Am I the ass hole?

[Adolf Hamster]

Seems to be a lot of misconception in here that the buyer pays the fees for the protection of G&S, which is not what the fee is for. It’s just a transaction fee that should be absorbed by the seller

true, this is how i usually deal with it.

selling secondhand in airsoft you're already tanking such a loss just from the way the market works what's a few extra £ on fees for a safe transaction.

 

[Rogerborg]

It’s just a transaction fee that should be absorbed by the seller

Well, costed in.  And it is something that I'll always choose to pay for as buyer, because it does give me protection, versus F&F or a bank transfer with no comeback.

This is unlike postage, which is the seller's concern, not mine.

I'm absolutely fine with sellers doing the calculation of: money they want in their pocket + postage fees for their chosen method of sending + PayPal G&S fees.

Just do it up front and list that as your asking price. Don't get an offer then start considering postage costs, or sucking your teeth and saying "Ooh, you want to use PayPal, and you don't want to just give me the money without any chance of getting it back?  Wow, such unusual, very unexpect, I'll need to work out the fees for that."

That's me, anyway.  It may be the case that most buyers are happy paying F&F / bank transfer.  I'd be fascinated to know, ideally from a prolific seller who doesn't have a clown in this fight.

 

[Groot]

Seems to be a lot of misconception in here that the buyer pays the fees for the protection of G&S, which is not what the fee is for. It’s just a transaction fee that should be absorbed by the seller

imo charging the buyer fees is a dick move in any circumstance. I’m happy to cover postage, but don’t act like bloody Ticketmaster

Why should it be absorbed by the seller?

I have listed both ways and never had an issue

I either inflate the price so you pay it.
Or i list it and you pay it. 

Either way, you are paying it. 

Same with P&P.

If they collect, they get to save on the part of the inflate price. 

This is probably why i do well on sales. I price is at what i want to get and leave it until the correct buyer comes along.
If it doesn't sell, meh not an issue. 

I am doing them a favour in being able to buy something touched by me.

 

[Druid799]

Well, costed in.  And it is something that I'll always choose to pay for as buyer, because it does give me protection, versus F&F or a bank transfer with no comeback.

This is unlike postage, which is the seller's concern, not mine.

I'm absolutely fine with sellers doing the calculation of: money they want in their pocket + postage fees for their chosen method of sending + PayPal G&S fees.

Just do it up front and list that as your asking price. Don't get an offer then start considering postage costs, or sucking your teeth and saying "Ooh, you want to use PayPal, and you don't want to just give me the money without any chance of getting it back?  Wow, such unusual, very unexpect, I'll need to work out the fees for that."

That's me, anyway.  It may be the case that most buyers are happy paying F&F / bank transfer.  I'd be fascinated to know, ideally from a prolific seller who doesn't have a clown in this fight.

100% agree , I’m selling something I post up an amount i’d ‘like’ (obviously with a number I’d be happy to take in my head)and that’s the amount I ask for . I’ve always thought when selling anything I can’t be bothered to F*** about with different prices with or without P&P , fees , etc etc if the buyer can meet me and do a face to face for cash then obviously i’d negotiate a discount on the asking price , and as basically EVERYONE uses paypal with buyer protection as standard sticking the fees on as an ‘extra’ is quite frankly a puerile thing to do and just a dick move , simple as that really .

 

[quango2k]

Nice opinion.

Sold two more items this morning, neither of them whined about the pp charges being added. 

 

[Rogerborg]

Sold two more items this morning, neither of them whined about the pp charges being added. 

They may have been mouthing things that they didn't type though.  Personally, I try not to piss off sellers, since I'm essentially relying on your goodwill to post the thing off at all.

I am genuinely curious as to why you don't list the PayPal G&S price, since in most cases you're then going to ask for that anyway, right?

Is it because you reckon you get more interest by listing at £30 rather than £31.20?  But how does that gel with flexing about having more buyers lined up than you can cope with? 

Wouldn't it be better to put off filthy poors who are going to baulk at the real price, and not waste your valuable time in dealing with their grunting and grumbling? ?

 

[Musica]

dealing with their grunting and grumbling? ?

 

[noctu]

I think you've summed up your own thread there.

 

[SBoardley]

R u fick?

I think the poll should have been:

l am asshole?

or 

I am ass hole?

or 

I am both?

just it’s been troubling me all last night; grammar n that…

 

[Ratcatcher]

I voted yes and then read the rest of the thread, and now I wish I could vote yes again.

 

[Rogerborg]

May not be entirely serious - AFUKers who spray together stay together.

At this point I'll uprate any post that escalates us to the point where someone gets threatened in real life, in Minecraft.

 

[Groot]

Sorry, I couldn't miss this meme opportunity 

 

[Oneshotscott]

he should have sold it incl PayPal fees for the price advertised.  

 

[SBoardley]

Sorry, I couldn't miss this meme opportunity 

And @Grootdrops the mic; exits stage left. Show over. 

 

[DestrO]

That's me, anyway.  It may be the case that most buyers are happy paying F&F / bank transfer.  I'd be fascinated to know, ideally from a prolific seller who doesn't have a clown in this fight.

personally when selling stuff i will ask for F&F. i would say 90% of people are ok with it off the bat, the remainder are happy to go ahead after i show them the years worth of feedback on multiple platforms i have

Personally, I try not to piss off sellers, since I'm essentially relying on your goodwill to post the thing off at all.

exactly this. the main reason people will pay fees, which is ridiculous really as that is effectively extortion 

 

[noctu]

I've JUST realised what's bugged me about this thread, all day since I saw it this morning. Couldn't put my finger on it at first.

*arsehole

 

[Wombat_Dirt]

Just wow, is this bleeting still going on, all this pushing fee's onto others is just bollocks, everything you buy has some sort of fee's added into a price somewhere be it a private or bussiness trader, making a post on how pissey people are about being asked to pay it just tells how childish people have gotten over time, my 2 pence worth and I am a grumpy old git ? 

 

[SBoardley]

Just wow, is this bleeting still going on, all this pushing fee's onto others is just bollocks, everything you buy has some sort of fee's added into a price somewhere be it a private or bussiness trader, making a post on how pissey people are about being asked to pay it just tells how childish people have gotten over time, my 2 pence worth and I am a grumpy old git ? 

So…. He’s not an asshole? Fuck I’m confused. 

 

[Jaylordofwaargh]

So…. He’s not an asshole? Fuck I’m confused. 

Guaranteed someone is, somewhere. If not for the incomplete donkey spelling I may have chosen a different opinion....