Russian kit yay or nay ?

Cannonfodder said:
Posted on Facebook by Reforger. Some people really do need a good slap, preferably with a chair

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Oh what the actual fuck? People did that? I'm surprised they didn't just get kicked straight off the field. His response seems pretty measured though and I'm glad they didn't go so far as to outright ban Russian kit because that's a slippery slope. Then you have the question of what Russian style kit is and isn't ok and if you draw a line people are going to want to find out exactly where it is. 

 
PopRocket123 said:
I'm surprised they didn't just get kicked straight off the field
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Sadly, I'm not, at all. I'd hope they were, but I doubt it.  And I'd expect half of them to be back on the next game day, pretending ignorance, saying "No patch, no problem", or just not giving a toss.  I'd like to be wrong about that, but the players who aren't a problem don't need told how to behave, and the players who are don't listen or care - that's why they're a problem.  It's not the patches, it's the players.

Airsoft sites don't need so many rules, and they don't need so much being said.  Actually punt the dickish 5-10% off site, on the day, and all the problems are gone.

I say this in the full knowledge that it's far easier said than done, and it's something I've got no interest in putting into action. But that doesn't make it any less true.

 
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Rogerborg said:
……, it's the players.

Airsoft sites don't need so many rules, and they don't need so much being said.  Actually punt the dickish 5-10% off site, on the day, and all the problems are gone.

I say this in the full knowledge that it's far easier said than done, and it's something I've got no interest in putting into action. But that doesn't make it any less true……
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Whilst majorly attempting to avoid specifics, as discussed with a site owner once ……

They had a booking from a particular group of stereotypes, and dreaded the level of management & marshalling needed whilst considering excuses to reject the booking without ramifications 

But on the day it was one of the best groups they have had - purely a group of people who wanted to enjoy a day out shooting each other along with fat wallets

 
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Tommikka said:
But on the day it was one of the best groups they have had
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This is my point. What matters is what happens on site, on the day.

Both in terms of what players do, and what marshals and site owners do in immediate response.

I'm sticking with my view that time served, good-at-the-job door security make the best site staff.  It's much the same skillset: being friendly and welcoming while spotting potential problems, sounding them out and heading them off early, and ultimately being prepared to say "End of discussion, leave now" and mean it.

Back your local bouncers.

 
Wow, I never thought I'd encounter a Putin follower ?

Nevermind, onto the ignore list you go...  

 
EDcase said:
In the middle??????? Are you joking?

There is absolutely NO truth in anything coming out of that communist dictatorship
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Russia hasn't been considered Communist, nor has it been run by Communists since the fall of the union. It has been passed off as a weak Parliamentary Democracy but is actually controlled by an Authoritarian Conservative Capitalist Dictatorship. 

I am unsure why on earth people still think Russia is run by a Communist or Communist party. The SU was certainly Communistic Totalitarianism at it's core. 

Like many political stances and parties with "Labels" such as Conservative, Democratic, Socialist, Communist, Capitalist. Their actions generally have very little to do with their label beyond lip service.

 
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Asomodai said:
Russia hasn't been considered Communist, nor has it been run by Communists since the fall of the union. It has been passed off as a weak Parliamentary Democracy by but is actually controlled by an Authoritarian Conservative Capitalist Dictatorship. 

I am unsure why on earth people still think Russia is run by a Communist. The SU was certainly Communistic Totalitarianism at it's core. 

Like many political stances and parties with "Labels" such as Conservative, Democratic, Socialist, Communist, Capitalist. Their actions generally have very little to do with their label beyond lip service.
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True, the label 'Communist' has been replaced but Putin clearly wants to bring back its ideological 'glory days'.

Anyway, I don't think this is a good subject for an airsoft forum so I'll drop it.

 
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The quote is not an insult, nor was it used in that tone. it simply refers to the conversation being held, how these events are brought about and how we are manipulated to “feel” about it

 
EDcase said:
True, the label 'Communist' has been replaced but Putin clearly wants to bring back its ideological 'glory days'.

Anyway, I don't think this is a good subject for an airsoft forum so I'll drop it.
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Putin wants to be the ultimate dictator and be as expansionist as the previous regime. But nothing about him is Communist. So again, I am not sure why you would say Russia is Communist. Were you wrong in that statement? 

You did bring up the politics in this Airsoft forum.

 
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I'd rather shag a bag of nettles than to read the political tripe above (if you want to talk politics regards the Russian /Ukraine conflict, then make a thread in the "off topic" section). so back to the original topic... 

Russian kit yay or nay? 

I say sure. Why not. 

It's not like people are barred from wearing the uniform of enemy forces is it? How many taliban/German /Vietnamese dressed players have you seen? I've seen lots. 

It's not like the uniform someone wears means that they support the country or military behind it. 

Wear what you want. Have fun. 

Airsoft is a simple game to play unless you're a jumped up walt/nobber/General bellend. Don't spoil it. 

 
Asomodai said:
Putin wants to be the ultimate dictator and be as expansionist as the previous regime. But nothing about him is Communist. So again, I am not sure why you would say Russia is Communist. Were you wrong in that statement? 

You did bring up the politics in this Airsoft forum.
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I think he wants to bring back the Communist regime but I'll admit the name isn't significant.  He's an asshole and we'll leave it at that ?

 
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Personally, I don't particularly mind myself or others wearing Russian gear in games. How many modern armies are completely innocent? Is the US military doing good in various Middle Eastern countries? But fans of American gear are still the most numerous. The difference in my opinion is that the US is prepared with good sounding reasons and excuses.

 
YAo said:
Personally, I don't particularly mind myself or others wearing Russian gear in games. How many modern armies are completely innocent? Is the US military doing good in various Middle Eastern countries? But fans of American gear are still the most numerous. The difference in my opinion is that the US is prepared with good sounding reasons and excuses.
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I’m impressed I haven’t seen that good an apologist excuse in a very long time ! You a Russian ? by any chance ? ?‍♂️

 
Well if you have Russian kit it might go up in value. A lot of it seems to have holes in it now, especially the trousers.

In order to avoid controversy probably best to wear the Magdelene Nun load out instead of playing as a Red Dawn extra.

 
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