Russian kit yay or nay ?

[Rogerborg]

There is no go to governing body to handle any fallout.

I was amused to see a Failbook post today by UKAPU saying that the Discord for yesterday's AGM had been changed due to technical issues.

Thing is, I've been a UKAPU "member" for years, regularly re-"joining", and yet I've never received one single solitary email, ever, about anything.  I've been following them on Failbook as well, see-all selected, but I only ever notice a belated "Yeah, bros, here's what we decided all UK airsoft players wanted" notifications about once a year.  I've also never seen it promoted on any site, group, or forum, and I'm at a loss to recall how I ever heard about it.

I'm vaguely aware that someone on here is involved with UKAPU.  On the remote off-chance that they're reading this, I'd have to opine that UKAPU appears to be a club run by-and-for the handful of people who run it.  I've seen no evidence to suggest that it's a players' body in any meaningful sense.

 

[Cannonfodder]

Personally I couldn't give a shit what loadout someone wears to play. If someone else is going to get offended then that's their problem not mine. 

As for the gutter press getting hold of photos, I remember a few years ago the scum published photos from a site who used shemargs to ID teams. At the time there were lots of people saying it would be the end of airsoft but in reality it was just next weeks chip paper 

 

[Rogerborg]

As for the gutter press getting hold of photos

A gentle reminder of the playbook for when you get a call / message from someone claiming to be a reporter from the Daily Drama, demanding that you explain why you refuse to disavow the Russian-Nazi-Nonce-Lizards infesting your hobby.

1) Put the phone down / delete the message, and block.  Give them nothing, not one single word.

2) Repeat as necessary for up to 7 days.

3) The story is over.

 

[Jaylordofwaargh]

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/airsoft-cardiff-ukraine-russia-conflict-23224443

As if on queue.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

There's always one.....

 

[Tactical Pith Helmet]

I've seen no evidence to suggest that it's a players' body in any meaningful sense.

During lockdown one, wrestling firms (fat blokes in leotards, not MMA etc) were left out of schemes for sports venues.  Lack of a governing body meant wrestlers were ineligible to call themselves sports persons.  Same obviously with airsoft sites.  The APPG on sport also had concerns re: safeguarding and exclusion from child protection legislation.  

Mark Fletcher (newly elected and publicity hungry) MP raised the (novel tabloid friendly) issue in parliament and lo and behold, after years of saying that it could never be done, a body was formed, by those saying that they never could form one.  

I'd rather see sites get their act together and standardize game rules etc and form some substantial trade organisation, than wait for a whole slew of bad publicity to combine with an MP or other public person with some self aggrandising/promoting campaign to stop children playing at simulating killing each other/learning terrorism skills/being at the mercy of marshals with no safeguarding policies/other old bollocks etc etc.  Until then we cross our fingers and hope that any such silliness does indeed wrap tomorrows chips and achieve fuck all else.   

Like you, I donate/renew UKAPU each year, but as you say, they seem to be missing in inaction.   

 

[Spartan09]

Errr seeing the footage of Russian forces invading a peaceful country... hello

Or do you actually believe the laughable propaganda shit that 'Ukraine attacked first' !?!?!?!

i dont really believe anything any news source says.  the past few years has made me jaded beyond my years....

and as for the propaganda claim that ukraine attacked first...  its the same excuse the Nazis used to justify invading poland...

they claimed that poland had attacked a german radio station at Gleiwitz and then broadcast a propaganda message to the german people in polish.... despite the fact it was really an SS unit that attacked the radio station...  then the next day the tanks were rolling across the border
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident
 

or some marshall that thinks setting themed objectives around the current conflict is a good idea.

too late...    airsoft cardiff have already stepped onto that particular landmine...   







getting back to the issue initially raised.. though not really saying anything that hasnt already been said...

I don't have any russian kit, but if i did, then at this moment in time, i would avoid wearing it to avoid any possible issues (offended snowflake or pond-scum journalist out with their big wooden shit-stirring spoon) i had been planning on purchasing an AK and getting some eastern-bloc gear (not necessarily russian), but given what's going on in Ukraine, i will be holding off on those plans as well..
i know a few guys who do run russian gear and if they decide they want to run it, I personally don't care. at the end of the day we are all playing dress-up and shooting each other with toy guns.

 

[Cannonfodder]

A gentle reminder of the playbook for when you get a call / message from someone claiming to be a reporter from the Daily Drama, demanding that you explain why you refuse to disavow the Russian-Nazi-Nonce-Lizards infesting your hobby.

1) Put the phone down / delete the message, and block.  Give them nothing, not one single word.

2) Repeat as necessary for up to 7 days.

3) The story is over.

I prefer something like this firefighter's reply to the scum asking if they can use his twitter post after the Grenfell tower fire

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[Asomodai]

Like you, I donate/renew UKAPU each year, but as you say, they seem to be missing in inaction.   

I attended the UKAPU AGM and Management meeting on Thursday night. We are going to be forming a National Governing Body (Not a Sporting Governing body, at the moment anyway). A statement of intent should be made public in March. It is the opinion of UKAPU Leadership that they have practically no reasons not to at least attempt it. We have pretty much all of the documents required for us to seem at least legitimate. We also hit the 3500~ Members mark this year.

 

[Algy]

Wearing full Russian ,or even Ukrainian, clobber at the moment would be in poor taste. But that didn't stop plenty of guys going full LARP during the Global War on Terrorism, when it can't be said that US/UK/Allied nations always acted with the utmost moral rectitude. Nobody's breaking any laws other than transgressing good taste, but there's no accounting for taste.

 

[Skullchewer]

There was a guy on site today with a russian flag patch and a thick eastern european accent.
Bold move.
Got shot a lot.

 

[Beslan]

So stupid -“There was a guy on site today with a russian flag patch and a thick eastern european accent.
Bold move.
Got shot a lot.”

so everyone with Russian flag patch is enemy . Absolutely stupid. 

 

[Skullchewer]

So stupid -“There was a guy on site today with a russian flag patch and a thick eastern european accent.
Bold move.
Got shot a lot.”

so everyone with Russian flag patch is enemy . Absolutely stupid. 

Nice assumption. 

 

[Beslan]

Maybe , but your comment is absolutely unnecessary. It’s a hobby . 

 

[Druid799]

There’s an awful lot of lame ass excuses(“oh most players won’t recognise it’s Russian” or comparing the current invasion with the Crimea/Chechnya , saying no modern military is beyond reproach for their behaviour or everyones all time favourite “we’re grown adults shooting each other with toy guns !”) being floated to legitamize using recognisable Russian kit , err it’s really bad taste at the moment simple as that ? Russia is invading another country on live tv as we speak so not a stretch to say it’s very insensitive to wear it at the moment ? 6mths-12mth time ? Probably won’t be such a problem but now ? sorry your just an insensitive cock if you do wear it . 

 

[rj1986]

Speaking of which -  have people seen the Airsoft Cardiff reply to this?

The response to is is hilariously stupid and stupidly hilariously.

edit: saw someone already posted the wales online story and original post.

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[Skullchewer]

Jfc, they really are dumb asses ??

 

[Tackle]

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DA FUQ!!! ?‍?, so once Airsoft Cardiff have "trained" us lol, wtf are we gonna defend our families with from the invading russki hordes, cos I don't think my current Airsoft gats are gonna cut it ?. 

That's the most stupid statement I've literally EVER heard in airsoft, is Airsoft Cardiff run by retarded 14yo walts ffs?

 

[TheFull9]

Worse.  Probably Welsh.

 

[Tommikka]

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DA FUQ!!! ?‍?, so once Airsoft Cardiff have "trained" us lol, wtf are we gonna defend our families with from the invading russki hordes, cos I don't think my current Airsoft gats are gonna cut it ?. 

That's the most stupid statement I've literally EVER heard in airsoft, is Airsoft Cardiff run by retarded 14yo walts ffs?

Airsoft Cardiff have sent their finest to support the Ukrainian effort

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/t26kt1/theres_always_going_to_be_that_1_guy_no_matter