What are you looking for in Airsoft?

[Rogerborg]

All too often there is a group of players that are late to everything slowing down the day for everyone else unfortunately the group changes throughout the day so its not as simple as saying they have to sit out as you have to give people fair warning/benefit of the doubt

Have you tried it though?  I ask because I fully agree with the above, and am usually the first to chrono, and to the briefing spot, which gives me the leisure to listen to the many, many, many times that site owners have to yell at Tommy Tardy to get a bloody move on.

As a constructive suggestion, we're pretty well programmed to obey machines now, so perhaps if sites used a siren or even a whistle to announce, say, 5 minutes to leave the safe zone, 1 minute, then that's it, you had fair warning, you had it twice, now the zone is locked off, and you can join the next game.

It would hack off the Tardies, but a public sitting-out pour encourager les autres might lead to less time being wasted for everyone over the day.  It would certainly save a lot of yelling.

Watch some of those latecomers, there was a team, formed & led by a mouthy Aussie bird, who always arrive late, literally during game play, so missing chrono's, one day myself & another Marshall pounced on them, everyone failed the chrono, but what a surprise they all had a lower fps gun back in the car.

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At my local CQB site, they'd be going home with their hot guns.  No second chances.  Well, that's the stated policy.  I'd like to hope that it's enforced.

 

[Game Cam]

I would like:

- you know those free running places with foam buildings? I want to play in one of those as I think free running Airsoft would be a hoot.

- A indoor Airsoft place in Norfolk (just covert one of the failed estates in Yarmouth)

- More variety in guns available and more people using different guns.

- Vehicle and drone use.

- More teamwork

- More roleplay (pretend to die instead of just hand up)

- More people just having a laugh instead of shouting at other unnesscarly.

- More people growing a pair and pushing.

- Maybe if there was no cheaters - adding a more interesting hit system (if hit in arm, you can't use it, etc)

- More casual events.

- Maybe Airsoft on TV.

And loads more but I don't want to take up the whole thread.

 

[clumpyedge]

Watch some of those latecomers, there was a team, formed & led by a mouthy Aussie bird, who always arrive late, literally during game play, so missing chrono's, one day myself & another Marshall pounced on them, everyone failed the chrono, but what a surprise they all had a lower fps gun back in the car.

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No one plays at our site unless they chrono and have a tag we take a chrono and tags out in the field and check people throughout the day so isn't really an issue for us as the safezone team tell us if a player is late and that they need chroning (guns are checked before leaving the safe zone), all tags are checked throughout the day in various ways also. If people try to be sneaky and not declare their guns/get them chono'd and they are found out they will get sent back to safezone/asked to leave

Have you tried it though?  I ask because I fully agree with the above, and am usually the first to chrono, and to the briefing spot, which gives me the leisure to listen to the many, many, many times that site owners have to yell at Tommy Tardy to get a bloody move on.

As a constructive suggestion, we're pretty well programmed to obey machines now, so perhaps if sites used a siren or even a whistle to announce, say, 5 minutes to leave the safe zone, 1 minute, then that's it, you had fair warning, you had it twice, now the zone is locked off, and you can join the next game.

It would hack off the tardies, but a public sitting-out pour encourager les autres might lead to less time being wasted for everyone over the day.  It would certainly save a lot of yelling.

We have yes. We're not worried about sending people back/leaving them out of games if they persistently don't listen or are a general disruption to briefs etc our site is quite a transient site so we don't always get a large number of regulars but we do get a large amount of rentals and new players. We always do a shout out when chrono opens and also 10 minutes before it closes.

If we are in the game zone and people are talking during a brief usually waiting and looking at the person/group until either everyone looks at them or they just shut up naturally after realising its all quiet apart from them works.

- Vehicle and drone use.

- More teamwork

- More roleplay (pretend to die instead of just hand up)

Thought of playing more milsim/filmsim/whatever other sim now exists?

 

[klein]

I take my 16 year old regular playing airsoft 

He is not allowed to use pyro but people are allowed to through pyro at him

And generally trying to get more kids into airsoft

 

[Seth_Erebor]

Teamwork, plain and simple.

Well not plain or simple actually, teams should compliment each other not just be more of the same.

Give me the ability to be an asset to my team!

As for anything site-related, no comment

 

[RMDavis]

I'd like a few local villages to be seized, evacuated and turned into game zones.

Perhaps just designate a new county, the County of PewPew where you drive in and game on till you leave the borders.

Stuff like that really...

This would be incredible! ?

 

[MisterG]

Need more CQB sites near me - its not like frikking LONDON has no buildings, heck we have tons of abandoned factories, warehouses, hospitals etc cant we play in those before they are turned into (UN)affordable luxury flats?

Less hate for HPA - too many people hate on it and those who use it, ok you dont like the line fine, i dont mind it so stop giving me dirties. Not every HPA user (i for one) puts their Polarstar powered gun at 600FPS at 500RPS, there are more responsible HPA users than abusers.

This +1

With the Mall closing I need somewhere to play in winter, and don't want to go all the way across London to Greenwich.

 

[RMDavis]

This +1

With the Mall closing I need somewhere to play in winter, and don't want to go all the way across London to Greenwich.

After only just getting back into the sport, I'm gutted I've missed out on having 'The Mall' on my doorstep (managed to play two games there this month)

They are hopeful in finding another site, but I doubt anything could compare to the uniqueness of the Mall especially in this area...

Would love some more CQB sites, and maybe as mentioned some more 'village/town' based environments that offer indoor and outdoor game play in an urban environment.  

 

[MisterG]

DMR FPS limit consistency across sites, I have heard of 370, 380, 400, 420, 425, 450 and 500.

Of course 500 would be ideal ? , but even consistently 450 would be great.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Teamwork, plain and simple.

amen, some simple tips i've seen from sites (in the form of a general rant admittedly)

don't give the guy with a pkm the medic role- he's a freakin support gunner

medics shouldn't be blazing into combat, sure you need to be on the frontlines to help people but you're also not supposed to die (i've yet to meet an airsoft medic that didn't do this)

snipers should stop going mark wahlerg and actually engage in helping their team-mates when they're in sticky situations

if you see a support gunner wildly firing in the direction of the enemy do not for the love of god sit and whine to him about "you only need 1 shot mate", it's called suppressing fire and the time you spend complaining would be better spent flanking the enemy and rigorously demonstrating your 1 shot 1 kill prowess.

when defending/holding an objective make sure to scan everywhere, not just where the enemy is attacking currently, just because you're not piling into the fray doesn't mean it's not useful (unless there's extenuating circumstances like you know the enemy can only attack from 1 direction)

and finally when you are in a team, don't just walk along in a pile, actually scratch that, do walk along in a closely packed line, will make it easier for me to take you all out with 1 burst.

 

[clumpyedge]

I take my 16 year old regular playing airsoft 

He is not allowed to use pyro but people are allowed to through pyro at him

And generally trying to get more kids into airsoft

He also can’t drink but people can drink around him...

They are technically fireworks and as such come with age with age restrictions as do FPS limits.

Kids get into Airsoft just fine without needing pyro, I can say this by our clientele’s demographic 

 

[Druid799]

amen, some simple tips i've seen from sites (in the form of a general rant admittedly)

don't give the guy with a pkm the medic role- he's a freakin support gunner

medics shouldn't be blazing into combat, sure you need to be on the frontlines to help people but you're also not supposed to die (i've yet to meet an airsoft medic that didn't do this)

snipers should stop going mark wahlerg and actually engage in helping their team-mates when they're in sticky situations

if you see a support gunner wildly firing in the direction of the enemy do not for the love of god sit and whine to him about "you only need 1 shot mate", it's called suppressing fire and the time you spend complaining would be better spent flanking the enemy and rigorously demonstrating your 1 shot 1 kill prowess.

when defending/holding an objective make sure to scan everywhere, not just where the enemy is attacking currently, just because you're not piling into the fray doesn't mean it's not useful (unless there's extenuating circumstances like you know the enemy can only attack from 1 direction)

and finally when you are in a team, don't just walk along in a pile, actually scratch that, do walk along in a closely packed line, will make it easier for me to take you all out with 1 burst.

All good valid points BUT unless it’s a specific gameday (a themed one of some sort) then it’ll never ever happen ! Airsofters at walk on days (me included) are like the red arrows , pre game on there’ll be lots of good tactical ideas being put forward but soon as the marshal shouts “game on !” Its “brake brake brake !” And we all shoot off In every possible direction bar the one pre-planned ! ?‍

We airsofters god bless us one and all have the attention span of amoeba’s and ask any marshal and they’ll tell you controlling us really IS like herding cats ! ???

 

[Adolf Hamster]

ask any marshal and they’ll tell you controlling us really IS like herding cats ! ???

having quite literally tried herding cats i'm inclined to agree

 

[clumpyedge]

ask any marshal and they’ll tell you controlling us really IS like herding cats ! ???

having quite literally tried herding cats i'm inclined to agree

Trust me, sometimes I think id be better off taking up a career in childcare

 

[BigStew]

people actually listening to game briefs. having to repeat my self three times before a game and still having players asking what they are doing mid game. 

 

[Albiscuit]

Trust me, sometimes I think id be better off taking up a career in childcare

Its no better. Although some of ours surprise me!!

 

[Seth_Erebor]

What i would like to see more of or added to Airsoft:

Real Working Toilets (men and women of course) - with paper, doors, flushing loo. I dont mean Buckingham Palace thrones just something clean to do the deed

Better designed retail websites with better filters - EhobbyAsia had it just about right, then they overhauled their website and broke it all, probably LWA, Evike or Zero1 have it closest now

More varied and in stock products - how often do you come across "Out of Stock".

Seating/setting up areas to be covered or sheltered from the elements, and better flooring whilst they are at it

Less Chinese replica/clone tat - for clothing and accessories

More sites but better quality - too many sites are just woodland with a bit of crappy structures, literally i could cut and paste Dragons Lair into Billericay Airsoft and its just the same place, different staff. 

Need more CQB sites near me - its not like frikking LONDON has no buildings, heck we have tons of abandoned factories, warehouses, hospitals etc cant we play in those before they are turned into (UN)affordable luxury flats?

Less hate for HPA - too many people hate on it and those who use it, ok you dont like the line fine, i dont mind it so stop giving me dirties. Not every HPA user (i for one) puts their Polarstar powered gun at 600FPS at 500RPS, there are more responsible HPA users than abusers.

I agree, the experience has to go up!

Someone needs to take ownership of the situation and set a standard.

Unbiased, unsponsored news but who am I kidding.

amen, some simple tips i've seen from sites (in the form of a general rant admittedly)

don't give the guy with a pkm the medic role- he's a freakin support gunner

medics shouldn't be blazing into combat, sure you need to be on the frontlines to help people but you're also not supposed to die (i've yet to meet an airsoft medic that didn't do this)

snipers should stop going mark wahlerg and actually engage in helping their team-mates when they're in sticky situations

if you see a support gunner wildly firing in the direction of the enemy do not for the love of god sit and whine to him about "you only need 1 shot mate", it's called suppressing fire and the time you spend complaining would be better spent flanking the enemy and rigorously demonstrating your 1 shot 1 kill prowess.

when defending/holding an objective make sure to scan everywhere, not just where the enemy is attacking currently, just because you're not piling into the fray doesn't mean it's not useful (unless there's extenuating circumstances like you know the enemy can only attack from 1 direction)

and finally when you are in a team, don't just walk along in a pile, actually scratch that, do walk along in a closely packed line, will make it easier for me to take you all out with 1 burst.

Has anyone done a series of videos on how to play these roles?

With scenarios showing examples of what you need to do in mock gameplay situations.

Videos games teach you in tutorials, the army certainly teaches you, what do airsoft sites do? Hmmmm, please let me know.

There is so much room to grow the industry, the opportunities for diagonal integration are everywhere.

Step back, look at the big picture or you might just get left behind the curve.

You have to be consistently delivering value and always working on the next big thing.

Am I ranting now?

 

[EDcase]

What I'm looking for in Airsoft: (Ideal situation)

A nearby site with good facilities.  (toilets/shop) All not expensive.

Plenty of variation in areas from dense forest/bracken etc to open woodland and buildings.

Players who don't take it too seriously or want to 'win' at all costs.

Lots of experienced marshals and interesting games from longer mission based to short skirmishes.

For future weapon development: (I know these are available but too expensive/experimental for now)

RiFs with bright LED for simulated muzzle flash.

More realistic/louder firing sound.

Accurate rate of fire in auto.

 

[Seth_Erebor]

What I'm looking for in Airsoft: (Ideal situation)

A nearby site with good facilities.  (toilets/shop) All not expensive.

Plenty of variation in areas from dense forest/bracken etc to open woodland and buildings.

Players who don't take it too seriously or want to 'win' at all costs.

Lots of experienced marshals and interesting games from longer mission based to short skirmishes.

For future development: (I know these are available but too expensive/experimental for now)

RiFs with bright LED for simulated muzzle flash.

More realistic/louder firing sound.

Accurate rate of fire in auto.

The Muzzle flash, that would be with a tracer unit style device? I saw something like that, I'll try to find it.

Found it: 

Who remembers the BOSS Unit? Spoke to them... well never mind about all that.

 

[Skara]

I would like:

- More roleplay (pretend to die instead of just hand up)

- Maybe if there was no cheaters - adding a more interesting hit system (if hit in arm, you can't use it, etc)

Well in Italy a few teams developed FTH (literally Fuck The Highlander), a mode that i'd call "milsim taken to the extreme"..

You had to kit up as close as possible to a real unit (regular army, SOFs, doesn't matter), medics had to perform different kind of real first aid manoeuvres (light and easy stuff btw, nothing too complicated) depending on where the "wound" is and a lot of (to me) unnecessary stuff copypasta'd from the real world, like callsigns and actual military tactics..

It didn't really last long, it was expensive and people didn't like waking up at 6 on Sunday just to fire a handful of BBs and lay down crying because immersion, also teams had to travel a long distance to play, since out of the whole country only a handful of teams adopted this style.. But we're Italians, we just can't get things straight

as far as "what I'd like to see in airsoft", well..

Less crap that can go wrong inside guns, I know the standard mechbox is a rather simple device but stripping down some guns can be tedious, especially when reassembling them.

More affordable options for HPA

Less idiots, but that's too much to ask..

no dumb ideas like showing airsoft on tv because it'll only bring more bad reputation to the game.

More urban/cqb fields, my town has 40+ abandoned military installations, built between 1860 and 1943, a few have been refurbished as museums, all the others are left to rot because the Navy and the council/mayor don't seem to understand their potential as airsoft fields/museums/whatever.. People do play in a couple of forts but they're not exactly safe (holes in the floors, no railings, exposed sharp metal objects)..

More casual events rather than competitions (we had them in the past years, for some reason they disappeared, they were fun as hell because there was nothing to win, just a day or two sharing your passion with someone else)

A License to play Airsoft.. Yes, we don't have one, I want it because there's too many idiots causing troubles giving the game a crappy reputation here..