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THE TM MWS thread

Thanks for the straight up answer, appreciate that. First dabble into the GBBR realm so want to keep it simple.

 
Groot said:
Converting to a DMR. Maybe I will find a new love then.

So I want to up the power and set to a single shot DMR.

I have searched on NPAS and Single shot mod, but failing to get the answers i want.. So I will politely ask directly.

What NPAS should I buy? The RA-Tech appears out of stock everywhere and seems to be the one people are using but hey ho.

What is the simplest mod to change the box to single shot, that could be reversed

Thanks
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Using a spare fire selector you can modify it to be semi auto only.

You can also modify the stock floating valve and make you own npas, covered 20ish pages back i think.

Wavey_Gravey said:
Hi all,

I’ve skimmed the whole thread, lots of talk about upgrades, internal and external etc…my question is…

Can I pick up an MWS, bone stock and run it without an NPAS or anything internally changed and run it sub 350fps just changing the gas strength depending on the weather?
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You can adjsut power with all available gasses on a standard MWS from sub 300 to 360 :)

 
Hi guys new to this mws scene long time lurker ;)  I don’t actually have a mws yet (yet is the word).. anyway I don’t play as often as I like anymore and have always fancied a gbbr but been put off by the uk weather. I’ve got a tm Mk18 ngrs that I’m currently using but feel it’s a bit dull. Yeah it’s great at range etc but there’s hardly any feedback.. ill get to the point.. 

Has anyone traded or sold there ngrs to get a mws? Any regrets at all?

cheers again 

love the posts and pics btw folks makes me want one even more haha 

 
GothicGhost said:
Very nice ?

Using a fixed stock does the different buffer more heavy? With slower rate?

Thank.
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Cheers! The rifle length buffer has a selection of different weights you can use should you wish a heavier recoil. I opted to leave them out so it was more gas efficient when using the shorter magazines. 

 
Sylithics said:
Has anyone traded or sold there ngrs to get a mws?
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So I haven’t sold my NGRS to get an MWS as I still have it as a safety net, but I can’t remember the last time I used it in anger. I have a number of MWS and they are so reliable all year round that the NGRS doesn’t get a look in.

I actually started a thread about selling it and it will be on the chopping block as soon as I can dig out the box.

That being said I personally would never go to a skirmish without a backup rifle. I’m time poor so don’t get to go to as many games as I would like so it would suck if a mechanical failure ended my day early. But that is as likely with electric as gas.

 
Sylithics said:
Hi guys new to this mws scene long time lurker ;)  I don’t actually have a mws yet (yet is the word).. anyway I don’t play as often as I like anymore and have always fancied a gbbr but been put off by the uk weather. I’ve got a tm Mk18 ngrs that I’m currently using but feel it’s a bit dull. Yeah it’s great at range etc but there’s hardly any feedback.. ill get to the point.. 

Has anyone traded or sold there ngrs to get a mws? Any regrets at all?
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It's such a subjective question that any answer is largely moot, seems like you're ultimately trying to get folks to justify whatever decision you're leaning toward... which given the thread you've asked in is likely going to have a fairly biased leaning. So, trying to be objective.

Things you'll loose:

  • Mag capacity
  • Being able to use fancy speedloaders without adapters (which often don't work)
  • Being able to treat your mags like crap
  • Having mags which are less than half a kilogram each
  • A larger degree of control over shot to shot consistency in terms of FPS/Joules (depends how well maintained your NGRS is)
  • Not having to worry about weather (that's not to say I've ever found weather to be an issue, but I've definitely had some cold mornings where the drive is spent praying the MWS will run right)
  • Buying some decent batteries and that being a one off cost (assuming you look after them)
  • Easy to source parts, both stock and aftermarket, in the UK


Things you'll gain:

  • More 'immersion'
  • Being able to use more RS parts (with some needing modification to varying extents)
  • Very expensive mags
  • Heavy mags (I tend to advise moving to RS pouches/load bearing when moving to GBBRs due the mag weight... may not be necessary, but I certainly don't want a kit failure knackering a £50 mag)
  • The ongoing cost of whatever you choose to power it with
  • Having to order many of the parts you want, both stock and aftermarket, from abroad


I'm sure there are more that hairs could be split over, but they feel like the big ones, it's largely 'mag centric' for me. You'll kinda have to pick your poison from there. FWIW I have both, and wouldn't want to be without either. Sometimes I just want a day of light 120 round mags, wang a battery in when I arrive on site and have at it. Sometimes I want to torture myself with 35 round mags and make up for it with a dose of GBBR ASMR. Sometimes I'll do one in the morning and swap over for the afternoon, so from my experience I'd hold onto the NGRS and just do a good ol' fashioned 'save up' for the MWS. But as I said at the top of the post... my opinion is entirely moot because I'm not you.

 
Thanks mate appreciate the help, I do love the immersion of the ngrs that’s why I got it in the first place but there’s nothing really behind it so to speak to when I push the bolt catch etc. But I do think your right, I’ll try and save up for a mws and keep my ngrs. 
 

thanks again ?

 
Sylithics said:
Hi guys new to this mws scene long time lurker ;)  I don’t actually have a mws yet (yet is the word).. anyway I don’t play as often as I like anymore and have always fancied a gbbr but been put off by the uk weather. I’ve got a tm Mk18 ngrs that I’m currently using but feel it’s a bit dull. Yeah it’s great at range etc but there’s hardly any feedback.. ill get to the point.. 

Has anyone traded or sold there ngrs to get a mws? Any regrets at all?

cheers again 

love the posts and pics btw folks makes me want one even more haha 
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GBBR have a role and a realism aspect, but a well tuned AEG will be beat them in every way. Except in super heavy rain, where electrics do not fair very well. 

GBBR's have a cool realism aspect you will not get on all but the very highest end GBLS M4. Which cost around 3-4 times more than an MWS. Even then, the GBBR has the realism edge and a nicer trigger. 

But you will have to deal with gas temps, purging mags, higher maintenance and much lower ammo counts. All while carrying mags, which weigh a lot more and are relatively fragile compared to an AEG Midcap. 

I am still yet to be won over by my MWS, which I hope will happen by turning it into a 1.88J DMR running 0.45s 

I want to love it, but i would rather win

 

 
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Top tip from the weekend playing CQB at Gloucester prison - take a pistol sized speedloader full of BBs out with you and you have effectively doubled the number of mags you have for only a few grams extra! Easy to top up the mags on the walk to the respawn :)  TBH one in the gun and two spare on the chest rig would have been plenty. It is amazing how far 35rds can go when you make each one count.

I keep hearing about extra maintenance that GBBRs take. I timed my post game clean up (ignoring cleaning the barrel as AEGs need that too) and it was about 7mins. Much less faff than storage charging LiPos then recharging before the game!

 
SSPKali said:
Top tip from the weekend playing CQB at Gloucester prison - take a pistol sized speedloader full of BBs out with you and you have effectively doubled the number of mags you have for only a few grams extra! Easy to top up the mags on the walk to the respawn :)  TBH one in the gun and two spare on the chest rig would have been plenty. It is amazing how far 35rds can go when you make each one count.

I keep hearing about extra maintenance that GBBRs take. I timed my post game clean up (ignoring cleaning the barrel as AEGs need that too) and it was about 7mins. Much less faff than storage charging LiPos then recharging before the game!
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Oooooh I've always wondered what prison life was like ?. It's a site which is for sure on my to-do list....  Looks like an epic place to play too...

 
I only use 3 mags myself with the TM speed loader in my front pouch I can reload mags very fast.

In an emergency, I have my pistol with one magazine if I need to but that rarely happens and topping up mages with gas and ammo pretty fast processor me.

Once I get HPA it be even better with no gas refill and good in any weather ?

 
GothicGhost said:
I only use 3 mags myself with the TM speed loader in my front pouch I can reload mags very fast.

In an emergency, I have my pistol with one magazine if I need to but that rarely happens and topping up mages with gas and ammo pretty fast processor me.

Once I get HPA it be even better with no gas refill and good in any weather ?
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Aye, it'll be so much easier replacing gas refills with...

  • Carrying a heavy tank on your back
  • Having to disconnect and reconnect a line everytime you reload (or having a drum mag made up, which will just be a significant weight increase)
  • Reducing have easy the RIF is to manipulate because you're tethered to it
  • Having to get your tank filled up
  • Doing maintenance on your HPA equipment to keep it airtight and safe
  • Doing additional maintenance on everything because the air is so dry


Yup, a real time saver and increase in convenience ?. The beneft of HPA is consistency and that's about it, outside of that you're making your life harder versus running it as a regular GBBR.

 
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I would rather have the consistency, especially in the colder months.

Also HPA would be used for my pistols and VSR later ?

 
GothicGhost said:
I would rather have the consistency, especially in the colder months.

Also HPA would be used for my pistols and VSR later ?
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You’re more than welcome to justify your choice as much as you wish, I just wanted to highlight that you’re making a claim that HPA is going to improve something that it isn’t. I’d strongly recommend you do some proper research and weigh up the positives and negatives. I’m not intending to entirely come across as a prick here (while fully aware I am), but given you’re statement in your previous post it leaps out to me that you perhaps don’t know exactly what running a RIF on HPA entails.

I dare say you’re far more worried about the cold weather than you should be, but it seems you’ve got your mind set on it so I won’t waste any further breath.

My final piece of advice being, once you’ve tarnished those poor mags with HPA taps I’d probably avoid putting photos of them in here. Lest you be bombarded with ‘Careful Nows’ and burn the witch gifs… and that’s assuming the folks decide to keep it civil ?. As always, you do you, but it’s probably for the best that you know what to expect.

 
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alxndrhll said:
You’re more than welcome to justify your choice as much as you wish, I just wanted to highlight that you’re making a claim that HPA is going to improve something that it isn’t. I’d strongly recommend you do some proper research and weigh up the positives and negatives. I’m not intending to entirely come across as a prick here (while fully aware I am), but given you’re statement in your previous post it leaps out to me that you perhaps don’t know exactly what running a RIF on HPA entails.

I dare say you’re far more worried about the cold weather than you should be, but it seems you’ve got your mind set on it so I won’t waste any further breath.

My final piece of advice being, once you’ve tarnished those poor mags with HPA taps I’d probably avoid putting photos of them in here. Lest you be bombarded with ‘Careful Nows’ and burn the witch gifs… and that’s assuming the folks decide to keep it civil ?. As always, you do you, but it’s probably for the best that you know what to expect.
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Careful now... It is HPA month 
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