out across 35 status updates worth of images?

I defer to him though. Must be bad if he doesn't want it said heh.

 
Did he? Are you sure he didn't just not want you spelling it out across 35 status updates worth of images?

I defer to him though. Must be bad if he doesn't want it said heh.


Let's just say my mispent youth involves a lot of imbibing of illegal substances and as such should probably not be mentioned on here, we all know drugs and alcohol don't mix with airsoft. ?

 
Oh the 'no drugs' rule? That's going to a vote some time later this year so perhaps we'll hear about it yet.

 
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