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Macks airsoft dreamers of the week thread

golden rule of airsoft- be very wary of anything that's "likely an easy fix"

because the question then becomes if it's an easy fix then why doesn't the owner want to fix it?

in this case it looks likely to be poor air seal, something someone confident in tech work is probably going to be tinkering with on any gun they buy anyway (even brand new), however it could also be something more sinister, like stripped teeth or a mangled spring. also potentially worrying on a high speed build that looks like it's taken a fair few names.

on a side note this is also one of the stronger arguments for anyone wanting to learn tech work, takes a lot of headache and worry out of secondhand buying if you have the confidence to know that you can deal with any hidden problems.

 
Adolf Hamster said:
on a side note this is also one of the stronger arguments for anyone wanting to learn tech work, takes a lot of headache and worry out of secondhand buying if you have the confidence to know that you can deal with any hidden problems
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I feel like this gas guns, but they are an order of magnitude easier to work on, in my experience, and another order of magnitude more satisfying ?

 
rocketdogbert said:
I feel like this gas guns, but they are an order of magnitude easier to work on, in my experience, and another order of magnitude more satisfying ?
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can depend on what's up with it.

problem i have with gas guns is a lot of the time you're talking proprietary parts which on it's own isnt a problem, until one of said parts is the one that needs a fixin.

however granted for the most part inspecting key parts for the common failures is a fair bit easier than the rigmarole of pulling and splitting a gearbox.

 
rocketdogbert said:
I feel like this gas guns, but they are an order of magnitude easier to work on, in my experience, and another order of magnitude more satisfying ?
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Exactly my experience with buying the WE MSK being an “easy fix” only to discover that there’s a whole reddit novel dedicated to telling WE their designer/engineer should be sacked and everyone’s converted them to HPA... 

^ But agreed... once they work, has guns are another level of fun to have a play with ?

 
This isn't a dig at this particular member, the gun looks lovely.

More a dig at when people say "fully upgraded"

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rocketdogbert said:
By definition, no gun can be. As soon as it is, it becomes triggers broom ??
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not to mention, and this methinks is the more important point, that a stock gun put together by someone who knows what they're at can shoot as well if not better than a gun haphazardly thrown together from the most premium parts you can get.

 
Adolf Hamster said:
not to mention, and this methinks is the more important point, that a stock gun put together by someone who knows what they're at can shoot as well if not better than a gun haphazardly thrown together from the most premium parts you can get.
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So true, I'm fed up seeing "getting a new/first gun, what upgrades should I do" threads, just use it FFS, as your likely to fook it up trying to throw money at it.

Some great budget guns out there, I'd rather buy two variants, instead of buying one & then spending as much again trying to make it something it's not, nor will it ever be lol.

 
Tackle said:
So true, I'm fed up seeing "getting a new/first gun, what upgrades should I do" threads, just use it FFS, as your likely to fook it up trying to throw money at it.

Some great budget guns out there, I'd rather buy two variants, instead of buying one & then spending as much again trying to make it something it's not, nor will it ever be lol.
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i dunno, you gotta start somewhere, i'd be a hypocrite if i said i didn't do exactly the same (hell i double whammy'd it by buying a unicorn as a first gun), i've walked that walk of shame with a broken gat many times (even several times in one game)

pretty much everything i've learned has come mostly from fucking it up the first time and never letting a good gun sit for long without trying out some new tweak. hell the reason i joined this forum was a madcap "i'm gonna revolutionize airsoft" idea which unsurprisingly went nowhere.

hell i still do it, can't stop, it's an obsession.

i probably need help......

however, the one bit of advice i wish anyone, including past me, would take on board before starting the roller-coaster that is modding airsoft guns is this:

have a good backup before you start. and don't fuck with it

 
Adolf Hamster said:
i dunno, you gotta start somewhere, 
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This has gone off topic but I will just say that the main issue I've seen is a lot of new players seem to be under the impression that if you want to improve the gears you just unscrew the gearbox and chuck an expensive set in. The key ingredient to actually "upgrading" your gun is fine tuning so all the parts work exactly as they should and in unison with the others.

 
I realise that this one may have already been posted but here's another contender: Link (really need to look up how to embed these links to give a preview).

It's an ASG B&T MP9A1 and it is priced at £380.00 which includes:

  • MP9 £200 
  • Red dot sight £35
  • 3 Extra magazine £44.99 each (leak free magazine) 
  • MP9 QD Suppresor Quick detach £55
The price isn't that far off the full retail price. Admittedly it does look in good condition as far as the externals go.

 
Cr0-Magnon said:
This has gone off topic but I will just say that the main issue I've seen is a lot of new players seem to be under the impression that if you want to improve the gears you just unscrew the gearbox and chuck an expensive set in. The key ingredient to actually "upgrading" your gun is fine tuning so all the parts work exactly as they should and in unison with the others.
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this is indeed true, i think the issue is that a lot of what you see/read tends to be "do x to get y" when the reality is it's a multi-variable problem and whilst often advice can be right for one aspect of the problem, it won't do much on its own.

eg when folk ask for range you'll hear "sort your air seal", "upgrade your hop" or "run heavy ammo" when the reality is you've got to do all 3.

or the other big mistake, is assuming that cost=performance=fun.

 
FreeFrag.UK said:
I realise that this one may have already been posted but here's another contender: Link (really need to look up how to embed these links to give a preview).

It's an ASG B&T MP9A1 and it is priced at £380.00 which includes:

  • MP9 £200 
  • Red dot sight £35
  • 3 Extra magazine £44.99 each (leak free magazine) 
  • MP9 QD Suppresor Quick detach £55
The price isn't that far off the full retail price. Admittedly it does look in good condition as far as the externals go.
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Just copy and paste the url...

Agreed, at 70% of retail this should be around the 300 mark. Likely put a higher ask to expect people to negotiate him down. Still about £30 too much for that though really.

Is a tidy looking gun though. 

I paid £320 all in for one with 3 mags and the same parts, mine also had the cqb bolt installed, seller doesnt mention in this if it has it, it says 340fps so maybe it has but if it doesnt then its likely to be higher, its also a hard to find part and costs £50. 

 
Albiscuit said:
Agreed, at 70% of retail this should be around the 300 mark. Likely put a higher ask to expect people to negotiate him down. Still about £30 too much for that though really.

Is a tidy looking gun though. 

I paid £320 all in for one with 3 mags and the same parts, mine also had the cqb bolt installed, seller doesnt mention in this if it has it, it says 340fps so maybe it has but if it doesnt then its likely to be higher, its also a hard to find part and costs £50. 
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To be honest at £300 + P&P I'd definitely have it off him on payday.

 
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